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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/27102/lockout-will-hurt-the-redskins]Lockout will hurt the Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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Damn Republicans!!!!

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[quote=jtrob_1;804866]Damn Republicans!!!![/quote]

Um...what?

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[quote=jtrob_1;804866]Damn Republicans!!!![/quote]

I don't follow my man.

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[quote=jtrob_1;804866]Damn Republicans!!!![/quote]

[quote=Ruhskins;804869]Um...what?[/quote]


He is inferring that Republicans favor big business, ergo, would support the NFL's wishes of the stay of the lockout.

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[quote=SkinzWin;804871]He is inferring that Republicans favor big business, ergo, would support the NFL's wishes of the stay of the lockout.[/quote]

^^ This.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=6599574]NFL, Dallas Cowboys want Super Bowl seat suit tossed - ESPN Dallas[/url]


NFL again showing how stupid and arrogant they are, not to mention they don't give two shits about the fans. First they raise prices on jerseys during a lock out, now this. Here you go goes, take this shit sandwich and enjoy it. I"m going to keep feeding it to you because I know you'll keep eating it.



[quote]According to the motion, the NFL and the Cowboys didn't know until just before the game that the temporary seats would be inadequate and worked into the afternoon that day to deal with the issue.[/quote]

LOL. Do they think people are really that stupid? We've seen the emails from the city inspectors telling them they were unsafe. What bunch of bafoons.

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&page=wojciechowski/110527&sportCat=nfl]Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross made comments about the NFL lockout this week that don't stand up to real-world scrutiny. - ESPN[/url]


Holy crap some of these owners are idiotic. I suppose the public will believe anything considering how the rest of our nation is heading.


[quote]Someone needs to remind Ross that this is an owner-orchestrated-and-imposed lockout. NFL players didn't wake up one day and decide not to go to work. The owners decided it for them.

And enough already with, "It's about having a system that works." No, it's about having a system that works for the owners. At the very least, Ross could have been honest about that.

Just because Ross says the owners aren't greedy doesn't mean it's true. It just means that Ross thinks it's true. Have him Google "personal seat licenses" & "taxpayers and new stadiums" & "NFL preseason ticket prices" & "Colts leave Baltimore for Indianapolis," then get back to me.

My favorite is the bit about the players looking to see how much they can really get. Was Ross not in owners school the day the teacher told them the players were happy with the previous collective bargaining agreement? That it was the owners who opted out of the CBA, not the players?

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Wojciechowski is bringing the pain in this article.


[quote]Yes, NFL players make a lot of money. But they'll never make as much as NFL owners. And a player's career can end in a nanosecond. So tell me again how many concussion syndrome tests an owner goes through? Or how often he has to slide slowly, step by step down a staircase, as running back Jerome Bettis did the morning after games because his knees and legs were too battered to walk?

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Ross is quickly climbing the ranks of the worst owners in the league.

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What would be best is for folks like Ross and Brees to STFU. Get the negotiating teams from both sides out of the courtroom and to the negotiating table and work this out.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;804890]What would be best is for folks like Ross and Brees to STFU. Get the negotiating teams from both sides out of the courtroom and over the negotiating table and work this out.[/quote]

Maybe one of my favorite vintage war related images ever....
And yet, it is essentially universal in its usage.

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[quote=SkinzWin;804871]He is inferring that Republicans favor big business, ergo, would support the NFL's wishes of the stay of the lockout.[/quote]

Devil's advocate: Seeing as though democrats favor the rights of unions and collective bargaining, wouldn't they be against the players decertifying and basically walking away from the negotiating table: essentially minimizing the usefullness of CBA's? It could be argued that democrats would rule against the players as well in order to protect the collective bargaining rights for unions (those who actually need it like teachers, tradesman, coal miners, etc.)

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[quote=Son Of Man;804944]Devil's advocate: Seeing as though democrats favor the rights of unions and collective bargaining, wouldn't they be against the players decertifying and basically walking away from the negotiating table: essentially minimizing the usefullness of CBA's? It could be argued that democrats would rule against the players as well in order to protect the collective bargaining rights for unions (those who actually need it like teachers, tradesman, coal miners, etc.)[/quote]

I don't think most would consider an NFL union in the same light as a union in a "real workforce industry". Something the country must have in order to survive. NFL is entertainment. To Democrats it is not a serious union. To Republicans it is a large part of the big corporate machine that pads many peoples' pockets and in the eyes of many, drives this country's economy. That is all strictly IMO.

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[quote=Son Of Man;804944]Devil's advocate: Seeing as though democrats favor the rights of unions and collective bargaining, wouldn't they be against the players decertifying and basically walking away from the negotiating table: essentially minimizing the usefullness of CBA's? It could be argued that democrats would rule against the players as well in order to protect the collective bargaining rights for unions (those who actually need it like teachers, tradesman, coal miners, etc.)[/quote]

No,this has nothing to do with Dem or Rep....this has to do with owners and greed.

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[quote=Giantone;805115]No,this has nothing to do with Dem or Rep....this has to do with owners and greed.[/quote]
The salary cap has risen in 15 years from 34M to 123M. I guess, I see both sides as having greed as a part of the factor.