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Damn. I was hoping balmer was going to make the team. Wonder if he's mad about reps... Like the udfa RB from last year (or the year before) that skip out...

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[quote=The Goat;928006]Who?[/quote]

Underachieving former first round DT that you, me, and a few others were kind of hoping for a few years ago.

So in Brown news, I asked someone about the waived-injured rumor. Response "No way. They don't want to pay him anything to sit" best case is he's healthy enough for them to just release him."

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Have there been any updates on Willie Smith.

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[quote=Mechanix544;928001]Dont you mean, "Shirley you can't be serious.."?????[/quote][IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ozr-gLY1fGE/TPfz3sezhMI/AAAAAAAAAow/RKhgQVP67kQ/s1600/leslie%2Bnielsen.jpg[/IMG]
Don't call me Shirley.

:silly:

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I was hoping someone knew something about Willie Smith. Shannahan said that Chris Baker has a huge upside and has lost thirty pounds

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[quote=T.O.Killa;928035]I was hoping someone knew something about Willie Smith. Shannahan said that Chris Baker has a huge upside and has lost thirty pounds[/quote]

apparently he is out there but have a shitty camp so far. He is probably still butthurt from getting run over by Rob Action Jackson

Chris Baker is a solid player, i think he will make the squad and potentially get solid reps in games.

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Thats what I was affraid of, because they have just stopped talking about him all together. He is not mentioned anymore in any speculation of who will replace Brown. If that is the case, thats a shame. I had high hopes for him.

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Kentwan Balmer = major bust. What a waste of talent. With multiple chances the dude still can't get his act together.

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[quote=30gut;927968]Again, this speaks to your evaluation of the receivers vs the OL and your individual football theory/philosophy about the essential components of a passing offense.
(i think you're making a huge leap when you call Garcon a game-breaking WR)
For me first and foremost I want to create an environment for the optimal comfort of my rookie QB.
Imo there is no question that improved RT play and the resulting fewer sacks, fewer QB hits, improved rushing ability-->improved playaction ability, increased QB comfort/poise are all vital to QB play, especially rookie QBs. (who are more dependent upon pass protection for their success because they tend to hold the ball longer.)[/quote]

Hey, don't just take JR's take on the situation, take Mike Shanahan's actions on it. Remember last off-season? Remember how Shanahan brought in a crap ton of WRs to compete? Remember how he even picked up David Anderson during the season? Notice he didn't make as many changes with the OL, yet they played pretty damn good the last 1/2 of the season once they had a chance to jell.

Also, what did Shanahan do immediately this off-season? He went after WR, which is a clear sign that he has thought the WR has been the weak link for a couple years now. Granted, he did bring in some FA OL, but their asking price was probably more than he would be willing to pay.

All in all, I think Shanahan's actions back up JR's notion that the WR spot has been our weak link on the offense. This is not to say it wouldn't hurt to upgrade what we have, but this notion we put a "Hogs" or a all pro-bowl type of line in front of our QB is unrealistic.

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[quote=NC_Skins;928047]All in all, I think Shanahan's actions back up JR's notion that the WR spot has been our weak link on the offense. This is not to say it wouldn't hurt to upgrade what we have[/quote]
Um, the question isn't about whether the FO actions speak to their assessment that WR was a higher priority then RT.
Clearly the outcomes suggest that was their thought process.
The question is were they right? That remains to be seen.

[quote]but this notion we put a "Hogs" or a all pro-bowl type of line in front of our QB is unrealistic[/quote]Um...okay? But is that your notion? Because it surely isn't mine.

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Was told BOTH of Brown's hips are F'd and he needs to be cut. Sad, but he is 31 so I doubt he'll ever be healthy. A lot of cap space we can save too if we cut him.

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[quote=30gut;928051]Um...okay? But is that your notion? Because it surely isn't mine.[/quote]

Most definitely not, and forgive me if I gave off the impression you implied as much. I've just seen all too often how people keep harping on building the lines and they aren't going to be happy unless the team is spending 1st and 2nd rounders on OL, when quality OL can be found in the later rounds in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers did fine with a crappy OL, but he had wonderful WRs/TEs. You don't need 5 pro-bowlers on the OL to have great production from your offense. You do however, need a fantastic QB and WRs to get it done.

Were they right in their assessment? Well, considering they have been in this business all of their life, and the HC has won 2 Super Bowls, you'll excuse me if I defer to his judgement.

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[quote=InsaneBoost;928052]Was told BOTH of Brown's hips are F'd and he needs to be cut. Sad, but he is 31 so I doubt he'll ever be healthy. A lot of cap space we can save too if we cut him.[/quote]

I wholeheartedly agree. Remember what Mike Shanahan said about Jammal Brown earlier in the off season. Brown was going to have to prove that he could stay healthy in order to make the Redskins roster in 2012. When we read reports around two months ago that Brown was taking Yoga courses, was attaining his flexibility, strengthening his bad hip, and was feeling great, we all thought that he had finally put his injury behind him. We were wrong.

After spending the last two seasons on IR, Brown needs to do something and he hasn't shown that he's the equivalent of the 3rd round pick that Bruce Allen traded to the Saints to get him.

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i knew this was gonna happen.

we missed veteran OL signings like Jeff Otah, Jeff Saturday, Carl Nicks.
that cap penalty KILLED US.

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They should go ahead and cut Brown and give Polumbus or Smith a chance to win the RT position. I still think Smith can surprise, let's give him a chance when the games begin. If neither pans out, then when the 53 man roster cuts occur someone will be available from another team. I'm not worried.