Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

Jacoby ford is not better than Moss or Gaffney, cmon now dude show some respect to these guys that have done it for years, ford is a KR PR for goodness sakes

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;849332]Jacoby ford is not better than Moss or Gaffney, cmon now dude show some respect to these guys that have done it for years, ford is a KR PR for goodness sakes[/quote]

Have you seen him play? He's better than Gaffney, he's a starter and burner. Have you heard of Marcel Reese or Taiwan Jones? Damn good RB's. Darius-Bey is having a good year, Denarius Moore is a very nice rookie, Louis Murphy, Chaz Shilens, Derek Hagan are all good receivers. You might not recognize the names, this team is loaded.

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;849332]Jacoby ford is not better than Moss or Gaffney, cmon now dude show some respect to these guys that have done it for years, ford is a KR PR for goodness sakes[/quote]

Ford is already miles ahead of Devin Hester the WR because catching the ball comes naturally to him. Not many WRs can go over the top and snatch the ball away from a CB like Ford did in the KC game last year. Moss has never been a strength guy and Gaffney? How about being nonexistent for the Patriots as their #3 before finally producing because Josh McDaniels loves to pass a lot.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU7HG0LE_30]||Jacoby Ford|| Raiders 2011|| HD|| - YouTube[/ame]

He has remarkable concentration and hand-eye coordination and has actual hands.

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

[url=http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-09-10/sports/30137996_1_darrius-heyward-bey-speed-jacoby-ford]Who's the Raiders' fastest player? - SFGate[/url]

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

Yes I watch Oakland a lot and I do like ford guys but I'm not talking speed I'm talking production at WR and he's still unproven

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

With Campbell coming back potentially in 6 weeks, I did not think they'd invest so much in a QB...just someone to bridge that gap so Boller isn't on the field. JC was playing VERY well for them...now it looks like he'll be gone since he's a FA and they've gotta stick with Palmer after overpaying for him so badly.

They better hope he's someone close to where he was before his injury. He hasn't been the same since.

However, after watching Ochocinco in NE this year...maybe it wasn't Palmer's fault completely. He should have a better offense around him in Oakland, especially with McFadden behind him. The WRs are talented but there is no clear #1. Heyward-Bey has been outstanding lately (with Campbell), Ford is always dangerous, Louis Murphy is reliable if nothing else...but no real star in the group.

Going to be interesting to watch. This is either going to propel Oakland to the next level or cripple them for 3 years minimum.

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;849386]Yes I watch Oakland a lot and I do like ford guys but I'm not talking speed I'm talking production at WR and he's still unproven[/quote]

The real scouts hit on guys before their production takes off. Jacoby Ford will become a 1000+ yard receiver before his career is over.

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

Palmer to start this Sunday.

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

wow Palmer already huh?

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

[quote=SirClintonPortis;849496]The real scouts hit on guys before their production takes off. Jacoby Ford will become a 1000+ yard receiver before his career is over.[/quote]

Well Brandon Lloyd was a star last year so does that make him better than anything we have? JS bro lets talk how great Ford is in 4 years

BTW 9 rec in 6 games isn't any good

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;849509]Well Brandon Lloyd was a star last year so does that make him better than anything we have? JS bro lets talk how great Ford is in 4 years

BTW 9 rec in 6 games isn't any good[/quote]
Ah, faulty data analysis at its finest.

Yes, Lloyd finally get his head out of his ass and started tapping into his talents. The tapped Lloyd was indeed better than whatever we have right now. Then comes in passing game killer John Fox and Lloyd fell off the face of the planet. It is not his fault.


For was inactive for 2 games due to injury. Only started one game b/c of injury. Had 3 receptions in every game except in NE. Last time I check, injury affects [I]production[/I], not [I]skill[/I].

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

Injuries are apart of it my man, moss never misses games for us now that's production.. Ford is an avg at best WR

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

What if Cinci and Oakland play in the divisional playoffs round in the next two years?

If Oakland wins, Oakland will go to the AFC title game, giving Cinci an extra #1 rather than #2 pick for Palmer. In losing, Cinci wins.

If Cinci wins the game, they will go to the AFC title game, thus making that extra pick a #2 rather than a #1. In winning, Cinci will lose on draft day.

So interesting.

About the trade:
[quote]On Tuesday, the Raiders traded either a pair of No. 1s (on the condition they make the AFC title game in either of the next two seasons) or a 1 and a 2 for Carson Palmer(notes)[/quote]
[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjHt9D9bU5.8j67jkN8qf8VDubYF?slug=ms-silver_32_questions_raiders_gamble_carson_palmer_101911]Jackson not hesitant to roll dice on Palmer - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;849517]Injuries are apart of it my man, moss never misses games for us now that's production.. Ford is an avg at best WR[/quote]Oh, so now Jamaal Charles is one of the worst backs in the league because he'll be posting up a giant goose-egg for the rest of the season? Or Lichtensteiger is terrible because he won't be playing for the rest of the season? Or how about Max Pacioretty's injury when getting run into the stanchion?
An unknown =/= bad.
As if the player has control of the situation in which he gets injured.

Re: Carson Palmer to Oakland Raiders for 1st/2012
 

No Jamal Charles has produced big time ford hasn't not the same thing bro