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[quote=Giantone;1182524]chico, they got a date wrong and corrected it.You're more like trump every day.[/quote]

Don’t be lazy g1.read the article:

“The date matters. CNN’s report indicated that the Trump campaign had been fed hacked email files belonging to the Democratic National Committee and former secretary of state Colin Powell more than a week before the files were released publicly.

More important, the later date means that the email did not provide the Trump campaign with early access to WikiLeaks documents after all. The DNC files shared with Trump Jr. via a link and a “decryption key” on Sept. 14, 2016, had been posted online and advertised on Twitter by WikiLeaks the day before. And the Powell files had been posted online hours before Trump Jr. received the email from a person who identified himself as Michael J. Erickson.”


One of the reporters actually was on cnn spewing this bullshit..so did he come back later to apologize for error? He should. He should be brought back on the air and explain why cnn has errored time and time again when lying about the Russian probe.

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[quote=Chico23231;1182525]Don’t be lazy g1.read the article:

“The date matters. CNN’s report indicated that the Trump campaign had been fed hacked email files belonging to the Democratic National Committee and former secretary of state Colin Powell more than a week before the files were released publicly.

More important, the later date means that the email did not provide the Trump campaign with early access to WikiLeaks documents after all. The DNC files shared with Trump Jr. via a link and a “decryption key” on Sept. 14, 2016, had been posted online and advertised on Twitter by WikiLeaks the day before. And the Powell files had been posted online hours before Trump Jr. received the email from a person who identified himself as Michael J. Erickson.”


One of the reporters actually was on cnn spewing this bullshit..so did he come back later to apologize for error? He should. He should be brought back on the air and explain why cnn has errored time and time again when lying about the Russian probe.[/quote]



Yes , a reporter made a mistake and the network corrected it.How many times has trump said the wrong thing or doesn't that matter to you?You are so concerned about the media you let the president get away with lying all the time(talk about lazy) and you never, never, call him on it.



Retractions have been going on since the invention of the "printing press".,move on.

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[quote=Giantone;1182526]Yes , a reporter made a mistake and the network corrected it.How many times has trump said the wrong thing or doesn't that matter to you?You are so concerned about the media you let the president get away with lying all the time(talk about lazy) and you never, never, call him on it.



Retractions have been going on since the invention of the "printing press".,move on.[/quote]

It's not just the lying, it's the constant flip flopping. How many Presidential Twitter statements has he made that directly contradict things he said when he wasn't President?

If only there was[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/top/"] a resource that tracked it[/URL].

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[quote=mooby;1182527]It's not just the lying, it's the constant flip flopping. How many Presidential Twitter statements has he made that directly contradict things he said when he wasn't President?

If only there was[URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/TrumpCriticizesTrump/top/"] a resource that tracked it[/URL].[/quote]

[url=http://www.people-press.org/2017/12/07/stark-partisan-divisions-over-russia-probe-including-its-importance-to-the-nation/]Stark Partisan Divisions Over Russia Probe, Including Its Importance to the Nation | Pew Research Center[/url]



[url]http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/12/07170424/12-07-17-Political-release.pdf[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1182559][url=http://www.people-press.org/2017/12/07/stark-partisan-divisions-over-russia-probe-including-its-importance-to-the-nation/]Stark Partisan Divisions Over Russia Probe, Including Its Importance to the Nation | Pew Research Center[/url]



[url]http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/12/07170424/12-07-17-Political-release.pdf[/url][/quote]

[url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-blasts-washington-post-writer-fake-news-tweet-012249141.html[/url]

Trump Blasts Washington Post Writer for ‘Fake News’ Tweet, Calls for His Firing

So take a look at this...this is why not only why fake news is bad but how quickly bad the news travels between supposed legit news orgs. This picture originated from some garbage site Daily Mail and from editor David Martosko who passed it on to this reporter for the WAPO who posted it. Then CNN posted this same picture and tweet on its front page.

So it spreads quick of course...now it was only a joke from the wapo reporter. That’s simply not good enough these days. Sorry...while this isn’t Fire-able, it’s important to watch how this crap spreads and misinforms...

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[quote=Chico23231;1182561][url]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-blasts-washington-post-writer-fake-news-tweet-012249141.html[/url]

Trump Blasts Washington Post Writer for ‘Fake News’ Tweet, Calls for His Firing

So take a look at this...this is why not only why fake news is bad but how quickly bad the news travels between supposed legit news orgs. This picture originated from some garbage site Daily Mail and from editor David Martosko who passed it on to this reporter for the WAPO who posted it. Then CNN posted this same picture and tweet on its front page.

So it spreads quick of course...now it was only a joke from the wapo reporter. That’s simply not good enough these days. Sorry...while this isn’t Fire-able, it’s important to watch how this crap spreads and misinforms...[/quote]

My favorite part was when Trump demanded an apology and a retraction, got both from the journalist himself, then decided he needed to be fired. And now with Trump calling him out, it's assured the retraction and apology will definitely get more attention than the original tweet too.

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[url]https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/[/url]

This is a good article from mostly a liberal leaning site

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It’s just funny that a guy who constantly spews lies wants us to believe that the media is more full of shit than him.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21745105/marshall-faulk-trio-suspended-nfl-network]Marshall Faulk among trio suspended by NFL Network[/url]

Looks like an entire media channel...nfl network... involved in sexual harassment. From executive down to the 'talent'.

Ill be tuning into big time snowflake Rich Eisen radio show to hear his bullshit excuse for the network. He's really in spreading false narratives with his faux outrage....It will be interesting to hear him explain how so many were involved with a network where he is basically the a rung under the top guy.

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[url]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cnn-raj-shah-photo-mixup_us_5a2eb5c9e4b06e3bccf2f11d[/url]

CNN ‘Fake News’ After Outlet Mixed Up 2 Indian-Americans

more mistakes by CNN...having a really really bad week getting it right. that's why it cant be a trusted source for news.

could you imagine the "clap back" if Fox mixed up indian-americans....lawd. I could hear it now...

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Seems more like a mistake than “fake news”

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[quote=MTK;1183039]Seems more like a mistake than “fake news”[/quote]

You just know there's some background staffer at CNN sitting there who was like "oh damn I grabbed the wrong photo" meanwhile we're sitting here like "this is why you can't trust the media, they intentionally get the photo wrong!" lol.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1183043]You just know there's some background staffer at CNN sitting there who was like "oh damn I grabbed the wrong photo" meanwhile we're sitting here like "this is why you can't trust the media, they intentionally get the photo wrong!" lol.[/QUOTE]



And the WH couldn’t wait to pounce

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[quote=MTK;1183039]Seems more like a mistake than “fake news”[/quote]

agree...but remember if Fox news would have made the same mistake, CNN would have an article on the front page claiming "All Indian Americans Look the Same to FOX News" and of course claim some sort of racism inside the link.

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[quote=MTK;1183045]And the WH couldn’t wait to pounce[/quote]

Why should they? CNN has consistently published false/wrong/misleading information about the Trump White House, and then publishes a retraction after the fact.

If you had someone who once had credibility constantly telling your peers wrong information you wouldn't put up with it. If Fox News puts out false information the entire media world lines up to point it out, SNL does skits about it, and the Hollywood/Media pundits shake their heads and say wow they are racist/misogynistic/dumb etc. Damn Skippy the White House ought to point it out. I'll change my opinion when SNL starts doing skits about CNN, and when CNN puts out false information about HC without front page retractions.

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Eh whatever

We heard plenty of lies about Obama for 8 years, just how this stuff works

When was the last time this WH owned up to anything?

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[quote=MTK;1183065]Eh whatever

We heard plenty of lies about Obama for 8 years, just how this stuff works

When was the last time this WH owned up to anything?[/quote]

Show me one sketch in 8 years from SNL or the Daily Show mocking Obama or pushing false narratives about Obama?

I won't wait up.

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1183067]Show me one sketch in 8 years from SNL or the Daily Show mocking Obama or pushing false narratives about Obama?



I won't wait up.[/QUOTE]


You don’t think SNL made fun of Obama at all? Just google SNL mocks Obama.

As far as false narratives FOX News had that covered more than well enough.

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Where's the damn birth certificate Matty? #Notmypresident.

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[quote=MTK;1183069]You don’t think SNL made fun of Obama at all?

As far as false narratives FOX News had that covered more than well enough.[/quote]

Not in a negative connotation, no.
this is a compilation of obama skits, there barely is one disrespectful humor towards him - they pick on his ticks, or speaking habits, but for example look at theRock Obama, or the Boehner clip
[url=http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/playlist/barack-obama-collection-208696]Barack Obama Collection from Saturday Night Live - NBC.com[/url]

Fox never has been what CNN used to be regarded as (which was a credible source for unbiased news). If you are accepting that CNN has become a politicized opinion based news channel, then fine, that is the basic premise behind this whole thread, that what used to be JOURNALISTIC institutions are now part and parcel of the political hack system of media.

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Does it need to be spelled out why Trump is mocked in a different way than Obama was by SNL?

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[quote=MTK;1183089]Does it need to be spelled out why Trump is mocked in a different way than Obama was by SNL?[/quote]

It's not just Trump vs Obama, it's liberal vs conservative, look at the one called theRock Obama. The republican group is treated as dork/no nothing idiots over their stance on Israel policy vs Obama as the Hulk/Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Or the Boehner Obama compromise clip. Again, Boehner looks like a moron, and Obama looks like a parent who has to be kind to the slow kid. It is the same across the media spectrum and across the span of recent history. Pretty sure you can find similar clips of Bush/Gore, Clinton/Gingrich, etc. That is why the thread is called media bias.

It doesn't bother you because it aligns with your world view. It bothers the bejebus out of me that it's so blatant, and treated like it doesn't happen.

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I thought liberals were the snowflakes?

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[QUOTE=MTK;1183098]I thought liberals were the snowflakes?[/QUOTE]The millenials are the snowflakes. Many also are liberals

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183100]The millenials are the snowflakes. Many also are liberals[/quote]

BS, trump has made me this way.I am no "millenial".

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183075]Not in a negative connotation, no.
this is a compilation of obama skits, there barely is one disrespectful humor towards him - they pick on his ticks, or speaking habits, but for example look at theRock Obama, or the Boehner clip
[url=http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/playlist/barack-obama-collection-208696]Barack Obama Collection from Saturday Night Live - NBC.com[/url]

Fox never has been what CNN used to be regarded as (which was a credible source for unbiased news). If you are accepting that CNN has become a politicized opinion based news channel, then fine, that is the basic premise behind this whole thread, that what used to be JOURNALISTIC institutions are now part and parcel of the political hack system of media.[/quote]



Whoa, we need to separate here ,stop pulling a Chico and step back.

Are you talking News programs(mostly OpED piece's) or Nightly News shows,there is a difference. SNL is a comedy show that has made fun of all Presidents since it's inception and should not be in the mix of the conversation.Political satire is not a news show and can be as biased as they want.





Seems to me they have gone after everyone they could have,

[url]https://parade.com/511388/michelewojciechowski/40-years-of-saturday-night-live-presidential-parodies/[/url]


[url]https://www.theodysseyonline.com/saturday-night-live-presidential-2008-2016[/url]

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1183091]It's not just Trump vs Obama, it's liberal vs conservative, look at the one called theRock Obama. The republican group is treated as dork/no nothing idiots over their stance on Israel policy vs Obama as the Hulk/Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Or the Boehner Obama compromise clip. Again, Boehner looks like a moron, and Obama looks like a parent who has to be kind to the slow kid. It is the same across the media spectrum and across the span of recent history. Pretty sure you can find similar clips of Bush/Gore, Clinton/Gingrich, etc. That is why the thread is called media bias.



It doesn't bother you because it aligns with your world view. It bothers the bejebus out of me that it's so blatant, and treated like it doesn't happen.[/QUOTE]



It’s not Trump vs Obama or Libs vs Cons. Its that some people are such blatant assholes that they deserve to be made fun of. The bigger an Asshole the more fun to be made.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183100]The millenials are the snowflakes. Many also are liberals[/quote]

Sometimes, but snowflakes are people who either abide by a faux-outrage social media driven culture where overly sensitive people appears to offended by the smallest stimulus, or they proactively seekout to find a negative in any action or behavior. Words and pictures hurt. In their world, a one second snapshot explains everything because they can contextualize it to whatever every they want. Or they believe in a pc driven culture where everyone and everything fits a certain role...if something, someone, or some idea doesn’t fit that norm it’s easily dismissed as incorrect. They tend to go with the crowd. Independent freedom or thought...is not accepted. Echo chambers are their safe place.

This isn’t just millennials.

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Well, worrying about what SNL does comes across as snowflake behavior to me. Just saying.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1183100]The millenials are the snowflakes. Many also are liberals[/quote]

Right, we're the snowflakes, what with the constant bitching about feeling attacked for our beliefs, or being hyper-sensitive about gun rights every time another white guy decides to shoot up a crowd, or even being scared to admit you're pro-Trump because you fear the backlash. I've got a coworker who literally thinks Christians face more persecution than Muslims in this country. I mean seriously?

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[quote=mooby;1183134]Right, we're the snowflakes, what with the constant bitching about feeling attacked for our beliefs, or being hyper-sensitive about gun rights every time another white guy decides to shoot up a crowd, or even being scared to admit you're pro-Trump because you fear the backlash. I've got a coworker who literally thinks Christians face more persecution than Muslims in this country. I mean seriously?[/quote]

ummm i dont think being a fan of democratic policies or being a democrat in general means your a snowflake. But I think the ideology of democrats moving progressively left where narratives are increasingly out of touch lead directly to the election of Trump.

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[quote=MTK;1183133]Well, worrying about what SNL does comes across as snowflake behavior to me. Just saying.[/quote]

This. Trump is about the biggest vagina I've ever seen. He just. can't. let. shit. go.

I apply this to both sides, but goddamn dude, if you want to run the country, do it, but stop trying to self-fellatiate all the time. It's always, "Believe me, this will be great, believe me."

"Our leaders in the past, not as great as me." Seriously, shut the fuck up man. Just do your job and let your actions speak for themselves.

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[quote=MTK;1183133]Well, worrying about what SNL does comes across as snowflake behavior to me. Just saying.[/quote]

Trump is a overly sensitive...snowflake even?...but lets be honest, he has always been like this. But lets be honest again...Trump has never been a politician...even now. Has he been able to run the country...yes he has. Has he been able to lead the country? tougher to answer.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1183139]This. Trump is about the biggest vagina I've ever seen. He just. can't. let. shit. go.

I apply this to both sides, but goddamn dude, if you want to run the country, do it, but stop trying to self-fellatiate all the time. It's always, "Believe me, this will be great, believe me."

"Our leaders in the past, not as great as me." Seriously, shut the fuck up man. [B]Just do your job and let your actions speak for themselves.[/B][/quote]

1000x this.

Also Chico, I get what you're saying, but the snowflake thing is just petty name-calling because both sides have issues that we are passionate about.

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[quote=mooby;1183146]1000x this.

Also Chico, I get what you're saying, but the snowflake thing is just petty name-calling because both sides have issues that we are passionate about.[/quote]

That label is tough to peel away, but it will not go anywhere until dems start calling out their own and change these absurd narratives.

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That word bothers me because it's how people end a conversation.

Maybe I'm masochistic, but there might be a good discussion going on Reddit or some other forum and the second someone throws out snowflake, discussion = over.

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[url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-harassment/u-s-lawmaker-probed-on-sex-reports-second-congressman-denies-charges-idUSKBN1E92GA[/url]

U.S. lawmaker probed on sex reports, second congressman denies charges

Why in the hell have the major media networks suddenly stopped reporting on the sexual harassment accusations? Strange...oh is it because two minority democratic Congressman are accused?

YUP

Amazing

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[quote=Chico23231;1183151]That label is tough to peel away, but it will not go anywhere until dems start calling out their own and change these absurd narratives.[/quote]

Calling out their own on what? Like the rest of the Dems did to Franken? Or are you saying we need to call out the feux-outraged people that cry wolf at every opportunity? Because people already do that.

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[quote=Chico23231;1183340][url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-harassment/u-s-lawmaker-probed-on-sex-reports-second-congressman-denies-charges-idUSKBN1E92GA[/url]

U.S. lawmaker probed on sex reports, second congressman denies charges

Why in the hell have the major media networks suddenly stopped reporting on the sexual harassment accusations? Strange...oh is it because two minority democratic Congressman are accused?

YUP

Amazing[/quote]

This was on page 4 of MSN at the time I clicked the link.

[url]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kihuen-wont-seek-reelection-amid-sexual-harassment-allegations/ar-BBGOXSc?li=BBnb7Kz[/url]

Front page news? Not unless there's a major outrage that the story wasn't picked up.

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[quote=Chico23231;1183340][url]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-harassment/u-s-lawmaker-probed-on-sex-reports-second-congressman-denies-charges-idUSKBN1E92GA[/url]

U.S. lawmaker probed on sex reports, second congressman denies charges

Why in the hell have the major media networks suddenly stopped reporting on the sexual harassment accusations? Strange...oh is it because two minority democratic Congressman are accused?

YUP

Amazing[/quote]

So you're mad it was reported but not on page one,is that it?To you every story you deem import should be on the front page or it's a MSM cover up.:stop: