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artmonkforhallofamein07 10-29-2015 10:07 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=DYoungJelly;1127129]There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. - Mark Twain

[url=http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb]FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2015[/url]

For what it's worth.

Cousins is in pretty decent company.[/quote]

In watching Cousins I don't really care what some analytics say about his play or what company that puts him in. Please everyone stop comparing him to other QBs especially Manning and Farve. Your argument doesn't hold water. My eyes tell me he has made some strides this year in the mental aspect of his game after he makes mistakes. But what they also tell me is that he has yet to put together back to back good games, he has yet to play a good game on the road and he his good games are in the middle of multiple bad games. BOTTTOM LINE the jury is still well out on him and until consistent play is accomplished I don't feel he is the future.

Brody81 10-29-2015 11:24 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;1127164]In watching Cousins I don't really care what some analytics say about his play or what company that puts him in. Please everyone stop comparing him to other QBs especially Manning and Farve. Your argument doesn't hold water. My eyes tell me he has made some strides this year in the mental aspect of his game after he makes mistakes. But what they also tell me is that he has yet to put together back to back good games, he has yet to play a good game on the road and he his good games are in the middle of multiple bad games. BOTTTOM LINE the jury is still well out on him and until consistent play is accomplished I don't feel he is the future.[/QUOTE]



You are entitled to your opinion.


The good thing is we have a competent GM that will make the call on Kirk Cousins. Luckily no one on this website will have a say.

JoeRedskin 10-29-2015 11:55 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1127164]In watching Cousins I don't really care what some analytics say about his play or what company that puts him in. Please everyone stop comparing him to other QBs especially Manning and Farve. Your argument doesn't hold water. [B]My eyes tell me he has made some strides this year in the mental aspect of his game after he makes mistakes. But what they also tell me is that he has yet to put together back to back good games, he has yet to play a good game on the road and he his good games are in the middle of multiple bad games. BOTTTOM LINE the jury is still well out on him and until consistent play is accomplished I don't feel he is the future.[/B][/quote]

My eyes are seeing the exact same thing.

Not looking for him to be flawless, just looking for the good games to be about a 2:1 ratio of good games to the bad ones. Consistently.

Irrefutable 10-29-2015 12:10 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
SIAP....Cousins is a free agent, if he plays well he will be hard sign

Ruhskins 10-29-2015 12:15 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1127172]SIAP....Cousins is a free agent, if he plays well he will be hard sign[/quote]

And signing him to an extension is risky, given his inconsistency.

Chico23231 10-29-2015 12:25 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Lets look around the league and the upcoming college class of QB......not alot there.

Like someone said, McC isnt gonna press and feel rushed to overpay or overdraft a QB. The only real option is to be patient with Cousins and hope he can develop and at the same time hope someone emerges as a good college QB prospect that McC recognizes as draftable. In the mean time, let McC continue to build the team in other areas.

CRedskinsRule 10-29-2015 03:00 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1127174]Lets look around the league and the upcoming college class of QB......not alot there.

Like someone said, McC isnt gonna press and feel rushed to overpay or overdraft a QB. The only real option is to be patient with Cousins and hope he can develop and at the same time hope someone emerges as a good college QB prospect that McC recognizes as draftable. In the mean time, let McC continue to build the team in other areas.[/quote]

I agree with this. Also think SM knows that getting the right qb isn't an easy task, and imagine a competent GM (ie SM) would be looking at plans and options in order to find a few good options. I think one of those would be resigning KC to a mid tier contract something like Matt Flynn's in Seattle, and bringing in a college qb SM and his staff like.

Irrefutable 10-29-2015 03:42 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1127173]And signing him to an extension is risky, given his inconsistency.[/quote]

it depends on the price, mediocre QBs in the NFL get $$$$$

OmahaRedskins 10-29-2015 09:38 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1127183]it depends on the price, mediocre QBs in the NFL get $$$$$[/quote]

This is the only option. Unless they can trade for matt stafford or similar QB, they have to bring KC back and possibly draft a young QB.

Hog1 10-29-2015 10:37 PM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=OmahaRedskins;1127192]This is the only option. [B]Unless they can trade for matt stafford or similar QB[/B], they have to bring KC back and possibly draft a young QB.[/quote]

I KNOW.......your joking

A10sROCK 10-30-2015 01:14 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
Although Kirk just had a very good game, he hasn't been that consistent in his passing and decision making this season. His inconsistent play has cost the Redskins games this season (not going to discuss his dismal play last year).

My sense is that he will continue to improve [I]some[/I] during this season but that he is not the long-term franchise QB that the Redskins have been searching for over the last two decades. If he does improve some and cuts down on his INT then that saves the Redskins from having to pay a king's ransom for a top-tier college draft pick (like with RG3). I still think that our GM McC will be looking at the QB class in this coming years draft. But an improved Cousins will make the team less desperate for an immediate fix at QB. I'm not a KC h8er but don't think he's the long term answer for this team at QB. I'd love to be wrong about that.

JPPT1974 10-30-2015 01:56 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
He not just has great numbers so far. But he has come up clutch! Like the win against TB!

REDSKINS4ever 10-30-2015 04:42 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[quote=JPPT1974;1127199]He not just has great numbers so far. But he has come up clutch! Like the win against TB![/quote]

What about the infamous pick 6 against Atlanta? Would you call that clutch?

Brody81 10-30-2015 07:30 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;1127200]What about the infamous pick 6 against Atlanta? Would you call that clutch?[/QUOTE]


You mean the pick that Grant fell down?


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JoeRedskin 10-30-2015 08:14 AM

Re: Who is Kirk Cousins?
 
I think he means the pick that Cousins either (1) failed to recognize the blitz; (2) failed to alter the protection after recognizing the blitz; or (3) lofted a blind pass into the flat that, even had the receiver not fallen down, still gave the defender a better play on the ball than the receiver.

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