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[quote=skinsfan69;1164091]I agree in that it would be nice for KC to say..." Hey, this is where I want to be, I want to retire a Redskin and hopefully bring more SB's to DC." Getting a little tired of him saying he "wants to play where I'm wanted." Um you just went from 600k to 20 million. Do you feel unwanted making 20 million????? I get that he's had to put up with some BS but it's his job now. And the FO has made this an offensive team. IDK.. just getting tired of it on both sides. They need to get a long term deal done... now.[/quote]

This. Exactly.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1164110]He wants to get big time guaranteed mullah and security to go with it. I think the Skins are wavering for the same reason as last time. Yeah Kirk has improved stat wise, but he still folds under pressure against any team with a decent pass rush. How can you get to the Big Show if you can't hang with the big boys? I know most of us in here are definitely for getting a deal done quickly, but I don't think that is going to happen, as I think there might be some hesitation in the FO that he is actually worth what he probably will be asking for. Face it, he didn't finish the year out on a high note like last season, and he looked average at best. Blame the D for the losses all you want, but he got stymied by the Panthers, and didn't look very good against the Cardinals either. Don't be too surprised if we draft a QB. I am not really thinking they will, but they just might pull a "Doctson" on us.[/quote]

Against Minnesota, New York in the first game, Philadelphia twice, and Baltimore he was good. All those teams have good pass rushes/defenses

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I believe when the contract pressure kicked in, that is when he struggled. I don't think it was game related. Makes me think giving him a long term contract is the only and best way to go.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1164118]I believe when the contract pressure kicked in, that is when he struggled. I don't think it was game related. Makes me think giving him a long term contract is the only and best way to go.[/quote]

Well if you can't handle "contract" pressure he isn't going to handle "playoff" pressure. Point is moot anyways we need to sign the guy.

What overshadows any doubts you have about him or the $$$ to get him is there is literally no one else that is available that is better then him now or in the near future.

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[quote=mredskins;1164120]Well if you can't handle "contract" pressure he isn't going to handle "playoff" pressure. Point is moot anyways we need to sign the guy.

What overshadows any doubts you have about him or the $$$ to get him is there is literally no one else that is available that is better then him now or in the near future.[/quote]

I actually think he handles playoff type pressure - it's football - see the dallas game, or cleveland game in 2012.

When contract talks get inside your head it can take your focus off your work. That's all I mean.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1164123]I actually think he handles playoff type pressure - it's football - see the dallas game, or cleveland game in 2012.

When contract talks get inside your head it can take your focus off your work. That's all I mean.[/quote]

If i was building a con and pro list of him handling extreme pressure would be on the con side. I still believe the pro's outweigh the con's when evaluating him.

I guess the 2 body of works that stand out for me when thinking of him and pressure are the NYG game and the CAR. If GB game KC should up to one of those games we at least have had one more game this season.

Also you can take some pressure off him with getting the defense to at least middle of the pack and keeping good weapons on offense around KC. I think a good RB would also go a long way in helping KC.

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[quote=FlyerSkin;1164110]He wants to get big time guaranteed mullah and security to go with it. I think the Skins are wavering for the same reason as last time. Yeah Kirk has improved stat wise, but he still folds under pressure against any team with a decent pass rush. How can you get to the Big Show if you can't hang with the big boys? I know most of us in here are definitely for getting a deal done quickly, but I don't think that is going to happen, as I think there might be some hesitation in the FO that he is actually worth what he probably will be asking for. Face it, he didn't finish the year out on a high note like last season, and he looked average at best. Blame the D for the losses all you want, but he got stymied by the Panthers, and didn't look very good against the Cardinals either. Don't be too surprised if we draft a QB. I am not really thinking they will, but they just might pull a "Doctson" on us.[/quote]


I'm not the language police, but:

Mullah = Muslim Cleric
Moola = Money

Too big a difference to ignore.

You're welcome.

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Check this out.. [url]https://twitter.com/ryalltopdog630/status/825063263557787648[/url]


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[quote=Brody81;1164134]Check this out.. [URL]https://twitter.com/ryalltopdog630/status/825063263557787648[/URL]


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That's some good info there. Sounds like another argument in Kirk's favor. Thanks for sharing.

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[url=http://www.espn980.com/2017/01/27/the-truth-about-kirk-cousins-2016-season/]The Truth About Kirk Cousins’ 2016 Season | ESPN 980[/url]

Good Link.

Kirk did face the toughest defenses overall compared to any OTHER QB in the NFL this year.

He did that and still performed BETTER this year then he did last year.

Pay the Man. His celing is unknown and he continues to improve. You have to sign this rising star at this point.

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[QUOTE=Bucket;1164138][url=http://www.espn980.com/2017/01/27/the-truth-about-kirk-cousins-2016-season/]The Truth About Kirk Cousins’ 2016 Season | ESPN 980[/url]

Good Link.

Kirk did face the toughest defenses overall compared to any OTHER QB in the NFL this year.

He did that and still performed BETTER this year then he did last year.

Pay the Man. His celing is unknown and he continues to improve. You have to sign this rising star at this point.[/QUOTE]
He's the next brees, I know I've beat a dead horse with that comparison but it's true. He'll throw some picks like drew does but 80% of the time he'll have 3 tds to 1 int.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1164140]He's the next brees, I know I've beat a dead horse with that comparison but it's true. He'll throw some picks like drew does but 80% of the time he'll have 3 tds to 1 int.[/QUOTE]
Hummmm....actually that is a very apt comparison!

I completely agree with you! [emoji106]

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[quote=kct1975;1164144]Hummmm....actually that is a very apt comparison!

I completely agree with you! [emoji106][/quote]

Yes, good post. Towards the end of the year it was more like 2 TD's to 1 INT, but even if he did that every game, we would still be okay if we only had an average defense. The waiting over the Kirk situation is awful! Does anyone know exactly when we should expect to hear something regarding contract talks? Does it start exactly after the super bowl?

Update: This article from ESPN says that we have been free to negotiate with him since the minute the season ended. Maybe the fact that they haven't might not be that good of a sign??

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29958/kirk-cousins-has-millions-of-reasons-not-to-fear-the-tag-again]Kirk Cousins has millions of reasons not to fear franchise tag again - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1164153]Yes, good post. Towards the end of the year it was more like 2 TD's to 1 INT, but even if he did that every game, we would still be okay if we only had an average defense. The waiting over the Kirk situation is awful! Does anyone know exactly when we should expect to hear something regarding contract talks? Does it start exactly after the super bowl?

Update: This article from ESPN says that we have been free to negotiate with him since the minute the season ended. Maybe the fact that they haven't might not be that good of a sign??

[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/29958/kirk-cousins-has-millions-of-reasons-not-to-fear-the-tag-again]Kirk Cousins has millions of reasons not to fear franchise tag again - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url][/quote]

Hang in there, ShakySnake! They probably have already agreed on a deal but they're just messin' with us until after the Super Bowl.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1164129][B]I'm not the language police[/B], but:

Mullah = Muslim Cleric
Moola = Money

Too big a difference to ignore.

You're welcome.[/quote]

Would you please take the job? Heaven knows we need one.