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Buffalo Bob 09-13-2019 08:27 AM

Re: Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1229823]VD is never a good blocker TBH.[/quote]

Was never that good and got worse by the year. With his measurables you would think he would have been great as a blocker.

Number44 09-13-2019 08:27 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1229815]Again, our TEs blocking still is an issue in the run game, ie VD on this play... no run game expert but if he blocks his guy it seems like it could've been a solid gain.

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I'm not happy with his blocking, but on this play it looks to me that he did a good job. Isn't that him riding his man back to the 20 yard line? Am I missing something?

FrenchSkin 09-13-2019 08:30 AM

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[QUOTE=Number44;1229826]I'm not happy with his blocking, but on this play it looks to me that he did a good job. Isn't that him riding his man back to the 20 yard line? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Nope, he barely touches his guy who makes the tackle for a short gain

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Chico23231 09-13-2019 08:35 AM

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VD is an athletic freak...but he has some bad drops and cant block. I called on this past offseason as a reset at the position, but nothing done. I hope this coming offseason, TE should be our primary focus along the Oline.

Im completely dumbfounded by Bruce's handling of Brandon Schreff...its gonna cost us more in the long run. We need to lock up our great/elite players. He is fucking this up big time, along with several other situations.

CRedskinsRule 09-13-2019 08:50 AM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1229829]VD is an athletic freak...but he has some bad drops and cant block. I called on this past offseason as a reset at the position, but nothing done. I hope this coming offseason, TE should be our primary focus along the Oline.



Im completely dumbfounded by Bruce's handling of Brandon Schreff...its gonna cost us more in the long run. We need to lock up our great/elite players. He is fucking this up big time, along with several other situations.[/QUOTE]Alot of teams will have this contract issue because the cba is up and players, especially in Scherffs situation, think the deals will be better under the new cba. And they are probably right.

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Schneed10 09-13-2019 08:52 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1229815]Again, our TEs blocking still is an issue in the run game, ie VD on this play... no run game expert but if he blocks his guy it seems like it could've been a solid gain.

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Great point and yes you can see #55 on the Eagles (Brandon Graham) chase Guice down from the back side of the play.

Graham is lined up inside Vernon which doesn't make Vernon's job easy, and Graham easily beats Vernon inside because of it, as you'd expect. But notice Graham is able to push Vernon two yards into the backfield immediately. Vernon is never going to seal Graham off on this play, the way Graham is aligned prevents it, but he at least needs to keep Graham from crossing to the Washington side of the line of scrimmage. He needs to stalemate Graham there and force him to run down the line of scrimmage, which would then let Guice get to the line of scrimmage before being contacted, and then you've got a shot at a 3 yard gain to keep the drive on schedule.

Vernon can't give ground so easily, doing so gave Graham the angle to meet Guice in the backfield and stop the play for no gain.

Number44 09-13-2019 10:17 AM

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1229828]Nope, he barely touches his guy who makes the tackle for a short gain

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Ok, thanks. I see now VD is lined up on the right side, not the left.

Ruhskins 09-13-2019 10:25 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1229831]Alot of teams will have this contract issue because the cba is up and players, especially in Scherffs situation, think the deals will be better under the new cba. And they are probably right.

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Yep, this looming CBA basically killed any chance at re-signing Schreff. Also, why Trent's stupid ass is not playing, but he's putting bullshit excuses.

sdskinsfan2001 09-13-2019 10:39 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1229842]Yep, this looming CBA basically killed any chance at re-signing Schreff. Also, why Trent's stupid ass is not playing, but he's putting bullshit excuses.[/quote]

As long as the new CBA still has the franchise tag, Scherff isn't going anywhere. If we can't get something done, we'll have to use it.

Ruhskins 09-13-2019 10:46 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1229851]As long as the new CBA still has the franchise tag, Scherff isn't going anywhere. If we can't get something done, we'll have to use it.[/quote]

And I think both sides are counting on that, but the point is that the new CBA is making things difficult to re-sign Schreff and it likely has little to do with the team or Schreff. So be ready to have Schreff on the tag until the new CBA gets done.

Chico23231 09-13-2019 10:58 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1229854]And I think both sides are counting on that, but the point is that the new CBA is making things difficult to re-sign Schreff and it likely has little to do with the team or Schreff. So be ready to have Schreff on the tag until the new CBA gets done.[/quote]

So you think the terrible low ball offer that Bruce made to Schreff's reps has nothing to do with the team? We just saw 2 Guards get extended with 51, 54 million dollar offers in the last month, the CBA didn't stop them. It will cost us more in the long run. Bruce's track record of franchise tag not good.

Ruhskins 09-13-2019 11:07 AM

Re: Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here
 
[quote=Chico23231;1229858]So you think the terrible low ball offer that Bruce made to Schreff's reps has nothing to do with the team? We just saw 2 Guards get extended with 51, 54 million dollar offers in the last month, the CBA didn't stop them. It will cost us more in the long run. Bruce's track record of franchise tag not good.[/quote]

Were these guards at the level of Schreff? Also, what was the offer and did you hear it from a reliable source? I mean we re-signed Matt I., but as good as I think he is, I don't think he's at Schreff's level.

Also, as long as Schreff wants to play here, we should be good with the tag for him.

BigHairedAristocrat 09-13-2019 11:32 AM

Re: Week 1 Loss - Post Thoughts Here
 
[quote=Chico23231;1229858]So you think [B]the terrible low ball offer [/B]that Bruce made to Schreff's reps has nothing to do with the team? We just saw 2 Guards get extended with 51, 54 million dollar offers in the last month, the CBA didn't stop them. It will cost us more in the long run. Bruce's track record of franchise tag not good.[/quote]

How do you know it was a terrible low ball offer?

Chico23231 09-13-2019 11:40 AM

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Reliable sources, it was a def a Bruce low ball special

Ruhskins 09-13-2019 01:14 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1229865]Reliable sources, it was a def a Bruce low ball special[/quote]

Is your reliable source The Junkies? Because that's the only place where it's been mentioned that the team offer was low.

Both NBC Sports Washington and PFT refer to the report by Hawk (which the Junkies mentioned), and while both places talk about the two sides being far apart, they don't mention anything about a low offer.


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