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[quote=Schneed10;1189181]Agree with trading back, a move to trade down and recoup a pick to help with the loss of Fuller would be wise. Fitzpatrick, Smith, and Payne are the three who are most appealing for me, personally, but there are others for sure. Ultimately I'm a fan of having more swings of the bat. Moving down to acquire more assets is a good move, if there's a willing trade partner.[/quote]

I'm all for trading down too.
Mainly because there aren't many difference makers at positions of need for us available in FA.
So we'll to find some of them in the draft.

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IMO, there is no way to assess if we should trade back or not until we see if there is a difference-maker available at #13. Remember how lucky we got in last year's draft when Jonathan Allen fell to us.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1189186]IMO, there is no way to assess if we should trade back or not until we see if there is a difference-maker available at #13. Remember how lucky we got in last year's draft when Jonathan Allen fell to us.[/quote]

Yeah almost all trade downs occur when you're on the clock. I think that's what we all mean when we say look to trade down.

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[quote=Schneed10;1189192]Yeah almost all trade downs occur when you're on the clock. I think that's what we all mean when we say look to trade down.[/quote]

To be completely honest my judgement may be tainted by the fact I have very little knowledge of college football talent.
So, yeah, a lot can happen between now and the moment we're on the clock.

But the way I see our needs (#1WR, RB, LG, DT/NT, CB - btw what are we waiting for to sign Zach Brown?), and the lack of exciting opportunities in FA, I think 3 or 4 picks in the first 3 rounds could be better than just 2 as it stands now...

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Vita Vea gets more attractive at 13 almost daily, I trust Mayock, a Dancing Bear (freak).

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917566/article/mike-mayock-six-qbs-in-play-for-first-round-of-2018-nfl-draft]Mike Mayock: Six QBs in play for first round of 2018 NFL Draft - NFL.com[/url]

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What is the Skins sign Poe?

Do they still draft a NT?

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[quote=Dan73;1189212]What is the Skins sign Poe?

Do they still draft a NT?

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No, I wouldn't think so. Too mamy holes to sign someone and draft someone at 13 on the defensive line. Although, you can never have too much beef, so I actually wouldn't be opposed to double dipping.

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“As far as interior offensive line class, the top end of it’s really good," Mayock said in a conference call on Monday.

Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson is a likely top-10 pick and one of the safest players in the draft, and after Nelson, Mayock said there are seven interior linemen who project solidly to go in the top three rounds.
The top spot on our list is a no-brainer. Nelson is the best lineman in the draft, arguably the top lineman in the country, and the only offensive lineman in my Top 10 list (third on that list). I have raved about him throughout the season, and he should be a top-10 pick in the 2018 draft, if not a top-5. He plays with elite power, technique, and awareness. He has agility and balance in pass protection, and all the “nasty” you could ask for.
This would solidify our o-line and solve our power running game woes.
With all of the reaching that happen every year for qb's and that Nelson is a guard, this guy could be there at 13. At 6' 5" and 345 pounds he is described as mean.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;1189214]“As far as interior offensive line class, the top end of it’s really good," Mayock said in a conference call on Monday.

Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson is a likely top-10 pick and one of the safest players in the draft, and after Nelson, Mayock said there are seven interior linemen who project solidly to go in the top three rounds.
The top spot on our list is a no-brainer. Nelson is the best lineman in the draft, arguably the top lineman in the country, and the only offensive lineman in my Top 10 list (third on that list). I have raved about him throughout the season, and he should be a top-10 pick in the 2018 draft, if not a top-5. He plays with elite power, technique, and awareness. He has agility and balance in pass protection, and all the “nasty” you could ask for.
This would solidify our o-line and solve our power running game woes.
With all of the reaching that happen every year for qb's and that Nelson is a guard, this guy could be there at 13. At 6' 5" and 345 pounds he is described as mean.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with all of this. I am very hyped about Vita Vea, but if Nelson is there, I think they have to take him. So many reasons why:

1. Immediate starter at one of very few clear starter holes on the roster. It's a big roster need and a starting role that could and would be vastly improved.

2. He would be an every down player so he would have the biggest impact on this team year 1 day 1. (Vea would likely rotate and play less reps overall for example)

3. Our running game would definitely improve, especially on short yardage plays, dude knows how to blow a hole into a wall of defenders.

4. It's a long-term lock down of a position. It's generally not hard to afford to keep you're talent on the line long term, especially guard.

5. He's a for sure starter, probably pro bowler early, and is a sure thing long term. WRs, RBs, DBs, etc have a higher bust/career altering injury probability

6. Equivalent talent in FA is very freaking expensive and frankly there's probably one.

7. There are some good guards to be had in the first few rounds, but he's probably one of two impact guards in the draft. Others might be solid to very good starters, but there's only a few guards in the league who's elite abilities are profoundly impactful in making plays, he has that kind of talent.

8. We would arguably have the best LT in the league, a top 5 or so RT, best 1 or 2 RG in the league, and potentially a top 5 LG. Not to mention a very good young C. LG has been the achilles heel of this unit for years, he would round out the true Hogs 2.0


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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189211]Vita Vea gets more attractive at 13 almost daily, I trust Mayock, a Dancing Bear (freak).

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000917566/article/mike-mayock-six-qbs-in-play-for-first-round-of-2018-nfl-draft]Mike Mayock: Six QBs in play for first round of 2018 NFL Draft - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

I think the fear on him was being type cast as a 2 down player.

Cooley broke him down on the show the other day and really hyped him up compared to his initial observation and statement pre-breakdown.

He doesn't have the moves that Payne has, but essentially should be able to take a center or guard and put them in the QBs lap. Freakish size and strength. Next to Allen and Ionnidas, he would be unbelievable.

Caveat is, I think Payne would be a solid pick as well and definitely has more twitch.

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Guice

4.49 40! That is the guy I want at 13, F it.

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Guice, that was a good one!! Deep Blue Sea, they ate me, a shark fucking ate me!! Samuel Jackson Beer.

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Rashaad Penny ran 4.47, Redskins meet with him yesterday. Could see him being a realistic pick for us in the 4th if we miss out on the early round guys.

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[quote=WillH;1189547]Rashaad Penny ran 4.47, Redskins meet with him yesterday. Could see him being a realistic pick for us in the 4th if we miss out on the early round guys.

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That's my guy! I'd take him with the 2nd. Can't miss out on stud RB once again.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1189550]That's my guy! I'd take him with the 2nd. Can't miss out on stud RB once again.[/quote]

Next Faulk?