[QUOTE=Giantone;891658]Mannings agent might have an interest in Washington Peyton does not, Jets or Cardinals for Manning[/QUOTE]

And u know this how?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;891672]And u know this how?[/quote]

Careful deduction and guessing my dear Watson!!!

The jets will give Peyton full and total control in the O and will bring in who ever he wants ,the jets want to win right now(yesterday is not too soon) and deal with the future later. The Skins want to build for the future also with Mannings injury he would be better off in a warm climate or indoors the Cardinals have it all the indoor /outdoor stadium and most of the opponants are warm weather teams.


AND YES THIS IS ALL MY IDEA.....I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST.

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[quote=Giantone;891678]Careful deduction and guessing my dear Watson!!!

The jets will give Peyton full and total control in the O and will bring in who ever he wants ,the jets want to win right now(yesterday is not too soon) and deal with the future later. The Skins want to build for the future also with Mannings injury he would be better off in a warm climate or indoors the Cardinals have it all the indoor /outdoor stadium and most of the opponants are warm weather teams.


AND YES THIS IS ALL MY IDEA.....I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST.[/quote]

Seriously, you guys just won a super bowl. Nothing better to do than come to the 4th place divisional rivals message board to give us your "insight" on our offseason moves?

Kinda pathetic if you would ask me, dear watson.......

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[quote=Mechanix544;891685]

Kinda pathetic if you would ask me, dear watson.......[/quote]


Good thing noone ask then.

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Reports out of Cleveland are saying Dolphins are out, Brown refusing to give up their 2nd first round pick, and Redskins refusing to give up their 2nd round pick (I had heard refusing 2013 1st, but whatever). Smart moves by these teams. Make the Rams work for it. Everyone knows they're not going to hold onto that #2 pick, and even if they do they're not taking RG3

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[quote=SmootSmack;891687]Reports out of Cleveland are saying Dolphins are out, Brown refusing to give up their 2nd first round pick, and Redskins refusing to give up their 2nd round pick (I had heard refusing 2013 1st, but whatever). Smart moves by these teams. Make the Rams work for it. Everyone knows they're not going to hold onto that #2 pick, and even if they do they're not taking RG3[/quote]

IMO great new Lambs trying to get to greedy. Vikings might be wanting less.

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[quote=SmootSmack;891687]Reports out of Cleveland are saying Dolphins are out, Brown refusing to give up their 2nd first round pick, and Redskins refusing to give up their 2nd round pick (I had heard refusing 2013 1st, but whatever). Smart moves by these teams. Make the Rams work for it. Everyone knows they're not going to hold onto that #2 pick, and even if they do they're not taking RG3[/quote]

Good. No need to rush, let free agency play out and the Rams will lose some leverage right away.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/04/in-st-louis-redskins-viewed-as-favorites-to-trade-up-with-rams/]In St. Louis, Redskins viewed as favorites to trade up with Rams | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;891693][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/04/in-st-louis-redskins-viewed-as-favorites-to-trade-up-with-rams/]In St. Louis, Redskins viewed as favorites to trade up with Rams | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

i don't mind this scenerio, if this were the case i think i would take the risk.
[quote]So if the Redskins are the team moving up, they might be able to keep this year’s second overall pick. But they’d probably have to give up this year’s first and third, and next year’s first and fifth.[/quote]

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[quote=mlmdub130;891696]i don't mind this scenerio, if this were the case i think i would take the risk.[/quote]

Sign me up for that to, I think I had 2012 1st & 3rd, 2013 1st & 4th.

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Washington Redskins (@redskinsbuzztap)
3/4/12 10:51 AM
CSNWashington >> Report: Redskins won't part with 2nd in RG3 deal buzztap.com/-Cyp80H


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[quote=Mattyk;891693][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/04/in-st-louis-redskins-viewed-as-favorites-to-trade-up-with-rams/]In St. Louis, Redskins viewed as favorites to trade up with Rams | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

If the Redskins were trading up with Indianapolis for the #1 overall pick, then the compensation of that second round draft pick would be about right in a deal like that. But with the #2 overall pick, Redskin officials are right to refuse to add their 2nd round selection in this year's draft as a part of the deal. This year's first round pick, this year's 3rd round pick, and maybe a 4th round pick in addition to next year's 1st round pick is enough to give the Rams to move up to their spot in the first round of the 2012 NFL draft.

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[quote=44Deezel;891705]Washington Redskins (@redskinsbuzztap)
3/4/12 10:51 AM
CSNWashington >> Report: Redskins won't part with 2nd in RG3 deal buzztap.com/-Cyp80H


Sent from my iPad[/quote]

If you're trying to post links, it's not working. Just a heads up.

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And that's why I like this new administration. Don't you get the idea that 5 years ago, anything the other team wanted, we would have given away?

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[quote=Bushead;891712]And that's why I like this new administration. Don't you get the idea that 5 years ago, anything the other team wanted, we would have given away?[/quote]

Most certainly. Vinny Cerratto would have given away the entire draft to move up to #2. The thing that I didn't appreciate about Cerratto was he did things that previous Redskin GM Charley Casserly and Bobby Beathard never did. Vinny Cerratto's main failing as Redskins general manager was that he had no idea or no basic concept of team building. This is why from 1999 to 2009, the Redskins only had three playoff appearances, countless losses, and only two playoff victories.

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[quote=Mattyk;891711]If you're trying to post links, it's not working. Just a heads up.[/quote]

Yeah, I know. Too lazy to jump on my laptop. I thought you could still cut and paste, but maybe not.

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Rams need to stop being greedy.

First and second this years and first and third next?? Lmao um no they can keep that pick

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If they don't watch it they will get nothing and the Vikings will cash in.

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[quote=Bushead;891712]And that's why I like this new administration. Don't you get the idea that 5 years ago, anything the other team wanted, we would have given away?[/quote]

Well, if this was the Cerrato/Zorn FO, I think it would've gone like this:

Rams: We want your first and third this year, as well as your first and 5th next year.

Vinny: You want my first and second this year, as well as my first, second, and third next year? Damnit! Alright fine.

Rams: Uh yeah sure, we'll take that.

Vinny: Now you want my first, second, and third this year, as well as my first, second, third next year, as well as my first in 2013? Effffff me! Alright you drive a hard bargain, but I'll do it.

Rams: We didn't say any such thing, but we're not saying it's a bad deal...

Vinny: Alright fine! You guys can have my entire draft for this year, 2013, and 2014? Is that fair? You're breaking my balls Mac. But no more! 4 entire drafts for one player isn't worth it!

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I'm glad we are being tough about the #2 pick this year. Losing that pick would substantially neuter our draft. Keeping that pick means that we can get help for our new QB.

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I still think one of our 2 4th rounders are in play for moving up for RG3.

Chances we sign Peyton AND draft RG3?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;891734]I still think one of our 2 4th rounders are in play for moving up for RG3.

[B]Chances we sign Peyton AND draft RG3?[/B][/quote]

nil

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;891723]If they don't watch it they will get nothing and the Vikings will cash in.[/quote]

Once FA starts and some of the teams with QB needs start making moves, there will be less teams vying to trade. IMO this will hurt the Rams based on supply-demand.

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[quote=Giantone;891678][B]Careful deduction and guessing my dear Watson!!![/B]

The jets will give Peyton full and total control in the O and will bring in who ever he wants ,the jets want to win right now(yesterday is not too soon) and deal with the future later. The Skins want to build for the future also with Mannings injury he would be better off in a warm climate or indoors the Cardinals have it all the indoor /outdoor stadium and most of the opponants are warm weather teams.


AND YES THIS IS ALL MY IDEA.....I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST.[/quote]

Then why write like it was fact?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;891734]I still think one of our 2 4th rounders are in play for moving up for RG3.

Chances we sign Peyton AND draft RG3?[/quote]

Not good according to Giantone....

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That's why the Rams wanna trade the pick now.

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[quote=mlmdub130;891696]i don't mind this scenerio, if this were the case i think i would take the risk.[/quote]

Send them a windbreaker

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I think two first rounders alone would be enough to trade up for a second overall pick from the 6th spot. And Bruce Allen will no doubt throw in a third rounder and maybe a fourth or fifth. But dirty greed has set in on the Rams part. The Redskins shouldn't give them a 2nd round draft choice. That's over compensating big time. If the Rams do indeed want the Redskins 2012 2nd round pick, then they should give the Redskins at least a few veteran players as a part of the deal/package.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;891758]I think two first rounders alone would be enough to trade up for a second overall pick from the 6th spot. And Bruce Allen will no doubt throw in a third rounder and maybe a fourth or fifth. But dirty greed has set in on the Rams part. The Redskins shouldn't give them a 2nd round draft choice. That's over compensating big time. If the Rams do indeed want the Redskins 2012 2nd round pick, then they should give the Redskins at least a few veteran players as a part of the deal/package.[/quote]
Remember, they are only really netting one 1st in that scenario. Believe me, the Redskins will be happy to give a first and a second. They are bluffing right now, if that is the case. The real offer will come on the last hour of the 12th. So if it fails they can deal for a free agent.

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[quote=Mattyk;891693][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/04/in-st-louis-redskins-viewed-as-favorites-to-trade-up-with-rams/]In St. Louis, Redskins viewed as favorites to trade up with Rams | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]


The lambs are playing a crazy game think about even if cleveland dosen't want to give up their 2nd 1st round pick their 1st rd & 2nd rd picks are still before our 1st & 2nd rd picks meaning cleveland must be offering 1st & 4th rd pick.

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[quote=Lotus;891731]I'm glad we are being tough about the #2 pick this year. Losing that pick would substantially neuter our draft. Keeping that pick means that we can get help for our new QB.[/quote]Very true. It's important to have a line drawn somewhere.

IMO, if you grab a quarterback this year, the potential upside of the 2013 first rounder drops significant, because one thing you can't draft with it is your QB of the future.

And if you believe like I do that there are plenty of market inefficiencies caused by too many teams overvaluing the QB position, then you can still win on draft day 2013 by trading around with teams that need to position themselves for quarterbacks.

What you can't do is ever trade a future first rounder and potentially find out later that you had a quarterback you liked sitting where you would have picked him, and didn't have the pick. It's why you can't carelessly throw high draft picks around with no clear organization philosophy on how to improve.

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[URL="http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/54574/report-browns-unwilling-to-trade-22nd-pick"]Browns Unwilling to Trade 22nd Pick[/URL]

Could be no news at all... i.e. a smoke-screen... but I just saw it on ESPN.com

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[quote=Mattyk;891737]nil[/quote]Lets say this all goes wrong,Rams don't get what they want and keep the #2 pick,do you think they would draft RGIII anyway and then try and trade him or Bradford ?

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no, i think they would draft who is number 1 on their draft board and then the vikings phone lines would be ringing off the hook and they wont be as stubborn.

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[quote=Giantone;891810]Lets say this all goes wrong,Rams don't get what they want and keep the #2 pick,do you think they would draft RGIII anyway and then try and trade him or Bradford ?[/quote]

I think they would just take Blackmon or Kalil

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It would certainly create an interesting...scramble for a few minutes.

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[quote=Mattyk;891813]I think they would just take Blackmon or Kalil[/quote]or sit on it and let the clock run out, letting rg3 go at 2 and getting their boner at 3

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[quote=Bubba305-ST21-;891812]no, i think they would draft who is number 1 on their draft board and then the vikings phone lines would be ringing off the hook and they wont be as stubborn.[/quote]

That would be the ideal situation for us. We could get RG3 cheaper. I wonder if they try bluffing if there doesn't seem to be much interest in how much the Rams are asking. We can tell them you can trade us X amount or we already have a deal in place with Minnesota at #3 for less.

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[quote=Mattyk;891813]I think they would just take Blackmon or Kalil[/quote]

That would make the Vikings happy campers.