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[quote=Chico23231;1196246][URL]http://thehill.com/homenews/media/394892-newspaper-reporter-resigns-after-wrongly-claiming-maryland-shooter-wore-maga[/URL]
more fake news, another "journalist" losing their job. trying to make the narrative they want[/quote] This is a problem Chico, this isn't fake news. But you want to tell us what we're going to say before we say it. How about "reporter lies, reporter loses job." Keeps the politics out of it, and reports the facts. I guarantee if you posted it that way G1 and Punch wouldn't have a problem with it. As it is now you just call it fake news because you want to incite a reaction. |
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[quote=mooby;1196255]This is a problem Chico, this isn't fake news. But you want to tell us what we're going to say before we say it.
How about "reporter lies, reporter loses job." Keeps the politics out of it, and reports the facts. I guarantee if you posted it that way G1 and Punch wouldn't have a problem with it. As it is now you just call it fake news because you want to incite a reaction.[/quote] The problem is he reported fake news to create a false narrative...or the narrative he wanted. Then he resign because he guessed wrong. Media is dividing the nation for profit and to smear a president who they politically don’t agree with. When you do your job based on these premises then your ethically corrupt. |
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[quote=Chico23231;1196260]The problem is he reported fake news to create a false narrative...or the narrative he wanted. Then he resign because he guessed wrong.
Media is dividing the nation for profit and to smear a president who they politically don’t agree with. When you do your job based on these premises then your ethically corrupt.[/quote] ..........have ya looked at your president lately???:stop: |
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[quote=Chico23231;1196260]The problem is he reported fake news to create a false narrative...or the narrative he wanted. Then he resign because he guessed wrong.
Media is dividing the nation for profit and to smear a president who they politically don’t agree with. When you do your job based on these premises then your ethically corrupt.[/quote] The problem is you juxtaposed a corrupt individual to represent an entire industry as a whole. I agree most major news agencies have agendas nowadays. But you're lying to yourself if you think there aren't 10 reporters who are pissed off at this hack because their credibility is going to take a hit for working in the same industry as him. I got one more question for you. When you say "Media is dividing the nation for profit and to smear a president who they politically don't agree with" do you include Fox News in that group? |
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[QUOTE=mooby;1196270]The problem is you juxtaposed a corrupt individual to represent an entire industry as a whole. I agree most major news agencies have agendas nowadays. But you're lying to yourself if you think there aren't 10 reporters who are pissed off at this hack because their credibility is going to take a hit for working in the same industry as him.
I got one more question for you. When you say "Media is dividing the nation for profit and to smear a president who they politically don't agree with" do you include Fox News in that group?[/QUOTE]I do include foxnews in it. |
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[quote=mooby;1196270]The problem is you juxtaposed a corrupt individual to represent an entire industry as a whole. I agree most major news agencies have agendas nowadays. But you're lying to yourself if you think there aren't 10 reporters who are pissed off at this hack because their credibility is going to take a hit for working in the same industry as him.
I got one more question for you. When you say "Media is dividing the nation for profit and to smear a president who they politically don't agree with" do you include Fox News in that group?[/quote] yes, Faux news...I don't watch it because its biased. BUT I understand why people do....its because the mainstream media are biased, so if your a conservative you go there for news. What would you expect??? Ratings are high. I don't watch it....And I don't know why people would watch MSNBC or CNN...why would you get your news from a bias/slanted opinion? If you do, I hope at least you watch with an open mind, knowing the false assertions and opinions are likely biased and without proper context...and headlines are sensationalized to divide and reinforce narratives that are made up. |
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1196274]yes, Faux news...I don't watch it because its biased. BUT I understand why people do....its because the mainstream media are biased, so if your a conservative you go there for news. What would you expect??? Ratings are high.
I don't watch it....And I don't know why people would watch MSNBC or CNN...why would you get your news from a bias/slanted opinion? If you do, I hope at least you watch with an open mind, knowing the false assertions and opinions are likely biased and without proper context...and headlines are sensationalized to divide and reinforce narratives that are made up.[/QUOTE]Personally, I like feeling bipolar so i watch Rachel Maddow and Hannity at the same time. |
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I like it when the cult cries about the media but doesn't say what "media" they use to verify their own information ?;)
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196276]Personally, I like feeling bipolar so i watch Rachel Maddow and Hannity at the same time.[/quote]
LOL, great example of the cult not understanding the difference between News and OPINION................both of them are Opinion shows not "NEWS PROGRAMS".:D |
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[quote=Giantone;1196289]LOL, great example of the cult not understanding the difference between News and OPINION................both of them are Opinion shows not "NEWS PROGRAMS".:D[/quote]
This. What difference is there between an opinion article posted on MSN and a talking head discussing their opinion on a Fox News show? None. |
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[quote=mooby;1196290]This. What difference is there between an opinion article posted on MSN and a talking head discussing their opinion on a Fox News show? None.[/quote]
I understand they are both opinions, and looking at the post I replied to I can see why it looks like I was referring to them as news, that was not my intent. I simply was making a light hearted joke, hence the reference to my special brownies :) Edit: maybe I WAS having brownies, cuz my post actually doesn't have the brownies comment. That was in the SC thread. Nonetheless the bipolar comment was meant light heartedly. |
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[quote=Giantone;1196289]LOL, great example of the cult not understanding the difference between News and OPINION................both of them are Opinion shows not "NEWS PROGRAMS".:D[/quote]
I’ve notice a sad trend among CNN fake news media lately. Cnn has been called out for the fact they stop reporting actual news and now are just mainly biased opinion pieces....many of the opinions are flat out wrong or don’t give proper context or facts about whatever they are reporting. So I’ve notice they changed the labeling of “opinion” articles to the label “analysis” as a way to legitimize biased opinion...which still continues to do the same thing...either mischaracterize strategy, conveniently leave out facts, leave out context, leave of historical context, etc. It’s fake analysis....instead of poor opinion Remember to keep your eyes open when you read it folks |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196291]I understand they are both opinions, and looking at the post I replied to I can see why it looks like I was referring to them as news, that was not my intent. I simply was making a light hearted joke, hence the reference to my special brownies :)
Edit: maybe I WAS having brownies, cuz my post actually doesn't have the brownies comment. That was in the SC thread. Nonetheless the bipolar comment was meant light heartedly.[/quote] I skipped your brownies post because it's fake news, you're just trying to distract us from the real issues at hand. ;) |
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[B]BREAKING NEWS !!![/B] we found out who it is Chico gets his "news" from.......
[IMG]http://www.centerforworklife.com/cfwl-content/uploads/2014/01/anchorman-2-05.jpg[/IMG] [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9axezjJMVU[/url] |
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This is strictly an Opinion Piece but still pretty good.
[url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/joe-scarborough-calls-trump-white-house-most-corrupt-125127066.html[/url] Joe Scarborough laced into Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani on Monday’s “Morning Joe” in a rant that included a lengthy list of some of his clients’ biggest scandals. The MSNBC host said it all added up to being corruption of historic proportions. “This is the most corrupt administration in the history of our lifetime, certainly over the first year and a half,” said Scarborough. “[Giuliani] will tell you he’s been knighted by the Queen of England.” |
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FOX Opinion.............
[url]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/07/09/fox-news-host-howard-kurtz-criticizes-his-network-for-barely-covering-scott-pruitts-resignation/23478051/[/url] Fox News host Howard Kurtz pushed back on his own show's panelists who blamed media bias for former Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt's resignation last week. Instead of siding with his conservative-leaning guests, Kurtz said his network had failed to adequately cover the administrator's resignation last Thursday amid more than a dozen federal investigations into his conduct at the agency. Fox News host Howard Kurtz pushed back on his own panelists who blamed media bias for former Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt's resignation last week. Kurtz suggested that his own network, in fact, displayed bias by "barely" covering Pruitt's ouster amid more than a dozen investigations into his conduct at the EPA. |
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"[B]It's Working"![/B]
Yes, it is..........:biggthump [url]https://www.spin.com/2018/07/trump-staff-protests-working-nielsen-miller-pruitt-bannon/[/url] The patriotic Americans who have spent the last few weeks making life miserable for people like Stephen Miller and Kirstjen Nielsen can take some comfort in knowing that their efforts are working. Amid a flood of stories like this one about Steve Bannon being accosted at a bookstore over the weekend, the Washington Post published a lengthy story on the widespread efforts of ordinary people to disrupt public life for Trump administration staffers and appointees. There’s a good detail about Miller—an architect of the “zero tolerance” immigration rule that led to family separations at the border—throwing away $80 worth of sushi because he was mad that a bartender flicked him off. There’s also an illuminating quote from onetime communications director Anthony Scaramucci, hinting at the possibility that these protests are having a more substantial effect than a few ruined dinners: |
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Gotta give it up to all these folks who are being berated and yelled at in public. No one has even raised their voice back.
Interesting... |
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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1196343]Gotta give it up to all these folks who are being berated and yelled at in public. No one has even raised their voice back.
Interesting...[/QUOTE] Trump don’t like pussies [url]http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wants-staffers-to-stand-up-to-public-confrontations-2018-7?r=UK&IR=T[/url] |
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[quote=MTK;1196344]Trump don’t like pussies
[url=http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wants-staffers-to-stand-up-to-public-confrontations-2018-7?r=UK&IR=T]Trump wants staffers to stand up to public confrontations - Business Insider[/url][/quote] Wonder if it will happen or is this just fake news? Will be interesting to see...but the best strategy is just act normal...let the few do there thing |
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I'm surprised you'd say that Chico, the fact that Trump aggressively goes after his attackers is effective in that it only makes his supporters dig in deeper. Sure it makes his haters dig in deeper too but we can only do so much when his supporters are willing to follow him blind on every issue.
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[quote=Chico23231;1196343]Gotta give it up to all these folks who are being berated and yelled at in public.
Interesting...[/quote] ...........evidently chico ,that's not what is happening but hey why would you admit your're wrong? [url]https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/4d4298fb-e627-3cb8-b56c-19c84e0491f1/ss_kellyanne-conway%27s-husband%3A-i.html[/url] |
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[url]https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/13/technology/twitter-purge-biggest-losers/index.html[/url]
[QUOTE]President Donald Trump lost 204,000 of his 53.3 million followers. Singer Justin Bieber lost about 2.7 million followers, while President Obama's total dropped by nearly 2.4 million. That represents almost 2.5% of their respective followers. New organizations took a hit too. CNN's breaking news account lost roughly 1 million followers, while the main New York Times account lost about 730,000.[/QUOTE] Seems like Trump's followers are real people, and CNN/NYT has fake followers for their fake news. |
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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1196494][url]https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/13/technology/twitter-purge-biggest-losers/index.html[/url]
Seems like Trump's followers are real people, and CNN/NYT has fake followers for their fake news.[/QUOTE] Yet you linked to the fake news site, who’s to say that news is real |
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[quote=MTK;1196495]Yet you linked to the fake news site, who’s to say that news is real[/quote]
agreed, but libs believe it to be real, so i speak on their level. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196494][url]https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/13/technology/twitter-purge-biggest-losers/index.html[/url]
Seems like Trump's followers are real people, and CNN/NYT has fake followers for their fake news.[/quote] Yet Obama had double the followers on twitter, so how do you figure??? [url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2018/07/11/donald-trump-barack-obama-lose-twitter-followers-purge/775601002/[/url] How much of a decline there will be for Trump, who has 53.4 million followers, and Obama, who has 104 million, remains to be seen. One thing is likely: A backlash is coming. Conservatives have complained for years that these kinds of purges unfairly target conservative voices who don't agree with the political views of Twitter's largely liberal staff. For Twitter, this is just the latest effort to restore trust with users. Follower counts, a key measure of online popularity and influence, should be accurate, it says. So it made the decision to no longer include Twitter accounts that it had frozen for suspicious behavior in the totals of followers listed on people's profiles. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196496]agreed, but libs believe it to be real, so i speak on their level.[/quote]
Yet you can not name a media source that you trust. |
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1196499]Yet you can not name a media source that you trust.[/QUOTE]I can and I have. Not my fault your mind is stuck in liberal hell.
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196501]I can and I have. Not my fault your mind is stuck in liberal hell.[/quote]
LOL, no you haven't. Like a trump cult member you attack when pushed for facts. Way to ignore the question about twitter followers. |
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1196503]LOL, no you haven't. Like a trump cult member you attack when pushed for facts.
Way to ignore the question about twitter followers.[/QUOTE]I look at all the media from huffington post to breitbart, and then i look at what is rational and not rational. Sometimes CNN has accurate news. Sometimes Fox has accurate news, sometimes all the media shows the same news, mostly they show biased sides of the same news and critical thinking helps appraise it. I know that is incomprehensible in your mindset, that pinholes individuals as cultists or free thinkers or whatever other designation you apply to help you feel better about yourself. As for the twitter followers, i only posted here because if you took msm reports you would think all of trumps followers were these bogus accounts when in fact he had very few both percentage wise and pure numbers compared to the msm and/or pres obama. |
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Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196504]I look at all the media from huffington post to breitbart, and then i look at what is rational and not rational. Sometimes CNN has accurate news. Sometimes Fox has accurate news, sometimes all the media shows the same news, mostly they show biased sides of the same news and critical thinking helps appraise it. I know that is incomprehensible in your mindset, that pinholes individuals as cultists or free thinkers or whatever other designation you apply to help you feel better about yourself.
As for the twitter followers, i only posted here because if you took msm reports you would think all of trumps followers were these bogus accounts when in fact he had very few both percentage wise and pure numbers compared to the msm and/or pres obama.[/quote] LOL, so in other words the MSM is only bias when you say they are,got it. In your previous post #506 you claim CNN is "fake news" ...now it's sometimes,you decide what is rationale and what is not,so to you the news is what you agree with at the time to be real? Thank you for proving my point. |
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[quote=mooby;1196505]Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?[/quote]
There are things I like about all of them but unlike many others I realize that journalist are all so just humans and make mistakes as do Doctors,Teachers and Politicians.I all so can tell the difference from an "OPINION MEDIA" to a news media ,Shepard Smith is very good for one,there are many,good honest people in the media who do good honest jobs. |
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[QUOTE=mooby;1196505]Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?[/QUOTE]The problem is, I dont think any of them are very good at it anymore. Very few articles are written in the spirit of "just the facts ma'am". Certainly, in my opinion, none of the outlets (fox, cnn, cbs etc) that put themselves as news first opinion second are reliable enough to trust their information on their name alone. CNN was at one time but social media and internet speed of news has changed that.
As for reporting agencies like ap or reuters, I trust reuters the most. In a short answer to your question reuters would be my most trusted news source. I also like british broadcastng for an outside of the us viewpoint of stories, not that they don't have bias, but their bias is shifted from the traditional left right here in the us so as to give you insight through perspectives |
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1196506]LOL, so in other words the MSM is only bias when you say they are,got it. In your previous post #506 you claim CNN is "fake news" ...now it's sometimes,you decide what is rationale and what is not,so to you the news is what you agree with at the time to be real? Thank you for proving my point.[/QUOTE]
I said "seems like cnn had fake followers for their fake news". In that sentence i don't claim all their followers are fake (that would be demonstrably false) and likewise i am not claiming all their news is fake. And yes, i do think it is important to use our intelligence and discretion to read, analyze, discuss and understand what is most likely true and what is abjectly false. It is not my agreement that makes it true, but if it is true then i am not likely to disagree with it even if it doesnt align with my political beliefs. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1196511]I said "seems like cnn had fake followers for their fake news". In that sentence i don't claim all their followers are fake (that would be demosnstrably false) and likewise i am not claiming all their news is fake.
And yes, i do think it is important to use our intelligence and discretion to read, analyze, discuss and understand what is most likely true and what is abjectly false. It is not my agreement that makes it true, but if it is true then i am not likely to disagree with it even if it doesnt align with my political beliefs.[/quote] So in short it's not "Media Bias" but your own "personal bias" . |
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[quote=mooby;1196505]Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?[/quote]
My local news tends to be very unbiased along with the richmond times dispatch ABC morning shows and nightly news seems to be not that biased imo. CBS and NBC...Morning and nightly news is clearly biased. I think CBS tends to be the most liberal lean with biased language, cherry picking facts. To me, the most offensive is CNN...it’s straight propaganda and tabloid. The best thing they do is refuse to give any context, sensationalized headlines, they leave out facts, they refused to “prosecute” the obama adminstration for the exact same policies just several years ago, they present editorials as fact based, biased language, etc. |
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[quote=mooby;1196505]Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?[/quote]
Two I think do a very good job are NPR and AP. I all so like Reuters,Politico CBS,ABC and yes I like the WASHINGTON POST and NY TIMES . |
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[QUOTE=Giantone;1196512]So in short it's not "Media Bias" but your own "personal bias" .[/QUOTE]That is so mind numbingly wrong that it is on par with your calling yourself a republican.
Yes i have a personal bias, as everyone on this site does. We are expected to have one as we are rational intelligent humans. The media/news is supposed to try not let personal bias inject itself in reporting facts. The point of this thread, and my point in talking about media bias in general, is that all the major news outlets have gone greatly astray from that ideal, to the point that none of them can, on face value, be taken as consistent deliverers of non biased news stories. |
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[QUOTE=mooby;1196505]Which news site would you say is the best in terms of sticking to truth and keeping bias out of articles?[/QUOTE][IMG]http://www.allgeneralizationsarefalse.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Media-Bias-Chart_Version-3.1_Watermark-min.jpg[/IMG]
This is a chart from [url]www.allgeneralizationsarefalse.com[/url] that looks like the author has put good research into it. |
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