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Like I said we trade down u pick him, I'm more concerned with OL than WR. It all starts in the trenches. We need an OL that manhandles defenses.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875965]Aaron Rodgers said today that he believes that Matt Flynn will leave to become a starter next year, and that he believes that Matt Flynn is a top 10 NFL QB.


I remember hearing reports on one of those pregame shows (ESPN, FOX, CBS) that Matt Flynn was playing better than Aaron Rodgers in their practices, in terms of accuracy, calling plays, identify the blitz, etc. Yeah I know Its Practice, but when the organization is hyping him up that much, and he throws for 6 TD's, it makes you lean more towards he's a boom more than a bust.[/quote]

I am going to play a little devils advocate here, and say that GB puts the franchise tag on Flynn just get something for him in a trade. If so then GB players and coaches would be talking him up just to add to his trade value that could benefit the Packers in the long run.

It is an angle that you should look if GB decides to take that approach this coming Feb.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;875970]I am going to play a little devils advocate here, and say that GB puts the franchise tag on Flynn just get something for him in a trade. If so then GB players and coaches would be talking him up just to add to his trade value that could benefit the Packers in the long run.

It is an angle that you should look if GB decides to take that approach this coming Feb.[/quote]

They certainly could go that route, but just to play devil's advocate again, if nobody meets their price they would be stuck paying him even more than Rodgers (about $14.5M) to sit on the bench. Plus they need to get a deal done with Finley so they might want to use the tag on him instead. They'll definitely have some tough decisions to make. I don't see them letting him walk for nothing either.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/15/packers-dont-plan-to-use-franchise-tag-on-flynn/]Packers “unlikely” to use franchise tag on Flynn | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Funny you should bring up Flynn and franchising him

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Matty- for sure that would be the gamble and problem with actually doing that, but hey just thought I would bring it up for the hell of it. ;)

Cult- thanks for the quick link on that! way to do your homework and bring the a game. ha!

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Here is my adjusted hopefull 2012 Roster.

QB: RGIII, Vince Young or Josh Johnson Practice Squad: Kellen Moore
RB: Helu, Royster, Hightower, LaMichael James
FB Darrell Young
WR: Hankerson, Royal, Gaffney, Austin, Armstrong, Paul, Moss, Stallworth, Plaxico Burress, A. Robinson ( Not all these guys make it to opening day roster but I want competition)
TE: Cooley, Davis, Paulsen

T: Williams, Brown, Polumbus, Smith
G: Chester, Hurt, Gurode, Mid draft rookie pick like Phillip Blake possible G/C or Brewster
C: Lichtensteiger

NT: Neild, Cofield, Baker, Paul Soliai (if we could pick up Soliai I'd move Cofield to DE
DE: Bowen, Jenkins, Carriker, Igor Olshansky, Kentwan Balmer (competition for 53)
LB: Alexander, Fletcher, Kerrigan, Orakpo, Riley, D’Qwell Jackson-(could replace Fletch), Fox, White
CB: Barnes, Hall, Wilson, Westbrook, Thompson, I would say Grimes but his price tag may be too high. Brandon Carr instead

FS: Atogwe, Gomes
SS: Landry (only if he has achielies surg), Doughty

K: Gano- I know many don't like him but I feel we put him in bad spot a lot of times Draft someon better if need be, lol.
P: Rocca

Notable caskoff Banks- James can do everything he does and more.

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Whoops, wrong thread.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;875959]I would not have a problem with the team adding a top OL propest with our first pick in the draft if that is the most beneficial move for the squad. If we can find a QB in FA and not have to worry about moving up in the draft to grab him then we can use our 6th pick to add someone of importance. It is also nice to have 4 picks in the first 100. We can add some starters with those picks.[/quote]

Other than Matt Flynn, what other QB are slated to be free agents? Would you rather for the Browns to sign Flynn which would undoubtedly assure us of drafting RG3? If this scenario happens, then more than likely the Redskins wouldn't have to trade up since the Browns are projected to take Alabama's Trent Richardson. Or would you rather the Skins keep their draft picks and sign a free agent QB?

Free Agent QBs rarely pan out like ones who are drafted high.

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I just think there is alot to play out before the draft with FA and teams releasing guys, you never know who may be available.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;876034]Other than Matt Flynn, what other QB are slated to be free agents? Would you rather for the Browns to sign Flynn which would undoubtedly assure us of drafting RG3? If this scenario happens, then more than likely the Redskins wouldn't have to trade up since the Browns are projected to take Alabama's Trent Richardson. Or would you rather the Skins keep their draft picks and sign a free agent QB?

Free Agent QBs rarely pan out like ones who are drafted high.[/quote]

Why wouldn't Cleveland take RG3? Coy ain't that good seems to me Cleveland could use a big splash play maker

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What if we stay at 6 trade back a couple of times and pick up more picks grab Zebrie Sanders OT FSU & pick Darron Thomas QB Oregon in the 3rd or 4th round as a project QB.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;876103]What if we stay at 6 trade back a couple of times and pick up more picks grab Zebrie Sanders OT FSU & pick Darron Thomas QB Oregon in the 3rd or 4th round as a project QB.[/quote]

:doh:

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/33274/thomas-makes-surprising-draft-decision]Thomas makes surprising draft decision - Pac-12 Blog - ESPN[/url]

He won't even be drafted.

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[quote=NC_Skins;876104]:doh:

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/33274/thomas-makes-surprising-draft-decision]Thomas makes surprising draft decision - Pac-12 Blog - ESPN[/url]

He won't even be drafted.[/quote]


Hence the word project QB.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;876105]Hence the word project QB.[/quote]

we need a real QB

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;876105]Hence the word project QB.[/quote]

but you said use a 3rd or 4th rounder for him. You want to use a high round draft pick on a guy slated not to even be drafted?

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Thomas is a bad passer

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Draft RGIII and L. James, I promise the Redskins will be good for the next 10 years.

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[quote=NC_Skins;876108]but you said use a 3rd or 4th rounder for him. You want to use a high round draft pick on a guy slated not to even be drafted?[/quote]


The Draft sites I've read slated him at 3rd round to 5th round, I will look again and post the sights when I find them. His win record is better than Tannenhill.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;876105]Hence the word project QB.[/quote]

There's no such thing as a project QB. They can either come in and play or they cant. The days of having a QB sit and watch until his turn comes around are over.

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[quote=irish;876203]There's no such thing as a project QB. They can either come in and play or they cant. The days of having a QB sit and watch until his turn comes around are over.[/quote]

I agree with your sentiment that the redskins need someone to come in now or soon and perform, but you can still have a project QB and I expect the redskins to probably get one via the draft.

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[quote=irish;876203]There's no such thing as a project QB. They can either come in and play or they cant. The days of having a QB sit and watch until his turn comes around are over.[/quote]

Aaron Rodgers and Phillip Rivers agree.

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[quote=mooby;876247]Aaron Rodgers and Phillip Rivers agree.[/quote]

Thank you. My point exactly.

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I've said it before I would like US to draft Zebrie Sanders OT FSU, then bring in Ryan Harris he's had a whole season for his back to mend if it's going to mend and have them battle it out for starting RT. Maybe the offseason will repair Jammal Browns hip.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;876284]Thank you. My point exactly.[/quote]

Are you comparing Darron Thomas to Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers??

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;876294]Are you comparing Darron Thomas to Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers??[/quote]

No I'm saying there is such a thing as a QB project.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;876294]Are you comparing Darron Thomas to Phillip Rivers and Aaron Rodgers??[/quote]

And only time will tell, NOBODY thought Brady would be this good. I just want us to get a QB. No stone should be left unturned.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;876295]No I'm saying there is such a thing as a QB project.[/quote]

Rodgers and Rivers were not projects though.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;876296]And only time will tell, NOBODY thought Brady would be this good. I just want us to get a QB. No stone should be left unturned.[/quote]

Now you're comparing Darron Thomas to Tom Brady. I say draft a QB in the later rounds (5th-7th) But Tom Brady is the exception that proves the rule.

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[quote=earthquake2689;876313][B]now you're comparing darron thomas to tom brady[/B]. I say draft a qb in the later rounds (5th-7th) but tom brady is the exception that proves the rule.[/quote]

lmao :)

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i'd like to see us acquire a legit kicker/punter tandem

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I want the Cincy draft: WR/QB=Playoffs effect

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[quote=los panda;876338]i'd like to see us acquire a legit kicker/punter tandem[/quote]

Well we already have a punter. Sav Rocca is aMAZING!

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[quote=Chico23231;876344]I want the Cincy draft: WR/QB=Playoffs effect[/quote]

would be nice.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;864252]i hope we are active in free agency. way too many holes just to count on the draft[/quote]

Lol arent the Redskins ALWAYS active in FA?

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[quote=LionsFanVisiting;876425]Lol arent the Redskins ALWAYS active in FA?[/quote]

not last year, but effectively active in my opinion. this year we need a WR if we arent going to draft one i like bowe, and a replacement for landry if we let him walk, i dont want to let him go but if we do i like branch from oakland.

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This Redskins team needs help at QB, OL, WR, and possibly TE if Fred Davis isn't re-signed. I'd like the Redskins to draft RG3, draft a few quality offensive lineman, and sign either Bowe or Colston in free agency to bolster our WR corps.

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;876426]not last year, but effectively active in my opinion. this year we need a WR if we arent going to draft one i like bowe, and a replacement for landry if we let him walk, i dont want to let him go but if we do i like branch from oakland.[/quote]


No no, Landry can go.

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[quote=SkinzWin;876353]Well we already have a punter. Sav Rocca is aMAZING![/quote]

Sav Rocca should have made the pro bowl.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;875885]Smith was one of the worst grades I just put up. It's polumbus who's better than him..[/quote]

You were saying....

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Smith-Stepped-Up-Against-Elite-Pass-Rushers/f6d7c071-fdf1-4035-9cb7-161943ce5228]Smith Stepped Up Against Elite Pass Rushers[/url]

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[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2012/01/20/practice-bubble-inflating-at-redskins-park/]The Redskins Blog | Practice Bubble Inflating At Redskins Park[/url]


At least the 2012 Skins won't have to worry about practicing at some gym or hanger if bad weather rolls around.

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