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tannehill is garbage. weeden is the 3rd best qb prospect in this draft

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[QUOTE=los panda;891916]tannehill is garbage. weeden is the 3rd best qb prospect in this draft[/QUOTE]



Don't worry next years class will be better.

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what me worry? i can barely recall watching brad johnson play for us. i'm used to the trash

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;891919]Don't worry next years class will be better.[/quote]

From hear on in I'm putting bounties on big hits against anyone that doesn't support RG3. Double cash if that same person tries to sell you on next years class over this years.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;891923]From hear on in I'm putting bounties on big hits against anyone that doesn't support RG3. Double cash if that same person tries to sell you on next years class over this years.[/quote]

Since it is the offseason, Matty should put bounties on people that start pointless/repetitive threads. :food-smil

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[quote=los panda;891916]tannehill is garbage. weeden is the 3rd best qb prospect in this draft[/quote]

Everyone here will tell you I'm a huge Weeden fan also. I'm just showing there are others who believe that Tannehill might be better in our system then RGIII. Namely because (I think) he played in a pro style of offense in college instead of the spread. Lindy's Sports Draft Mag compares him to Mark Sanchez, probably the closest comparison they could find. I did find it funny they compared Osweiler to Matt Schaub.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;891923]From hear on in I'm putting bounties on big hits against anyone that doesn't support RG3. Double cash if that same person tries to sell you on next years class over this years.[/quote]

Ok, blast me brother. I thought I read somewhere that MS really wanted Barkley whom we could simply continue to fix up the offensive side of the ball then go all in next year with 2 yrs worth of drafts if you all want to.

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[quote=SBXVII;891926]Ok, blast me brother. I thought I read somewhere that MS really wanted Barkley whom we could simply continue to fix up the offensive side of the ball then go all in next year with 2 yrs worth of drafts if you all want to.[/quote]

I still maintain that you are going to have to hit big on an awful lot of picks to even think of equaling the impact of a strong, smart, and mobile QB like RGIII.

I mean think about it. Could we ever have a shot of trading Orakpo, Helu, Royster, Kerrigan, Williams, Landry, Jenkins, Thomas, Rogers, Campbell, and Kelly for Cam Newton?

By the way thats 6 first round picks, 3 second round picks, a fourth, and a sixth round pick. And of those 6 first round picks 3 were top 10 picks.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;891928]I still maintain that you are going to have to hit big on an awful lot of picks to even think of equaling the impact of a strong, smart, and mobile QB like RGIII.

I mean think about it. Could we ever have a shot of trading Orakpo, Helu, Royster, Kerrigan, Williams, Landry, Jenkins, Thomas, Rogers, Campbell, and Kelly for Cam Newton?[/quote]

Nope. No different then how hard it would be to trade them for someone like Brady and he was a 6th round draft pick.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;891928]I still maintain that you are going to have to hit big on an awful lot of picks to even think of equaling the impact of a strong, smart, and mobile QB like RGIII.

I mean think about it. Could we ever have a shot of trading Orakpo, Helu, Royster, Kerrigan, Williams, Landry, Jenkins, Thomas, Rogers, Campbell, and Kelly for Cam Newton?

[B]By the way thats 6 first round picks, 3 second round picks, a fourth, and a sixth round pick. And of those 6 first round picks 3 were top 10 picks.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I like to look at the bright side.... the other 5 picks were not top 10 and they are starting also. Apparently the Skins got really good value for them to be after the top 10 and be starters.

I like to think if the team gets the right player with the most skills they are looking for at whatever position they will work out. RGIII might be the 2nd best QB in this yrs draft but someone like Tannehill might be better suited for what we do simply because his learning curve might be smaller. Yes he might need to work on his skills but if he was in a pro system in college I feel he might learn quicker and be more usefull right out of college. < hopefully I said that right. lol.

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if brennan is michael jordan, consider tannehill scottie pippen

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[quote=Alvin Walton;891592]pfffffttttt
So he plays for two years (not exactly enough time to build a dynasty) and then we start all over again....screw that.[/quote]

Consecutive SBs isn't a dynasty? Ok, maybe that's over the top, but how the hell does anyone not see that a healthy Peyton Manning with an average defense has a legitimate shot. Improve the defense and it looks even better.

...I'll take those two "opportunities" over an unproven college player every given sunday. And it gives us two years to find/mentor that next guy. All you gotta worry bout then is our fanbase making the mistake Denver fans made in rejecting whoever had to take the first snap after Elway retired (w/ two rings in two season) ;)

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does anyone believe that peyton manning was somewhat protected by officials (more so than other qbs) during his days in indy?

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[quote=los panda;891938]does anyone believe that peyton manning was somewhat protected by officials (more so than other qbs) during his days in indy?[/quote]

I think Brady is slightly more protected.

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is that a "yes, but"? i was at the game when brady slip and fletch pumped his iron. it was a tough call. but, i do agree that brady is protected more so than other qbs

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[quote=skinsfaninok;891599]So you are saying u would take grossman over Manning?[/quote]

As a backup, yes. Why pay $20mil for a guy to be second string? I don't think it's an option for Rex to start next year unless RG3, Tannenhill, Weeden, McCoy, Flynn, Quinn, Young or any other QB pick up is injured. I do want Rexy back as a backup. He seems to be a great locker room guy (unlike Orton), knows the system (unlike most other FA journeymen), and definitely is in a position to help mentor a first round pick. And yes, Beck is under contract and by now should be able to help someone learn the playbook, but no thank you.
Realistically, it doesn't matter who our QB is next year our goal should be 9-7 with more wins the second half of the year than the first. 2013, with two good drafts and FA signings along with retaining leaders like Fletcher, could be a Super Bowl run.

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[quote=rypper11;892005]As a backup, yes. Why pay $20mil for a guy to be second string? I don't think it's an option for Rex to start next year unless RG3, Tannenhill, Weeden, McCoy, Flynn, Quinn, Young or any other QB pick up is injured. I do want Rexy back as a backup. He seems to be a great locker room guy (unlike Orton), knows the system (unlike most other FA journeymen), and definitely is in a position to help mentor a first round pick. And yes, Beck is under contract and by now should be able to help someone learn the playbook, but no thank you.
Realistically, it doesn't matter who our QB is next year our goal should be 9-7 with more wins the second half of the year than the first. 2013, with two good drafts and FA signings along with retaining leaders like Fletcher, could be a Super Bowl run.[/quote]

I believe, IMO of course, that this scenario would be much more possible with Manning at the helm, a solid WR with our 1st round pick, and some solid FA acquisitions. People just arent deducting that with a Manning caliber QB running WHATEVER offense, every other position will look superior than they have in the past. Not only that, but given a competent offense which Manning would bring, our defensive numbers would only improve, IMHO, just due to the fact that the turnovers would be drastically reduced and the O would be on the field much more than the previous offense of last year. Fresher defense = more turnovers for us, and more oppurtunities to pin our ears back and go AFTER the opposing team, instead of huffing it just to keep up with them due to the fatigue factor.

In short, Manning would improve BOTH sides of the ball. And I believe, IMO that makes us instant contenders for the NFCE crown, and in a position to go even deeper than that.

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[quote=Mechanix544;892055]I believe, IMO of course, that this scenario would be much more possible with Manning at the helm, a solid WR with our 1st round pick, and some solid FA acquisitions. People just arent deducting that with a Manning caliber QB running WHATEVER offense, every other position will look superior than they have in the past. Not only that, but given a competent offense which Manning would bring, our defensive numbers would only improve, IMHO, just due to the fact that the turnovers would be drastically reduced and the O would be on the field much more than the previous offense of last year. Fresher defense = more turnovers for us, and more oppurtunities to pin our ears back and go AFTER the opposing team, instead of huffing it just to keep up with them due to the fatigue factor.

In short, Manning would improve BOTH sides of the ball. And I believe, IMO that makes us instant contenders for the NFCE crown, and in a position to go even deeper than that.[/quote]

The crucial thing is, will Kyle Shanahan number one, incorporate the script/playbook/plays that Peyton Manning ran in Indy's offense to tweak into his own offense, and secondly, will Kyle Shanahan shut up, take a step back, and allow Peyton Manning to do his own thing? One thing is for certain: Manning is not a typical west coast offense quarterback, and no matter how great a QB is or was in another system, especially playing in that system for his entire career, he's not going to be as successful in a whole new system automatically and that's why Mike Shanahan and his son would have to incorporate the concepts that Manning used in Indianapolis into their version of the west coast offense.

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Yes, the egos must be checked upon entrance into Redskins Camp, and I hope that all parties involved, should Manning happen to sign here, would do just that for the betterment of the team.

Just a footnote, we haven't had a QB of Mannings caliber EVER in DC. I would be so overjoyed to see him here, no matter what age he is. He instantly would bring a sense of professionalism and credibility to this team, as well as the new FO. I would just love to see the fruition of what Peyton Manning could bring to this organization, even if it is only for 3 or 4 years.

INSTANT CREDIBILITY

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[quote=Mechanix544;892091]Yes, the egos must be checked upon entrance into Redskins Camp, and I hope that all parties involved, should Manning happen to sign here, would do just that for the betterment of the team.

Just a footnote, we haven't had a QB of Mannings caliber EVER in DC. I would be so overjoyed to see him here, no matter what age he is. He instantly would bring a sense of professionalism and credibility to this team, as well as the new FO. I would just love to see the fruition of what Peyton Manning could bring to this organization, even if it is only for 3 or 4 years.

INSTANT CREDIBILITY[/quote]This offseason the Peyton Manning should be option numbero uno.

Sign Peyton Manning.
Sign Reggie Wayne.
Draft talent in the first 3 rounds to help the team: RT, WR, DL

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[quote=30gut;892388]This offseason the Peyton Manning should be option numbero uno.

Sign Peyton Manning.
Sign Reggie Wayne.
Draft talent in the first 3 rounds to help the team: RT, WR, DL[/quote]


If it was any other quarterback entering free agency besides Peyton Manning, I would be against signing him. But it's Peyton Manning, the most prolific quarterback since Joe Montana. I do want the Redskins to draft RG3, but signing Manning to a lucrative deal will allow the Redskins to hold on to all of their draft picks and to continue to retool the roster into an eventual contender.

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[quote=30gut;892388]This offseason the Peyton Manning should be option numbero uno.

Sign Peyton Manning.
Sign Reggie Wayne.
Draft talent in the first 3 rounds to help the team: RT, WR, DL[/quote]

Sign Garcon too for good measure :)

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[quote=Mattyk;892519]Sign Garcon too for good measure :)[/quote]

Throw in Saturday and we can become the Washington Coltskins :food-smil

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Dagnabit, I know one day makes no difference but I was counting down the days to Thurs. thinking that was the day the Colts had to have a decision by.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/colts-have-until-friday-at-400-p-m-et-to-cut-peyton/]Colts have until Friday at 4:00 p.m. ET to cut Peyton | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[url=http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/browns_targeting_matt_flynn_in_free_agency/10241986]Browns targeting Matt Flynn in Free Agency? | Yardbarker.com[/url]

Can we just go out and thumb our noses at the Rams, pick up PM, pick up Flynn, draft Tannehill, dump our current QB's, get solid talent around the QB position as in WR and OL and piss off the rest of the QB hungry teams and make our weakness one of our strengths?

Just venting.

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For all those RGIII fans best thing that can happen

Flynn to Browns
Manning to Miami
JC to Jacksonville

Price should go down with the Rams... hopefully

I've seen two mocks one on nflnetwork and the other on the web , both had us taking RT at 6. Honestly if we don't get RG3 I'd just assume take Blackmon or trade down around 10 or 12

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-drew-brees-livid-franchise-tag-011643713.html]Report: Drew Brees is ‘livid’ about the franchise tag | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;892561][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/report-drew-brees-livid-franchise-tag-011643713.html]Report: Drew Brees is ‘livid’ about the franchise tag | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/QUOTE]

Holdout coming

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Saints organization dealing with all sorts of heat eh.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;892559]For all those RGIII fans best thing that can happen

Flynn to Browns
Manning to Miami
JC to Jacksonville

Price should go down with the Rams... hopefully[/quote]

i originally thought that as well but then i was thinking wont the rams have us by the balls is that happens, knowing that trading up is really our best option if Flynn and PM are picked up? idk just a thought i just hope we get RG3 somehow

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;892584]i originally thought that as well but then i was thinking wont the rams have us by the balls is that happens, knowing that trading up is really our best option if Flynn and PM are picked up? idk just a thought i just hope we get RG3 somehow[/quote]

They have us by the balls if we don't like Tannehill, but I doubt that's the case. If the aforementioned scenario occurs, we essentially hold all the cards, they don't want to trade with us? So be it, we'll wait for MIN, because no one else is trading up with STL.

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[quote=Mahons21;892591]They have us by the balls if we don't like Tannehill, but I doubt that's the case. If the aforementioned scenario occurs, we essentially hold all the cards, they don't want to trade with us? So be it, we'll wait for MIN, because no one else is trading up with STL.[/quote]

i see what your saying, i just hope we really dont miss the boat and another team sneak in front of us and trade up. im thinking more and more i would only be happy with RG3 or a healthy peyton a HEALTHY peyton.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;892559]For all those RGIII fans best thing that can happen

Flynn to Browns
Manning to Miami
JC to Jacksonville

Price should go down with the Rams... hopefully[/quote]

Are you talking about Jason Campbell? Why does he matter in all this?

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[quote=SmootSmack;892593]Are you talking about Jason Campbell? Why does he matter in all this?[/quote]


I think he was trying to solve JAX QB problem but they have Gabbert I doubt they are ready to give up on him now.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;892592]i see what your saying, i just hope we really dont miss the boat and another team sneak in front of us and trade up. im thinking more and more i would only be happy with RG3 or a healthy peyton a HEALTHY peyton.[/quote]

What other team would it be though?
MIA- Taken care of
CLE- Taken care of
SEA- If STL has a single brain cell they won't trade him inside the division
KC- Too far of a jump and Cassell

Unless some mystery team emerges, which I personally doubt considering the cost it would take to move up, I'd say we would be bending them over our knee to teach them a lesson.

I agree that it's possible, but since I don't see any real viable options, I don't think it's very probable.

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[quote=SBXVII;892555][url=http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/browns_targeting_matt_flynn_in_free_agency/10241986]Browns targeting Matt Flynn in Free Agency? | Yardbarker.com[/url]
[/quote]

Hmmmm, big name free agent choosing between Cleveland and Miami. Where have I seen this before? Lol

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;892584]i originally thought that as well but then i was thinking wont the rams have us by the balls is that happens, knowing that trading up is really our best option if Flynn and PM are picked up? idk just a thought i just hope we get RG3 somehow[/quote]

Well at that point you would still have to contend with two factors. The Seahawks being able to bid, though unlikely the Rams would trade RG3 to a division rival. And of course the fact that above all else, no matter how many teams are bidding, you still have to make the Rams feel comfortable about dropping from 2 to 6 and passing up on Kalil, or possibly Blackmon.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;892600]Well at that point you would still have to contend with two factors. The Seahawks being able to bid, though unlikely the Rams would trade RG3 to a division rival. And of course the fact that above all, no matter how many teams are bidding, you still have to make the Rams feel comfortable about dropping from 2 to 6 and passing up on Kalil, or possibly Blackmon.[/quote]

I feel we have a better chance to get the trade with the Rams than the Vikings. If the Rams keep the pick i think we lose any advantage we had, the Vikings will be willing to hear anyones offer including someone like seattle.

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The whole bidding/not bidding with your divisional rivals seems silly to me. It is almost a cliche. If the Seahawks give the Rams what they want why would the Rams care that they play in the same division. I can see this kind of holding water with a veteran player but RG3 has never even played in the league.