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Re: Victory Monday

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;835508]Nice Stat Scud...

Giantone... If you are here to talk about how bad we have been in the past.. well keep dwelling on that one. We are here for the present,.[/quote]

Nope and I did'nt bring it up all I'm doing is defending Eli,and all I did was ask a question?Find the post I said 1 negative thing about the Skins?

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[quote=GMScud;835504]You know what I think is funny? You said that not having OTA's/offseason hurt Eli and his WRs. Well, there have never been that many passing yards in a single week in NFL history. Didn't hurt anyone else. LOL.[/quote]

[quote=Giantone;835529]LOLReally,are you sure?How many yards did mcNabb have?I find it funny how mad you're getting when you realise Eli isn't all that bad. No doubt he stunk Sunday and you guys played great but as a Giant fan I know he can play better.So how many QB's is it?[/quote]

Ok Giantone, put it this way: following your argument and given first week performances, we should conclude that the lockout hurt Eli more than it hurt the rookie Newton.

Good luck with that.

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...........yes.Why I don't know but it seems that way.

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I will defend Eli a little bit. Quite a few of those INTs from last year came from tip balls from WRs. Even that INT Sunday was really at the hands of the missed block on the OL. Sucks that QBs have to take the fall for that, but thems the breaks.

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[quote=Giantone;835532]Nope and I did'nt bring it up all I'm doing is defending Eli,and all I did was ask a question?Find the post I said 1 negative thing about the Skins?[/quote]

TO be honest, in my earlier posts I was helping you defend Eli. I do not think he is that bad. I just don't consider him great. He is good, sure. He has a lot of things in place for him to succeed as well. Great D, an awesome Oline, good running game, and good WRs. You guys have always put competitive teams on the field. Your FO is great.

My real point was that the loss of the offseason really should not have effected the Giants as much as you seem to think it has. You guys besides the loss of Boss and an injured Steve Smith are bringing back the same team on offense.

Your biggest losses have come from injuries on the defensive side of the ball during preseason and training camp.

That is your current problem, not Eli or the offense. Give our D some credit, they played a hell of a game. Sometimes it is not how bad you are playing but how good the other unit they are going against is.

I have rewatched the game and we just straight out played you after the second quarter. There really is no doubt about that. Just give our team some credit as you are on a Skins board and be done with it.

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[quote=Giantone;835498]Maybe but I have a question for you,how many starting QB's have the Skins had in Eli's 7 years?When he sucks ...he stinks but when he's good he's very good .Like the Super bowl run or not he did it , and he won it, and he was the MVP of it,alot of "good" QB's can't say it.....alot of great QB's can't say it.[/quote]

Trent Dilfer looked really good during his superbowl run too...

Just sayin....

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Ely's not a bad QB. As G stated, sometimes he's great. Almost as good as Peyton....
And that is the problem, everybody measures him against Big Bro. He's a solid QB , but unlike Peyton, he has a touch of Romo in him as well.

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[quote=Giantone;835529]LOLReally,are you sure?How many yards did mcNabb have?I find it funny how mad you're getting when you realise Eli isn't all that bad.
No doubt he stunk Sunday and you guys played great but as a Giant fan I know he can play better.So how many QB's is it?[/quote]

Mad? Who's mad? On the contrary, I'm laughing.

[quote=Lotus;835536]Ok Giantone, put it this way: following your argument and given first week performances, we should conclude that the lockout hurt Eli more than it hurt the rookie Newton.

Good luck with that.[/quote]

Lotus for the win.

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I just watched the game on NFL Game Rewind (which sucks because you cant watch it during MNF or SNF)...anyways.
I was quite happy...however, our OT's got manhandled often. I am concerned because there is no way any QB can continue to take that sort of abuse...and keeping in mind they didn't have their studs...we may have an issue.

Ironically, it seemed the interior 3 seemed be be playing with some cohesion...and what the heck is up with Montgomery's shotgun snaps?...that dude needs some serious practice...they are either way to high or they are slow moving rainbows...both put Rex in jeopardy....I couldn't imagine how Beck would have dealt with that, Rex handled those poor snaps superbly.

Another thing....I do think they could have shifted the ground game a bit more to the power game with a lead FB, unfortunately Sellers was inactive, I do believe that is neccessary with the Giants.

I absolutely loved how many new players made key plays...all 3 Dline + backup Neild made key plays...Kerrigan of course.
Of course our Safetys were a bit week.. otogwe seemed missing...I loved Wilson at CB...I was expecting a drop off. Fred Davis killed it.
Hightower was a bit disappointing, but that was due to blocking, punting and kicking were solid.

The only disappointment and concern long term for me...Oline and Safety.....I also do have some Dline concerns against the power rushing teams with close scores...that could hurt us in 4th quarters if the other team is trying to run out the clock...but that concern still up in the air...I though Cofield was ok...but far from dominant particularly in the rushing game.

I did love the playcalling....a little disappointed in Armstrong on what would have been an amazing catch...but otherwise, I DO believe we have a WR corp!!
Gaffney is fine, Armstrong has high potential...Moss is as good as 5 years ago, our TE's are solid...(cooley looks hurt but should be fine)

Lets not get ahead of ourselves...we beat an NFC east team at home, we need to do that ALL the time to be 8-8. The team was hurt and may not have taken us seriously...that may not happen again. Our later schedule is very rough, we need to get early wins to get to 8-8...This is a good step in the right direction.

Prediction: Neild will be playing into the rotation every game as Cofield look winded.
And that is amazing considering I didn't even think the 7th rounder would have made the practice squad 3 weeks into training camp
HAIl Victory!!

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I have never really seen Giantone dissing the skins on here.. BUT... His boy Antrel Rolle did

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82238b96/article/rolle-says-redskins-victory-over-giants-amounted-to-a-fluke?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Rolle says Redskins' victory over Giants amounted to a fluke[/url]

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BTW why does Romo always get tossed into the BAD qb talk??? Dude is a baller IDC what people say.. How many rings has rivers won? How about Vick?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;835567]I have never really seen Giantone dissing the skins on here.. BUT... His boy Antrel Rolle did

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82238b96/article/rolle-says-redskins-victory-over-giants-amounted-to-a-fluke?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Rolle says Redskins' victory over Giants amounted to a fluke[/url][/quote]

Oh no he didn't! That's an utter lack of sportsmanship and respect.

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I can't wait for that game.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;835567]I have never really seen Giantone dissing the skins on here.. BUT... His boy Antrel Rolle did

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82238b96/article/rolle-says-redskins-victory-over-giants-amounted-to-a-fluke?module=HP11_headline_stack]NFL.com news: Rolle says Redskins' victory over Giants amounted to a fluke[/url][/QUOTE]

Haha that my friends is a salty individual.