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skinsfaninok 01-01-2017 07:21 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
O well back to back winning seasons is still good

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sandtrapjack 01-01-2017 07:22 PM

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Wow. Just.....wow.

DynamiteRave 01-01-2017 07:22 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[QUOTE=punch it in;1160793]There is no way KC is getting paid. We cannot even franchise him. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't be surprised if they let him walk. Dude is medicore. He'll eek you to the playoffs if he's lucky but he'll never take you to the promised land.

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sdskinsfan2001 01-01-2017 07:23 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1160796]I def think we gained some leverage in the negotiations with cousins down the stretch. He don't play well when we needed him too.[/quote]

Do we want a QB for any price who is a proven loser when it counts? He is a chucker. He gets antsy and just chucks it. It was 1st and 10 across the 50, and he chucks a floater over the middle. And no one is suprised. You can't trust him in 4th quarters.

CASKINS 01-01-2017 07:23 PM

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I cannot wait to see tomorrow morning so many firings. Joe Barry kirk cousins

Skinsfanatic 01-01-2017 07:23 PM

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Just good enough to get a mid-round 1st draft pick.

skinsfaninok 01-01-2017 07:24 PM

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Guys kirk isn't going anywhere but he won't get 25M a year

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sdskinsfan2001 01-01-2017 07:24 PM

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I started off the year leaning towards letting him walk, but over the course of the season he tricked me. But he went right back to being his choking self again against Carolina and New York. What a dumb fucking pass.

htownskinfan 01-01-2017 07:25 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1160807]Guys kirk isn't going anywhere but he won't get 25M a year

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No he will get 24 mill

TheMalcolmConnection 01-01-2017 07:25 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
Like I said in another thread: were being greedy. The team is so much better now. Cousins fucked up but he's worth an extension. Someone take out the cowboys and Giants and we'll see everyone for the draft.

I thought 2017 was supposed to be better. 😄

Chico23231 01-01-2017 07:25 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;1160801]Wow. Just.....wow.[/quote]

Meh...I wouldn't say wow. We didn't earn it today, or this year. We have a nice core.

Y'all better pray you don't see the gmen, they got your number. But you know that

J. Falcon 01-01-2017 07:26 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1160805]Just good enough to get a mid-round 1st draft pick.[/quote]

We can't trade Cousins

punch it in 01-01-2017 07:26 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1160803]Do we want a QB for any price who is a proven loser when it counts? He is a chucker. He gets antsy and just chucks it. It was 1st and 10 across the 50, and he chucks a floater over the middle. And no one is suprised. You can't trust him in 4th quarters.[/QUOTE]



Yeah i know im pissed off rite now but that was such an all time head scratcher of a throw.
He will never shake the inability to think straight when it matters. We are screwed. Gruden needs to go and so does this entire staff. Our D aint no good. The Giants offense is terrible. Has been all year. OBJ didn't even play in the second half. We allowed them their first hundred yard rusher of the season. We got about 8-9 must keep guys. We got no QB. We got no coaching staff. Screwed.

Skinsfanatic 01-01-2017 07:27 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=J. Falcon;1160812]We can't trade Cousins[/quote]

No, I mean the team played just well enough to get a mid-round 1st round pick in the draft but not make the playoffs.

skinsfan69 01-01-2017 07:27 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1160807]Guys kirk isn't going anywhere but he won't get 25M a year

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Seriously. WTF is wrong with some of you drunk asses? Who the fuck are your other options at Qb? Da Faq outta here with this get rid of Cousins talk.

sandtrapjack 01-01-2017 07:27 PM

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If a QB with Cousins stats hit the open market, he would not be an FA for more than 24 hours.

Get used to the fact that Cousins will stay in DC. Now, just go out and build some more talent around him.

OnceWeWereKings 01-01-2017 07:28 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=Chico23231;1160796]I def think we gained some leverage in the negotiations with cousins down the stretch. He don't play well when we needed him too.[/quote]

The question is, do you want a guy who can't get you there because of the pressure? A LA Tony romo...

Irrefutable 01-01-2017 07:28 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1160807]Guys kirk isn't going anywhere but he won't get 25M a year

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look at what Flacco is getting.... KC is much better

[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco-4000/]Joe Flacco Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac[/url]

J. Falcon 01-01-2017 07:28 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1160814]No, I mean the team played just well enough to get a mid-round 1st round pick in the draft but not make the playoffs.[/quote]

Gotcha, sorry. Wish we could though lol

SirLK26 01-01-2017 07:29 PM

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Anyone who puts missing the playoffs on Kirk is a fucking moron. This defense was putrid all year long and cost us game after game. Yes they stepped up today but its too little too late. Kirk is a baller, the best QB this team has had in a LONG time. Without him we maybe win 5 games this year

skinsfan69 01-01-2017 07:29 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=Skinsfanatic;1160814]No, I mean the team played just well enough to get a mid-round 1st round pick in the draft but not make the playoffs.[/quote]

FYI... Darrell Green was the last 1st rounder picked in the 83 draft. Dan Marino was second to last. That draft pick stuff is BS. Good football players in all rounds of the draft

OnceWeWereKings 01-01-2017 07:30 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1160818]look at what Flacco is getting.... KC is much better

[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco-4000/]Joe Flacco Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac[/url][/quote]

Yea...but he got the contract directly after winning a super bowl. If the Ravens don't win it that year, Flacco doesn't get that contract.

punch it in 01-01-2017 07:30 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1160815]Seriously. WTF is wrong with some of you drunk asses? Who the fuck are your other options at Qb? Da Faq outta here with this get rid of Cousins talk.[/QUOTE]



So we keep him if the price is right. Which would be about 17 a year imo. Than we have a stop gap quarterback until we find one mentally strong enough to win. Whatever.
Some other team like the Jags or Browns will offer him 22 and we will say see you later.

Evilgrin 01-01-2017 07:31 PM

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Your defense isn't gonna be good if 2/3 of your Cap is on offense... Don't let the offense off the hook for not showing up in big games. Still the schedule was brutal, and they probaby finished about where the should have.

Skinsfanatic 01-01-2017 07:31 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1160822]FYI... Darrell Green was the last 1st rounder picked in the 83 draft. Dan Marino was second to last. That draft pick stuff is BS. Good football players in all rounds of the draft[/quote]

Good players being drafted late doesn't make your likelihood of getting a better player earlier BS.

sdskinsfan2001 01-01-2017 07:31 PM

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Cousins has done enough to justify signing him and enough to justify letting him walk. It really is a 50/50 decision that the fate of the franchise for at least the next few years depends on. I don't envy SM.

CASKINS 01-01-2017 07:31 PM

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What qb is set to hit the fa market. Because as horrible ad our d was he gets Paid to lead us to a win in these situations and he didn't

CASKINS 01-01-2017 07:33 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
You sign kirk for 17m and keep both Garcon and Jackson

sandtrapjack 01-01-2017 07:33 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=punch it in;1160824]So we keep him if the price is right. Which would be about 17 a year imo. Than we have a stop gap quarterback until we find one mentally strong enough to win. Whatever.
Some other team like the Jags or Browns will offer him 22 and we will say see you later.[/quote]
And how many teams in the league need a QB? Pay Cousins 17 mil, and Chicago, Jacksonville, New York Jets, and probably 5 other teams will be HAPPY to pay him 19 mill.

Worst case scenario is Cousins gets tagged again.

He's not leaving.

punch it in 01-01-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
Just a game. I hope you all have a healthy prosperous 2017!

FrenchSkin 01-01-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
The almost team. That's what we are right now. We can get there next season. Don't know if we will, but we can.

Chico23231 01-01-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
So glad I have off tomorrow so I won't have to deal with some shithead coworkers

OnceWeWereKings 01-01-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=SirLK26;1160821]Anyone who puts missing the playoffs on Kirk is a fuckin moron.[/quote]

Yea...but today was the one that counted. We can also say that the Carolina game would have given us enough wins to get in and he didn't handle that well. The first game or 2 he looked like shit. I don't think it's moronic at all to question if he's a headache that can't win a big game. This is the game that counted for cousins, and he fucking bricked it. Quite literally threw it away. It's fucking moronic to discount that. Stats mean nothing if you can't do your job when it counts.

warriorzpath 01-01-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
Just sign cousins to 20 plus million and keep him until you find another qb. Then trade him

punch it in 01-01-2017 07:34 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;1160830]And how many teams in the league need a QB? Pay Cousins 17 mil, and Chicago, Jacksonville, New York Jets, and probably 5 other teams will be HAPPY to pay him 19 mill.



Worst case scenario is Cousins gets tagged again.



He's not leaving.[/QUOTE]



That is exactly what i said. No way im tagging him for all that money next year. No way.

warriorzpath 01-01-2017 07:35 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
... that easy

skinsfan69 01-01-2017 07:36 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;1160816]If a QB with Cousins stats hit the open market, he would not be an FA for more than 24 hours.

Get used to the fact that Cousins will stay in DC. Now, just go out and build some more talent around him.[/quote]

Some common sense coming from a Cowboy fan.

htownskinfan 01-01-2017 07:36 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=Irrefutable;1160818]look at what Flacco is getting.... KC is much better

[url=http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco-4000/]Joe Flacco Contract Details, Salary Cap Breakdowns, Salaries, Bonuses | Spotrac[/url][/quote]

Yeah thats debatable,Flacco doesnt choke in the big games,Cousins wilts under pressure

warriorzpath 01-01-2017 07:37 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
That would buy time to see if he ever develops or if you can find someone else.

Alvin Walton 01-01-2017 07:37 PM

Re: Happy New Year- Skins vs Giants gameday thread!
 
[quote=punch it in;1160813]Yeah i know im pissed off rite now but that was such an all time head scratcher of a throw.
He will never shake the inability to think straight when it matters. We are screwed. Gruden needs to go and so does this entire staff. Our D aint no good. The Giants offense is terrible. Has been all year. OBJ didn't even play in the second half. We allowed them their first hundred yard rusher of the season. We got about 8-9 must keep guys. We got no QB. We got no coaching staff. Screwed.[/quote]

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