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[QUOTE=dan757;421141]are you crazy comparing b loyd to CJ thats like comparing Tom Brady to Brad Johnson[/QUOTE]

I didn't compare Brandon Lloyd to Chad Johnson. I simply said free agent WRs are not a sure-thing.

As for Chad, I said in a previous post that he likely has several years of Pro Bowl caliber play. I would never intentionally imply that he is anything like Brandon Lloyd.

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[quote=bigm29;421198]you guys realize the bengals want either 1st and 3rd or 2 2nds. no way im willing to give that up for the new TO[/quote]

The guy is 30 years old. How many more years is he going to play at the level he's play at now? 1-2 more years? No way am I giving up a any high draft picks for this guy. I prey to god we don't make this move.

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[quote=skinsfan69;421239]The guy is 30 years old. How many more years is he going to play at the level he's play at now? 1-2 more years? Now way am I giving up a any high draft picks for this guy. I prey to god we don't make this move.[/quote]

TO is 34 and still playing great.

Chad is 30, there's no reason to think he can't keep this up for another 4-5 years.

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[quote=Mattyk72;421240]TO is 34 and still playing great.

Chad is 30, there's no reason to think he can't keep this up for another 4-5 years.[/quote]

I don't know if I'd put CJ on TO's level. He close though. But to me the risk outweighs the reward. It's going to take a #1 pick and a ton of cash. To me WR's can be found in the draft, kind of like how GB did it. I'd MUCH rather get some O-line help or a pass rushing DE. In the end the games are always won and lost in the trenches and the NYG proved that in the SB by whipping the Pats o-line.

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[quote=skinsfan69;421265]I don't know if I'd put CJ on TO's level. He close though. But to me the risk outweighs the reward. It's going to take a #1 pick and a ton of cash. To me WR's can be found in the draft, kind of like how GB did it. I'd MUCH rather get some O-line help or a pass rushing DE. In the end the games are always won and lost in the trenches and the NYG proved that in the SB by whipping the Pats o-line.[/quote]

I wasn't try to compare the two, just saying that it's not uncommon for WRs to play well into their mid 30s.

I'm not hot on the idea of dealing for him either.

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[quote=skinsfan69;421265]I don't know if I'd put CJ on TO's level. He close though. But to me the risk outweighs the reward. It's going to take a #1 pick and a ton of cash. [b]To me WR's can be found in the draft,[/b] kind of like how GB did it. I'd MUCH rather get some O-line help or a pass rushing DE. In the end the games are always won and lost in the trenches and the NYG proved that in the SB by whipping the Pats o-line.[/quote]

And from what I have read, the draft is supposed to be pretty thick at WR this year.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;421288]And from what I have read, the draft is supposed to be pretty thick at WR this year.[/quote]


no it isnt

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I wonder at what price we can get him?If we can get him without trading every pick we have(wich snyder loves to do)then Yes let's get him.

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[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;421288]And from what I have read, the draft is supposed to be pretty thick at WR this year.[/QUOTE]

Devin Thomas could fall to the Skins in the second round.

I'd be reluctant to trade a first round pick straight up for Chad Johnson but I would definitely hear what the Bengals have to say, and engage in discussions with them.

You have to use your draft picks to build the best possible team. But that does not always mean you use the picks to select players out of college. Sometimes it means using those picks as leverage to acquire proven NFL players.

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there aren't a lot of great wideouts in the draft, it seems. running backs are pretty good, and some good defenders and linemen, but if linas sweed is the #1 guy, its pretty bleak. He's decent and was a huge target, but he strikes me as a mike williams kind of receiver.

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[quote=canthetuna;421299]there aren't a lot of great wideouts in the draft, it seems. running backs are pretty good, and some good defenders and linemen, but if linas sweed is the #1 guy, its pretty bleak. He's decent and was a huge target, but he strikes me as a mike williams kind of receiver.[/quote]

Accept Sweed can't stay healthy.

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[quote=SmootSmack;421297]Devin Thomas could fall to the Skins in the second round.

I'd be reluctant to trade a first round pick straight up for Chad Johnson but I would definitely hear what the Bengals have to say, and engage in discussions with them.

You have to use your draft picks to build the best possible team. But that does not always mean you use the picks to select players out of college. Sometimes it means using those picks as leverage to acquire proven NFL players.[/quote]

I saw quite a bit of this guy because it seems I was always betting for or against Mich. State. He was number 5 right? One thing that stood out was how explosive that guy was. I remember him just going off on Penn State. Actually I remember him going off on quite a few people. Plus he is a real built guy. I like that pick. A lot!!!!!! Much better value than chasing over priced FA's.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;421193]I disagree if you look at our last ten year history based on that lonely we aren't a winning franchise & CJ knows that. He likes our potential as a team plus it was mentioned he was interested in us & Miami trust me he wants to win but he wouldn't pitch that big of a fit if we lost games.[/quote]

Of course he likes our potential as a team (if he is actually considering coming here) but that's just my point. If the team's potential does not live up to his expectations, he will be dissapointed, and pitch a fit; he'll do the same thing he's doing in Cincy, cry like a baby until he gets his way and we trade him or release him. Again, we can avoid that mess simply by winning, but why take that chance? Based on his behavior, there is no reason to believe he wouldn't resort to acting like a prima donna cry baby if we start to lose.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;421309]I saw quite a bit of this guy because it seems I was always betting for or against Mich. State. He was number 5 right? One thing that stood out was how explosive that guy was. I remember him just going off on Penn State. Actually I remember him going off on quite a few people. Plus he is a real built guy. I like that pick. A lot!!!!!! Much better value than chasing over priced FA's.[/QUOTE]

yup #5. I think he could be a really good addition for the team. But it's possible Lawrence Jackson (who from what I've seen lately is projected around the 40-50th overall pick) could slip to the Redskins in the second round and then maybe we could target Adarius Bowman in the 3rd round.