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jamf 10-06-2023 11:05 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=nonniey;1348191]EB doesn't bother me too much when looking at all the games, overall, the offense is probably over performing given how horrendous the OL is (complete lack of talent there which I primarily blame Ron for). Additionally, it is refreshing to see in game adjustments again after so many years.[/quote]

Agreed, EB would be able to run a full offense with Brissett at QB.
Instead we have to do high school plays for Howell.
The bears had 3 dbs out and the worst secondary in the nfl.
SomeHowell we couldnt complete shit downfield.

Meks 10-06-2023 11:10 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1348198]Agreed, EB would be able to run a full offense with Brissett at QB.
Instead we have to do high school plays for Howell.
The bears had 3 dbs out and the worst secondary in the nfl.
SomeHowell we couldnt complete shit downfield.[/quote]

LMAO ....

watched every single brissett browns game last year. No thanks, no shot, i wish you the best with your opinion and train of thought

the BROWNS org... the BROWNS.... let him walk, watson or no watson he has trouble staying healthy, too.... the BROWNS ..... fans were ESTATIC that brissett was gone. My best friend is a die hard browns fan ive been saying this since pre season, i dont know wtf anyone sees in this dude but i watched him suck HORRIDLY last year.

Meks 10-06-2023 11:13 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
you cant run the ball 6 times and be successful in this league. playing from behind or not. I bet the KC didnt have numbers that low and no, they werent always blowing teams out milking the clock.

between pacheo & mckinnon alone, avg was 15 attempts per game. No including C.E.H. and designed mahomes or reverses etc.

6 is in-excusbale and an ugly trend for EB

So is lining up in the same formation every play. I dgaf where the WR's line up smh.... its a joke, then he puts terry into a split back with his hand in the dirt on 3rd and short - LMFAO. he needs to get it together and fast or he'll be looking for a new job end of year

EB offensive philosophy has fallen out a favor with me HARD.

run the fuckin ball.

SFREDSKIN 10-06-2023 11:45 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Meks;1348202]you cant run the ball 6 times and be successful in this league. playing from behind or not. I bet the KC didnt have numbers that low and no, they werent always blowing teams out milking the clock.

between pacheo & mckinnon alone, avg was 15 attempts per game. No including C.E.H. and designed mahomes or reverses etc.

6 is in-excusbale and an ugly trend for EB

So is lining up in the same formation every play. I dgaf where the WR's line up smh.... its a joke, then he puts terry into a split back with his hand in the dirt on 3rd and short - LMFAO. he needs to get it together and fast or he'll be looking for a new job end of year

EB offensive philosophy has fallen out a favor with me HARD.

run the fuckin ball.[/quote]

They were in a hole and trying to catch up.

Chief X_Phackter 10-06-2023 11:53 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348207]They were in a hole and trying to catch up.[/quote]

Yeah, they were in a hole because the offense managed 3 goddamn points in the first half against a terrible defense. Punt, punt, field goal, interception, end of the half.

SFREDSKIN 10-06-2023 11:58 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348209]Yeah, they were in a hole because the offense managed 3 goddamn points in the first half against a terrible defense. Punt, punt, field goal, interception, end of the half.[/quote]

Can’t blame it solely on Howell, team lack of effort

Chief X_Phackter 10-06-2023 12:01 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348210]Can’t blame it solely on Howell, team lack of effort[/quote]

Who blamed it solely on Howell?

AnonEmouse 10-06-2023 12:28 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
I wouldn't blame any of it on Howell. He didn't miss gap assignments, miss tackles or blow coverages.

BaltimoreSkins 10-06-2023 12:36 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
He takes some blame. Definitely didn't lead receivers well and held on to the ball too long last night.

sdskinsfan2001 10-06-2023 12:40 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
I think Howell is doing as well as could be expected. It was his 6th game, and he plays for one of the worst teams in the NFL, with one of the worst OL's in the NFL. He has room for improvement, for sure, in-terms of getting rid of the ball and anticipating routes being opened, but I think that's to be expected at this point in his career.

BaltimoreSkins 10-06-2023 12:46 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
For the record I have no problem with Sam. However, QBs are your leader he wears the C

AnonEmouse 10-06-2023 12:50 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Maybe some, but very little. He didn't lose us the game.

skinsfaninok 10-06-2023 12:56 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Jam hates Howell lol


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skinsfaninok 10-06-2023 12:58 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Again where was 17? I’m a huge Terry fan like all of us but if you are THAT DUDE then you make plays. He literally has had one good game out of 5 all season.

He’s a WR2 folks but we don’t want to admit it because he’s so beloved


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Chief X_Phackter 10-06-2023 01:05 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
He can't throw himself the ball. Receivers are open, by NFL standards, and he and others have already proven they don't need to be "open" to make a play.

PorkSkins 10-06-2023 02:02 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348231]He can't throw himself the ball. Receivers are open, by NFL standards, and he and others have already proven they don't need to be "open" to make a play.[/quote]

Several of us reiterated that to him last night. McLaurin has proven in his brief career that's he's a WR1 even with average-to-decent QBs. Football guys has him rated in the top 10-15 wideouts in the league. The receivers are getting open, but Howell isn't exactly force feeding any particular receiver and he frequently will waste an opportunity due to indecisiveness.

If Howell were to volume-toss to McLaurin then he'd change his tune about him being a WR2. Then again, it seems like this is the hill he wanna die on.

Meks 10-06-2023 02:07 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
The scheme also gives you reads and majority of the time if read 1 ISN'T Terry, Sam has to throw to read 1 who's open before he gets pummeled. The system did not look Terry's way last night you could see it on the field

Chief X_Phackter 10-06-2023 02:35 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
On his current pace, Howell would be sacked 99 times this season.

PorkSkins 10-06-2023 03:00 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348248]On his current pace, Howell would be sacked 99 times this season.[/quote]

They'll be burying him in Arlington Cemetery, afterwards.

AnonEmouse 10-06-2023 03:37 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
I totally agree with this:
[URL="https://riggosrag.com/posts/4-major-observations-sam-howell-performance-bears-week-5"]https://riggosrag.com/posts/4-major-observations-sam-howell-performance-bears-week-5[/URL]

SFREDSKIN 10-06-2023 03:44 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1348261]I totally agree with this:
[URL="https://riggosrag.com/posts/4-major-observations-sam-howell-performance-bears-week-5"]https://riggosrag.com/posts/4-major-observations-sam-howell-performance-bears-week-5[/URL][/quote]

Article is right on the money, I could have written it.

SolidSnake84 10-06-2023 06:50 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1348248]On his current pace, Howell would be sacked 99 times this season.[/quote]

I like Sam Howell but the damage he is taking every week I worry he is going to get shell shocked like David Carr, if he does not end up getting injured before then from being hit / sacked so much every game.

EB's schemes so far are getting Howell killed out there. I doubt RR could think up anything better....

Chief X_Phackter 10-06-2023 07:09 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Agreed. Maybe along with D coordinator, we should be looking for an O-line coach...someone who can get these fuckers on the same page, use better technique, something.

punch it in 10-06-2023 08:22 PM

The Sam Howell Thread
 
We need coaches and players. Right now we have no staff (nobody else was coming here under Dan, that is all about to change), and on our 53 man roster right now I think maybe 20 are keepers. Obviously more than 20 are coming back hopefully a new staff gets more out of them. Outside wr’s/rb’s and d line shit gets real weak real fast. Quarterback seems ok. Im praying Harris gets some true football minds in here and next year isn’t another building year, that instead they make us consistently competitive right away. We got quite a train wreck on our hands because of that dude who skipped town with his billions.

jamf 10-07-2023 02:07 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1348261]I totally agree with this:
[URL="https://riggosrag.com/posts/4-major-observations-sam-howell-performance-bears-week-5"]https://riggosrag.com/posts/4-major-observations-sam-howell-performance-bears-week-5[/URL][/quote]

Howell starts the game playing like shit but it’s on the D for putting him in a hole?

Howell supporters need to officially come out of the closet with how hard you guys ride his dick.
Just admit you love his beard. Reminds you of the time you loved George Michael in Wham.

Meks 10-07-2023 03:01 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[url]https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyBohQVJo1m/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==[/url]

Yea but guys, he's not elite.

Meks 10-07-2023 05:05 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1348295]Howell starts the game playing like shit but it’s on the D for putting him in a hole?

Howell supporters need to officially come out of the closet with how hard you guys ride his dick.
Just admit you love his beard. Reminds you of the time you loved George Michael in Wham.[/quote]

I need you to stow this absolutely preposterous shit about QB1 asap. No matter how many blatantly obvious facts or stats that are put in front of you - you hate this kid.

Just give it up jam. If anyone obsessed with his beard it's clearly you cuz that is prolly the first time pn this boa4d Sam's facial hair got mentioned since he was drafted. Just stop, kids a rookie and his coaching staff fucking sucks calling 55 straight pass plays from early in the 2nd. The only time I've ever seen 2 ppl other than the qb in the backfield TERRY was lined up at split back with HIS HAND IN THE DIRT, on 3rd and 1 (3 yd loss and punt)... so don't tell me that the routes that take 5 seconds to come thorough when he has a line that gives him 2 secs on avg and 4 secs MAX is his fault. ......

Sorry, stop blaming howell you may as well bring Wentz back with your attitude. Talk about a sack record.

WCommandersfan99 10-07-2023 06:57 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Howell is not the problem. He has plenty of talent to be a good NFL qb. The problem is clearly the oline and the defense. We knew the oline may have issues, but I don't think anyone forecasted the defensive issues. Frustrating.

rocnrik 10-07-2023 09:02 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
The problem is and continues to be In order
Whoever is making decisions on draft picks/free agency then Head Coach, D Cordinator, OL,LB,DB …. Howell is way down the list ..

jamf 10-07-2023 01:47 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
I’m just glad this will all be blown up.
Jiffy lube will be out of the league along with Ron and Jack Del Taco.

sdskinsfan2001 10-07-2023 03:13 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=Meks;1348297]I need you to stow this absolutely preposterous shit about QB1 asap. No matter how many blatantly obvious facts or stats that are put in front of you - you hate this kid.

Just give it up jam. If anyone obsessed with his beard it's clearly you cuz that is prolly the first time pn this boa4d Sam's facial hair got mentioned since he was drafted. Just stop, kids a rookie and his coaching staff fucking sucks calling 55 straight pass plays from early in the 2nd. The only time I've ever seen 2 ppl other than the qb in the backfield TERRY was lined up at split back with HIS HAND IN THE DIRT, on 3rd and 1 (3 yd loss and punt)... so don't tell me that the routes that take 5 seconds to come thorough when he has a line that gives him 2 secs on avg and 4 secs MAX is his fault. ......

Sorry, stop blaming howell you may as well bring Wentz back with your attitude. Talk about a sack record.[/quote]

Howell for sure banged Jamf's favorite stripper. That has to be it.

rocnrik 10-07-2023 08:48 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Sam will be fine .. either here or another team ! You put him behind a good Oline and he will be outstanding! Anyone who can’t see that doesn’t deserve to get in a debate .. they have other issues to deal with 😀

mooby 10-07-2023 10:40 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
Howell is going to have growing pains. Not every qb comes in and tears it up from their first start.

He needs to work on his decision making and getting the ball out quicker - this offensive line is not good enough for him to stand back there 3-5 seconds before throwing the ball.

I put the blame on everybody for Thursdays performance, I don't think anyone had a good game. Even Bieniemy called like 55 consecutive passing plays at one point.

jamf 10-08-2023 12:48 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=rocnrik;1348319]Sam will be fine .. either here or another team ! You put him behind a good Oline and he will be outstanding! Anyone who can’t see that doesn’t deserve to get in a debate .. they have other issues to deal with 😀[/quote]

I’m keeping receipts on all you bums. When Sam Howell is at Jiffy Lube changing my oil, I’ll be FaceTiming all of you.

PorkSkins 10-08-2023 09:38 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1348321]I’m keeping receipts on all you bums. When Sam Howell is at Jiffy Lube changing my oil, I’ll be FaceTiming all of you.[/quote]

Troll much.... You may need a forum "time out."

Meks 10-08-2023 11:34 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1348321]I’m keeping receipts on all you bums. When Sam Howell is at Jiffy Lube changing my oil, I’ll be FaceTiming all of you.[/quote]

Lolllll I would roll

jamf 10-09-2023 12:04 AM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1348310]Howell for sure banged Jamf's favorite stripper. That has to be it.[/quote]

Well shit, who hasn’t. 😂

SFREDSKIN 10-09-2023 08:12 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[url]https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/sam-howell-making-case-to-be-washington-commanders-franchise-qb/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ[/url]

Meks 10-09-2023 08:59 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1348455][url]https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/sam-howell-making-case-to-be-washington-commanders-franchise-qb/?mibextid=Zxz2cZ[/url][/quote]

Say what you want about Jay but it's a straight forward and accurate analysis.

sdskinsfan2001 10-09-2023 09:53 PM

Re: The Sam Howell Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1348390]Well shit, who hasn’t. 😂[/quote]

When Howell brings us to the playoffs in 2024, we're going to go see some east coast glitties together. You fly out here, I have an extra room, I'll buy us some lap dances lol.

LET'S GO HOWELL!


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