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jamf 01-29-2019 12:19 PM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1218064]And the circus continues...

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/29/washington-interviewed-ken-zampese-for-quarterbacks-coach/"]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/01/29/washington-interviewed-ken-zampese-for-quarterbacks-coach/[/URL]

Kevin O'Connell is still our QB coach, but we are interviewing others to take his job. O'Connell is widely viewed as a rising star, but we're giving him the Manusky treatment. Of course, perhaps we just interviewed Zampese to get "new ideas." Do you think O'Connell participated in on the interview?[/quote]

Another Marvin Lewis Coaching Tree Failure.
Zero Playoff wins with ML in 16 seasons.
Lewis is the Kim Kardashian of NFL head coaches and Jay is Rob Kardashian.

Skinsfanatic 01-29-2019 01:02 PM

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[quote=MTK;1218066]Hopefully it means a promotion for O’Connell


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He is an up and coming name, right? Maybe the plan is to make him OC/playcaller and then promote him to HC if/when Jay fails.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-29-2019 01:21 PM

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[quote=MTK;1218066]Hopefully it means a promotion for O’Connell


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That is Chris Russell's speculation. He said Dan loves OConnell and does not want to lose him. Said he's in play to be the HC when they move on from Gruden.

SFREDSKIN 01-29-2019 05:09 PM

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O’Connell new OC and other changes:

[url]https://www.redskins.com/news/redskins-promote-kevin-o-connell-to-oc-matt-cavanaugh-asst[/url]

Tennskinsfan 01-30-2019 04:39 PM

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I’ve had a slow week so far at work with the weather going on. So I had some time to nerd out on some numbers. I’ll be the first to say I was diss appointed in Manusky at as the season progressed, but since we have him for another year I decided to look at the numbers.

I’ve split the season up into 2 groups. Pre Alex Injury and after.

Time of possession per game avg:
Week 1-11 31:24
Week 12-17 26:40

Rushing yards against per game avg
Week 1-11 95.7
Week 12-17 150
Season 116.25

Our defense was crushing the run game early. We held our first 8 teams below there season avg of rushing yards per game. Took some lumps in Atlanta (55yds)and then barely missed keeping Tampa (7) and Houston (12) under their avg.

Then Alex injury happened and our offense couldn’t stay on the field. Our defense had to do everything (aside from JJ’s 2 good games) and the rush yards added up.

I realize stats aren’t everything, but it helps seeing as how we’re stuck with Manusky. I am a little curious to the whatif Alex had stayed healthy. We wouldn’t be in the Super Bowl but would our defense have ended on such a sour note?

Overal I have to say I’m starting to like the moves they are making.

mooby 01-30-2019 04:49 PM

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[quote=Tennskinsfan;1218204]I’ve had a slow week so far at work with the weather going on. So I had some time to nerd out on some numbers. I’ll be the first to say I was diss appointed in Manusky at as the season progressed, but since we have him for another year I decided to look at the numbers.

I’ve split the season up into 2 groups. Pre Alex Injury and after.

Time of possession per game avg:
Week 1-11 31:24
Week 12-17 26:40

Rushing yards against per game avg
Week 1-11 95.7
Week 12-17 150
Season 116.25

Our defense was crushing the run game early. We held our first 8 teams below there season avg of rushing yards per game. Took some lumps in Atlanta (55yds)and then barely missed keeping Tampa (7) and Houston (12) under their avg.

Then Alex injury happened and our offense couldn’t stay on the field. Our defense had to do everything (aside from JJ’s 2 good games) and the rush yards added up.

I realize stats aren’t everything, but it helps seeing as how we’re stuck with Manusky. I am a little curious to the whatif Alex had stayed healthy. We wouldn’t be in the Super Bowl but would our defense have ended on such a sour note?

Overal I have to say I’m starting to like the moves they are making.[/quote]

I think a little better breakdown is required on the D, because IIRC we peaked from weeks 6-8 when we held Christian McCaffrey, Zeke, and Saquon Barkley wayyyy under their weekly averages. Then Tevin Coleman exploded on us for 150+ combined yards and a pair of td's in the Falcons blowout, then the TB game was an outlier as Fitzpatrick threw for 400 but we held them to a field goal on like 4-5 red zone trips. And then our season fell apart against the Texans.

So it wasn't a matter of "once Alex went down, our D went with it." Our D was falling apart before Alex went down. And there weren't any obvious injuries we could point to as the culprit.

SFREDSKIN 02-11-2019 03:06 PM

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Jay’s son busted:

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Jack-Gruden-arrested-drunk-in-public--128985737/[/url]

skinsfaninok 02-11-2019 03:08 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1218745]Jay’s son busted:

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Jack-Gruden-arrested-drunk-in-public--128985737/[/url][/quote]

Followed him on IG, This is not a surprise. He's cocky as fuck

sdskinsfan2001 02-11-2019 03:34 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1218745]Jay’s son busted:

[url]https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-redskins/Article/Jack-Gruden-arrested-drunk-in-public--128985737/[/url][/quote]

He bro'ed the fuck out of that night.

sdskinsfan2001 02-11-2019 03:38 PM

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How to get a job with Redskins:

Be related to anyone that has or does coach for team; or

Have coached for, played for, have lived in, or hell, even just have driven through Tampa Bay.

skinsfaninok 03-18-2019 08:33 AM

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[url]https://twitter.com/1067theFan/status/1107608446558486529[/url]

Wow per 106.7 The Fan,

The #Redskins have not consulted head coach Jay Gruden on any of their offseason moves says @EBJunkies, citing a source: "I'm told he heard about the Landon Collins signing through the media."

If this is true, this team is destined for 4-12

Chico23231 03-18-2019 09:05 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1220346][url]https://twitter.com/1067theFan/status/1107608446558486529[/url]

Wow per 106.7 The Fan,

The #Redskins have not consulted head coach Jay Gruden on any of their offseason moves says @EBJunkies, citing a source: "I'm told he heard about the Landon Collins signing through the media."

If this is true, this team is destined for 4-12[/quote]

Honestly, Jay hasn't earned it. "His guys" have been garbage. We're stuck with the highest paid TEs core who contribute nothing blocking and disappointment in the passing game who aren't healthy, a WRs cores who never developed or are injured, RBs like Rob Kelly on the roster who cant play, LG garbage, zero interior Oline depth...oh Colt who is always injured and we never developed a young QB because of him.

Jay's input has been disappointing. fuck him

skinsfaninok 03-18-2019 09:14 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1220349]Honestly, Jay hasn't earned it. "His guys" have been garbage. We're stuck with the highest paid TEs core who contribute nothing blocking and disappointment in the passing game who aren't healthy, a WRs cores who never developed or are injured, RBs like Rob Kelly on the roster who cant play, LG garbage, zero interior Oline depth...oh Colt who is always injured and we never developed a young QB because of him.

Jay's input has been disappointing. fuck him[/quote]

I don't disagree but the drama never ends in DC.

GridIron26 03-18-2019 09:41 AM

Re: House Cleaning put on hold....
 
[quote=Chico23231;1220349]Honestly, Jay hasn't earned it. "His guys" have been garbage. We're stuck with the highest paid TEs core who contribute nothing blocking and disappointment in the passing game who aren't healthy, a WRs cores who never developed or are injured, RBs like Rob Kelly on the roster who cant play, LG garbage, zero interior Oline depth...oh Colt who is always injured and we never developed a young QB because of him.

Jay's input has been disappointing. fuck him[/quote]


You made valid point although, it does not justify Redskins's approach. If they have already decided that Jay is not part of the future then they should get rid of him now instead of waiting until later. This approach alone is enough for assistant coaches to ignore Jay throughout this season, and it will not help build a good team. It just does not make any sense for Redskins to hold onto Jay.

CRedskinsRule 03-18-2019 10:03 AM

Re: House Cleaning put on hold....
 
[QUOTE=GridIron26;1220351]You made valid point although, it does not justify Redskins's approach. If they have already decided that Jay is not part of the future then they should get rid of him now instead of waiting until later. This approach alone is enough for assistant coaches to ignore Jay throughout this season, and it will not help build a good team. It just does not make any sense for Redskins to hold onto Jay.[/QUOTE]That is the likely scenario. Another is that it serves Jay notice and he spends time figuring out why he is an 8-8 coach. Not every head coach is a decision maker in player personnel and stripping Jay of that role is a way of emphasizing the displeasure with last season.

I would rather they just fired him though.


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