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Anyone still interested in Claiborne?

[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/redskins-talk/lsus-claiborne-amazing-wonderlic-score-a?blockID=682260&feedID=6355"]LSU's Claiborne amazing Wonderlic score (and not in the good way)[/URL]

Sorry for those who can't read it....

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Seemingly every year during the lead up to the NFL Draft, a train wreck of a story pops up about a notable prospect posting a train wreck of a Wonderlic test score. This year is no exception.
[URL="javascript:void(window.open('http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/03/claiborne-gives-birth-to-a-four-on-the-wonderlic/'));"][COLOR=#0000ff]Pro Football Talk[/COLOR][/URL] posted some details about the carnage resulting from the test taken by LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne, a likely top 10 pick and at one point in the mix for the Redskins at six before the trade with the Rams...[INDENT]"The NFL has kept the Wonderlic results under tighter wraps than usual this year. Or maybe the media has had enough other things to keep itself occupied.
"Regardless, the first eye-opening score has leaked from the 2012 edition of the 50-question Wonderlic test. Per multiple league sources, LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne scored a four.
"Yes. A four. Out of 50."
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He scored a 4. Yes apparently he scored a four.

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[quote=SmootSmack;907090]Are they converting him to OL?[/quote]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, your funny. Whooooo. Oh my god, my stomach is killing me.

No not converting to OL. Maybe they think he might be around late in the draft in order for them to pick him up. AAAAAHHHHH didn't think of that did you. Glad I could point that out for you. :tongue

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Is this for real?

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[QUOTE=SBXVII;907091]Anyone still interested in Claiborne?



LSU's Claiborne amazing Wonderlic score (and not in the good way)



Sorry for those who can't read it....







He scored a 4. Yes apparently he scored a four.[/QUOTE]



Yes, because the wonderlic doesn't mean shit.

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[quote=SmootSmack;907093]Is this for real?[/quote]

:laughing2

laugh to keep from crying

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907095]Yes, because the wonderlic doesn't mean shit.[/quote]

Yup, I remember Vince Young scored a 6 and retook it and got a 16 and STILL got taken what 3rd overrall?

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[quote=gangstalicious;907098]Yup, I remember Vince Young scored a 6 and retook it and got a 16 and STILL got taken what 3rd overrall?[/quote]

and it's worked out sooo well for him. marino scored a 16 and ended up in the HoF while alex smith got a 49 i think and still kinda sucks, so as far as proving football merits, i'd say it's tangential at best.

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So anyway back to the OL, the 3rd round is definitely a nice spot to be looking for a RT to develop.

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[quote=Mattyk;907136]So anyway back to the OL, the 3rd round is definitely a nice spot to be looking for a RT to develop.[/quote]Knowing we don't have the second round pick makes me think we could really use about 6 different players at that third round pick.

Maybe the NFL will just let us have them all?

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So many vet linemen released that we could find a couple good fits if we really wanted to go the FA route for O line needs. I am not totally down on our line per say, but I don't think that it is all that solid. Trent gets nicked up a lot, and is going to get worse as time goes on. It is simple aging that will hurt him, like Tre Johnson, etc. Linemen really don't last all that long anymore since they are so enormous and their bodies really aren't geared for that or that type of abuse.

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[quote=GTripp0012;907139]Knowing we don't have the second round pick makes me think we could really use about 6 different players at that third round pick.

Maybe the NFL will just let us have them all?[/quote]

That lost second round pick means simply our efforts at rebuilding with the draft apart from RG III is going to be limited.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;907140]So many vet linemen released that we could find a couple good fits if we really wanted to go the FA route for O line needs. I am not totally down on our line per say, but I don't think that it is all that solid. Trent gets nicked up a lot, and is going to get worse as time goes on. It is simple aging that will hurt him, like Tre Johnson, etc. Linemen really don't last all that long anymore since they are so enormous and their bodies really aren't geared for that or that type of abuse.[/quote]

you do realize TW is 23 right

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;907141]That lost second round pick means simply our efforts at rebuilding with the draft apart from RG III is going to be limited.[/QUOTE]



Now that is just stupid. One 2nd round pick isn't gonna make or break anything.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;907145]Now that is just stupid. One 2nd round pick isn't gonna make or break anything.[/quote]It means a lot for the 2012 season. I mean, whose the worst player we've taken in the second round in recent times? Jacobs? Thomas? Trading the pick is like adding that guy to the current mix because you know you can't get anything on it.

In the grand scheme of things, when we're talking about RG3 in 2016 or 2017 and how good he'll be, I don't think it matters very much. But for the Shanahan era its a big deal.

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2nd Round Picks:
1999: Jon Jansen
2001: Fred Smoot
2002: Ladell Betts
2003: Taylor Jacobs
2006: Rocky McIntosh
2008: Fred Davis, Malcolm Kelly, Devin Thomas
2011: Jarvis Jenkins

I would trade that entire list for an elite QB. On that list, who was a major contributor in years one and two? Davis? Jansen? Smoot?

Yes, the loss of the 2nd rounder hinders us. Okay. It's the old, you don't make an omellete without breaking some eggs.

In the same vein as the NFL letting us pick 6 guys with our 3rd rounder - Maybe we should have just asked them to give us a franchise QB of our choosing at no cost and then we would still have the 2nd round pick.

You take the good with the bad. If RGIII turns out to be a phenom, missing on getting a Jansen or a Davis will be forgotten. If he struggles as a rookie, the 2nd round player probably wasn't going to equate to more wins anyway. And, God forbid, RGIII is a bust - well, we are just up the sh**iest creek in the world without a paddle or a canoe.