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[quote=Chico23231;1183140] Has he been able to run the country...yes he has. Has he been able to lead the country? tougher to answer.[/quote]

No he hasn't ,others have done his work for him and admit it or not much of that from Obama people left over in Washington..He can't lead a Camel to water!

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[quote=mooby;1183344]This was on page 4 of MSN at the time I clicked the link.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kihuen-wont-seek-reelection-amid-sexual-harassment-allegations/ar-BBGOXSc?li=BBnb7Kz[/url]

Front page news? Not unless there's a major outrage that the story wasn't picked up.[/quote]

Buried story on page 4...certainly not going out of the way to report news. But nothing on Bobby Scott on either cnn or msn? Strange how sexual harassment has been the biggest story over the last two months, but limited coverage for these two?

Doesn’t add up....certainly biased media based on political affiliation. If these were republicans, front page no doubt.

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I don't need to check Fox News, but I bet something on their front page is about some liberal politician harassment scandal.

It goes both ways Chico. When's the last time you saw coverage of innocent Muslims being killed on Fox News? How about that pro-Trump school kid from the SW killing his classmates? You already know what their focus is going to be on. You sit here acting like we should be getting outraged on it. If you don't like what their focus is, don't click. You click, the cycle continues. Quit being bated.

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[url]https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/19/571908581/disney-world-adds-trump-animatronic-figure-but-likeness-is-lacking[/url]

Disney World Adds Trump Animatronic Figure, But Likeness Is Lacking

lolololol...yikes

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[quote=mooby;1183450]I don't need to check Fox News, but I bet something on their front page is about some liberal politician harassment scandal.

It goes both ways Chico. When's the last time you saw coverage of innocent Muslims being killed on Fox News? How about that pro-Trump school kid from the SW killing his classmates? You already know what their focus is going to be on. You sit here acting like we should be getting outraged on it. If you don't like what their focus is, don't click. You click, the cycle continues. Quit being bated.[/quote]
He is the master at it though.(;))


:food-smil

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[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2017/12/20/president-trumps-successes-have-been-underreported-gary-varvel-column-nation-now/968842001/[/url]

When you take score, trump has come out relatively strong his first year...but his successes certainly have been underreported

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1183926][url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2017/12/20/president-trumps-successes-have-been-underreported-gary-varvel-column-nation-now/968842001/[/url]

When you take score, trump has come out relatively strong his first year...but his successes certainly have been underreported[/QUOTE]On policy and agenda I agree.

Unfortunately his negatives are just as strong when you are talking about his public persona, and hyperbole about his own greatness.
These points need to be addressed by him and his staff if his presidency is to turn into an overall positive.

I doubt they will be though.

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Act like a dick and you're going to get treated like one. He's made the media his #1 enemy since day one.

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[quote=mooby;1183450]I don't need to check Fox News, but I bet something on their front page is about some liberal politician harassment scandal.

It goes both ways Chico. When's the last time you saw coverage of innocent Muslims being killed on Fox News? How about that pro-Trump school kid from the SW killing his classmates? You already know what their focus is going to be on. You sit here acting like we should be getting outraged on it. If you don't like what their focus is, don't click. You click, the cycle continues. Quit being bated.[/quote]

Prince Harry coy about possible Obama wedding invite, Trump snub as 10 Downing stews

^^ current fox news headline.

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[quote=over the mountain;1184116]Prince Harry coy about possible Obama wedding invite, Trump snub as 10 Downing stews

^^ current fox news headline.[/quote]

Good, Trump is shit .

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[url=http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/28/media/vanity-fair-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html]Hillary Clinton supporters outraged at Vanity Fair, to President Trump's glee - Dec. 28, 2017[/url]

Hilarious...jokes about Hillary are deemed sexist? Whew, these snowflakes are on another level.

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Nice to see President Pussy Grabber is focused on the really important things

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[quote=MTK;1184279]Nice to see President Pussy Grabber is focused on the really important things[/quote]

Hillary need to leave the public eye...it’s time for the Clintons to move on.

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[quote=Chico23231;1184281]Hillary need to leave the public eye...it’s time for the Clintons to move on.[/quote]

Yes ,she does need to leave it but it is the GOP and trump supporters that keep bringing her up to deflect from trumps stupidity and ignorance.

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Interesting that at least per Rasmussen Trumps favorable/unfavorable matches Obama's at the end of his first year. 46/53.

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[quote=Chico23231;1184281]Hillary need to leave the public eye...it’s time for the Clintons to move on.[/quote]

Right, which is why she asked Vanity Fair to share that video advising her what to do in 2018.

Am I the only one who couldn't give less of a shit about a weak joke?

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1184296]Interesting that at least per Rasmussen Trumps favorable/unfavorable matches Obama's at the end of his first year. 46/53.[/QUOTE]


Well yeah Obama took over when the economy was in the tank so....

That also seems a little generous for Trump, it’s a very conservative leaning poll, but of course Trump pimps the results of that one while dismissing any other ones as “fake”

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1184296]Interesting that at least per Rasmussen Trumps favorable/unfavorable matches Obama's at the end of his first year. 46/53.[/quote]

Rasmussen relies heavily on landline calls for polling so their cross-reference of a community tends to be just what old people think. Election results I suppose are the only true indicator.

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[quote=over the mountain;1184311]Rasmussen relies heavily on landline calls for polling so their cross-reference of a community tends to be just what old people think.[/quote]

That's interesting. I have always looked at Rasmussen as fairly reliable.

Matty, I just found it interesting. Even in the Rasmussen poll the hate factor is incredibly high at 44% who strongly disapprove. So clearly the 46/53 isn't an amazing big time best ever poll - though once it hits Fox's headlines I am sure Trump will trumpet it and CNN will poo poo it.

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[quote=mooby;1184297]Right, which is why she asked Vanity Fair to share that video advising her what to do in 2018.

Am I the only one who couldn't give less of a shit about a weak joke?[/quote]

Well I’m saying I agree with mag article...move on. But Hillary’s re-emergence over the last several months has hurt the dems. But really, who is the leader of the Democratic Party? The vacuum filler shouldn’t be Hillary.

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[quote=over the mountain;1184311]Rasmussen relies heavily on landline calls for polling so their cross-reference of a community tends to be just what old people think. Election results I suppose are the only true indicator.[/quote]

[url=http://thehill.com/media/306721-rasmussen-calls-itself-most-accurate-pollster-of-2016]Rasmussen calls itself most accurate pollster of 2016 | TheHill[/url]

They were most accurate among major pollsters with the 2016 election.

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Hilary hanging around in the outskirts of the public eye is hardly the dems biggest problem

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1184312]That's interesting. I have always looked at Rasmussen as fairly reliable.



Matty, I just found it interesting. Even in the Rasmussen poll the hate factor is incredibly high at 44% who strongly disapprove. So clearly the 46/53 isn't an amazing big time best ever poll - though once it hits Fox's headlines I am sure Trump will trumpet it and CNN will poo poo it.[/QUOTE]


Oh he’s already all over it don’t worry about that, he tweeted about it yesterday

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[quote=Chico23231;1184314][url=http://thehill.com/media/306721-rasmussen-calls-itself-most-accurate-pollster-of-2016]Rasmussen calls itself most accurate pollster of 2016 | TheHill[/url]

They were most accurate among major pollsters with the 2016 election.[/quote]

Yes, they were the most accurate for the Trump win, predicting Hillary winning by 2%. I imagine since they exclude cell phones with their methodology, anytime a Republican wins they will be more accurate than not.

They were near the least accurate for every other election (somewhat of a guess)

If you dont think Rasmussen leans republican with their way of doing polling, I have to assume you also think Fox News is fair and balanced.

(I think there is media bias on both sides ...)

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In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!
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LOL it makes me cringe every time winter comes and conservatives use cold weather as exhibit A on why climate change is not real.

Record breaking weather is Exhibit A that climate change is real. "COLDEST New Year's Eve on record" ... is just another record that is being set. The stupidity of Trumps post is mind boggling.

"Last month also marked the hottest ever for August, which was also the 16th straight month to set a global heat record, according to Sánchez-Lugo.

The last time the Earth had a cooler-than-average month was December 1984, Sánchez-Lugo said. The "average" in this case is the average 20th-century temperature.

The first eight months of the year were also record warm, putting 2016 on track to be the warmest year on record."

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2016/09/20/earth-hottest-summer-record/90731548/[/url]

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What a shocker he doesn’t know the difference between climate and weather

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[quote=MTK;1184317]Oh he’s already all over it don’t worry about that, he tweeted about it yesterday[/quote]

And CNN has ignored it, so we are at Par.

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[quote=over the mountain;1184318]Yes, they were the most accurate for the Trump win, predicting Hillary winning by 2%. I imagine since they exclude cell phones with their methodology, anytime a Republican wins they will be more accurate than not.

They were near the least accurate for every other election (somewhat of a guess)

If you dont think Rasmussen leans republican with their way of doing polling, I have to assume you also think Fox News is fair and balanced.

(I think there is media bias on both sides ...)[/quote]

Well ur point was to simply dismiss the poll bc it actually is supportive of the trump presidency and since day one of the trump presidency there has been been a well documented effort by the media not only to discredit the president but to spread false narrative that no one in the country is behind the president and there generally no positive support for this president.

The Rasmussen poll was the most accurate period. So what you should questioning is why were the others generally off and some way off when it comes to historic polling. ???

When you speak of a biased, inaccurate, false poll....BUT SUPPORTS a narrative you want and THE MEDIA wants...then you can see how it is easier to see the spread of misinformation.

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Chico .. my point was that Rasmussen uses landlines, which means they tend to poll older people which tend to vote republican. Fox news spins right, CNN spins left. I accept both for what they are.

Sounds like you think Rasmussen and Fox News are on point, thats your call.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this will shock no one that I hold this view, but Climate Change is one the Democratic Party's greatest inventions. It is the equivalent of Religion to the right.

(RELIGION: You can't disprove it because FAITH, the effects are far off enough to be minimally impactful now, BUT if we don't fix it, the rapture/apocalypse will occur and we will be doomed - DOOOMED I TELL YOU. Because FAITH.)

Climate Change: You can't disprove it because SCIENCE, the effects are far off enough to be minimally impactful now, BUT if we don't fix it, the global tipping point will occur and we will be doomed - DOOOMED I TELL YOU. Because SCIENCE.

And, no I'm not denying an amount of climate change occurs, both naturally, and man-made, anymore than I am saying faith is wrong. I DO disagree with the doomsday prophecies of a slow occurring natural event over the pace of tech advancements.

Not to mention we might be better off if the west and east coasts of the US moved inland about 20 miles (LA downtown is about 16 miles from the ocean). :smashfreak:

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[quote=Chico23231;1184313]Well I’m saying I agree with mag article...move on. But Hillary’s re-emergence over the last several months has hurt the dems. But really, who is the leader of the Democratic Party? The vacuum filler shouldn’t be Hillary.[/quote]

Again it's the GOP that brings up Hillary as a deterrent or defector for trumps fuck ups.

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[quote=over the mountain;1184327]Chico .. my point was that Rasmussen uses landlines, which means they tend to poll older people which tend to vote republican. Fox news spins right, CNN spins left. I accept both for what they are.

Sounds like you think Rasmussen and Fox News are on point, thats your call.[/quote]

Lol ok...so ignore everything and say landliners...got it.

John Stewart is 100% right

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[quote=Chico23231;1184334]Lol ok...so ignore everything and say landliners...got it.

John Stewart is 100% right[/quote]

have a good weekend man ...

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1184323]And CNN has ignored it, so we are at Par.[/quote]

and right on cue:
[url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/29/politics/donald-trump-approval-rating/index.html]No, Trump's approval rating hasn't caught up to Obama's - CNNPolitics[/url]

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Well there’s definitely two sides to the story. Since when do we take the results of one poll as absolute fact?

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[quote=MTK;1184339]Well there’s definitely two sides to the story. Since when do we take the results of one poll as absolute fact?[/quote]

we don't, and I guess this thread has really kind of run it's course. Fact is, CNN, WP, NYT used to be touted as the gold standard of journalism, but it seems everyone acknowledges that at this point every media outlet has a preferred bias and since we know that we can account for it.

I just don't think the "gold standard" guys acknowledge it.

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[quote=MTK;1184339]Well there’s definitely two sides to the story. Since when do we take the results of one poll as absolute fact?[/quote]

Based on this past election where a majority were wayyyy off and the continuing approval ratings numbers given today...it’s fake news at this point.

Can’t be trusted as a source for reliable information. It’s simple

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/29/opinions/fbi-leadership-to-blame-for-tarnished-reputation-callan-opinion/index.html]Trump is right about the FBI (opinion) - CNN[/url]

This is a good article

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[quote=Chico23231;1184378][url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/29/opinions/fbi-leadership-to-blame-for-tarnished-reputation-callan-opinion/index.html]Trump is right about the FBI (opinion) - CNN[/url]

This is a good article[/quote]

CNN.......................,you?

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[quote=Giantone;1184379]CNN.......................,you?[/quote]

:biggthump