Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=Mechanix544;800585]If Fat Al had problems with Shannys little fitness test, how do you think he is going to fare with a fitness test after an offseason of no mandatory or voluntary workouts, playing less than 20% of defensive snaps the prior year, and in the climate and altitude in Denver. His Fat Ass would be ****in toast. I doubt the Broncos do this, no matter how good the relatioship is between Elway and Shanny.[/quote]

Why should we care about this, it is just an opportunity to unload the guy. The Broncos are in need of a 4-3 DT and he's available. As it's been said, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

As Redskins fans, all should we care is an opportunity to get something in return for this guy, but most importantly, to get him off our team.

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On second thought, the fact that MS is talking beck up so much means that we have another plan in the works.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=sportscurmudgeon;800576]But remember that in the final two games The Shanahans were evaluating Beck as to the way he handled the role of being the #2 QB - - meaning the way he stood on the sideline with his helmet close by instead of standing on the sideline with his helmet in the equipment manager's cart.

Who knows, he may have been outstanding in that role and shown that he can take the next step up the ladder.


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I know your kidding to some extent but in a way I will agree with that. He had the #2 role at the end which could have given him different responsibilities during the week for the coaches to evaluate.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=NC_Skins;800566]I don't quite agree with this. Just because we were out of it, doesn't mean Beck would have gotten a start. Rex knew the system much better compared to Beck so Shanny isn't going to start a guy he doesn't feel is ready to run the system. Beck having a year under his belt to learn the system from the sideline may in fact be ready to challenge Rex for the starting QB position. That said, I don't think they are just going to "hand the keys" to him without him winning the position over in camp. I do believe they'll try to bring in either Hasslebeck or Young to compete as well.[/quote]

I was not trying to imply that Beck was not in their plans at all. Obviously they like him somewhat if he is still on their roster. I just don't believe he is "plan A" for opening day starter like the TV guys were specualting during the draft. I would imagine that every QB that ends up on their roster will have a chance to compete for the job.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfan69;800488]I really hope this isn't true. Orton is just another journeymen and isn't any better than Grossman. Plus why would Denver move Orton? Are they going to go with Tebow when they already named Orton the starter?[/quote]

There does not appear to be a firm commitment on either player. Sounds more like an open competition.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6456283]Tim Tebow confident, says John Elway, Denver Broncos 'believe in me' - ESPN[/url]

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Orton is an upgrade over Rex folks, lets be real here. He's had a pretty good 2 years in Denver

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[quote=Mattyk;800459]Would love to make that deal[/quote]

It's clear at least from this article Denver is definitely in the market for a 4-3 defensive lineman with an eye towards free agency. Haynesworth is not a free agent but we do know they're looking, how far they would be willing to go in his pursuit is a good question.

[url=http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_17971898]Paige: Broncos must get defensive tackle in free agency - The Denver Post[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;800459]Would love to make that deal[/quote]

So would I, Orton is better than any QB we've had in a few years and get AH OUT!!!!!

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rex played well to end the season. he threw for over 300 yards in 2 of his 3 starts, had more touchdowns than interceptions, and had over an 80 qb rating. if he or beck puts up numbers like that over the length of a season, we will be fine at QB. not spectacular, but passable for this season. these 2 qbs seem to fit the system which is the most important thing. im ok with this right now. im happy with how we drafted and we should be stronger than last year even with our current qb situation.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;800646]So would I, Orton is better than any QB we've had in a few years and get AH OUT!!!!![/quote]

Orton could be available unless it is their intention to ultimately keep both he and Tebow. Elway hints Tebow could be the man.

[url=http://www.yardbarker.com/sites/site/8017]Broncos Central: Latest Stories[/url]

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I would rahter trade him for Tebow and not Orton

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19 minutes in and we finally get our first Tebow question from Ken, an original ticket holder.

Fox, answering Ken's question about if #15 could be traded, said it hasn't been "a remote possibility."
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[quote=skinsfaninok;800634]Orton is an upgrade over Rex folks, lets be real here. He's had a pretty good 2 years in Denver[/quote]

I don't know. The New England offense makes me worry about other QB's when they get outside that system. See Matt Cassel during his first year away from New England, as well as Brady Quinn and Jimmy Clausen.

Besides Orton had Lloyd, the best receiver ever :D

Either way I will take Year 3 Grossman over Year 1 Orton.

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[quote=Ruhskins;800489]All signs point to Tebow in Denver. And Denver has a big need at DT for their 4-3 defense. They prob should've taken Dareus, but I guess they went for the better player in Von Miller.[/quote]

Not buying it til I see it. There is no way that John Elway is sold on the guy.

Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;800634]Orton is an upgrade over Rex folks, lets be real here. He's had a pretty good 2 years in Denver[/quote]

He's been ok but the guy is just an average NFL QB. If it's an upgrade it's a very small one. I'd want a draft pick for Al, not a QB that isn't going to make the team better.