Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;210772]Sorry if I'm not overwhelmed by a career 75.0 rating. :rolleyes:

You're right, the stats [U]don't[/U] lie. Career completion % of 55.7. 24 games started in 4 years. Yep, all adds up to a mediocre QB to me.

[quote]

This NYT article says that when it comes to QBs, statistics lie like a politician:

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/27/sports/football/27score.html[/URL]

Of course, the NYT lies about all kinds of stuff all the time.

While I am no Ramsey fan, I'd take PR over TC in a New York Minute.

It isn't the stats, it is what I see on the field.

Ramsey has at least been good enough to start in this league. I really think the TC signing is the biggest off season screw up this year.

That being said, if Gibbs and Saunders are convinced he gives the team the best chance not to lose, I have to acknowledge that they know what they are doing and have their reasons -- even if I don't see it.

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

I worry that Archuleta will be the biggest screw up signing, perhaps in the whole league.

I think Williams is going to have to get very creative to mask Arch's coverage deficiencies

I dont expect TC to play, so we won't have to worry about his performance on the field, or lack thereof

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

I agree with you TAFKAS. My buddies and I were commenting on him the entire game last night, we noticed that he could have probably prevented both TDs but didn't (I guess you could say that about a lot of guys though). Also, did you notice that he stayed in even after the starting D was off the field. The coaches must think he needs more work too.

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;210853][B]I worry that Archuleta will be the biggest screw up signing, perhaps in the whole league. [/B]

I think Williams is going to have to get very creative to mask Arch's coverage deficiencies

I dont expect TC to play, so we won't have to worry about his performance on the field, or lack thereof[/quote]

That's worried me since day one. He's going to be the more expensive Matt Bowen. A guy who could ONLY blitz.

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

can anyone tell me what the problem the skins front office had with ryan clark? with clark and taylor together , i thought they were one of the better tandems in the entire league

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

I think that play against the Chargers when he wiffed on LT pretty much ended Clark's career here. I believe they felt he was a steady perfomer, a solid backup but not a game changer. Maybe Arch is, but I haven't seen that from him since 2001 or thereabouts.

I liked Stoutmire.

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

Honestly, I prefer Prioleau over them all.

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

See I like Prioleau. But I like him as a jack of all trades. You can plug him in on teams, CB, S, at any time.

AMD is in his "lab" working on cloning Sean Taylor, so it's all good

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

Tell him while he's at it to create an Eva Longoria and Jessica Alba for me: mayo-free would be preferable.

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

I don't know, did anyone see last nights game. I didn't see who the player of the game was. I mean.. does anyone know. I was just curious. cause you know... the name of this thread was...

yeah...

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

Who told you people about the lab?

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

its common knowledge around here. i like both stoutmire and prioleau, both. did stoutmire sign with anyone?

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;210772]Sorry if I'm not overwhelmed by a career 75.0 rating. :rolleyes:

You're right, the stats [U]don't[/U] lie. Career completion % of 55.7. 24 games started in 4 years. Yep, all adds up to a mediocre QB to me.

Ramsey is NOT anything special. Enough with the excuses. Spurrier ruined him, Gibbs screwed him, he wasn't going to beat out Pennington, etc.

If he was a true NFL caliber starting QB, he wouldn't be riding the pine YET AGAIN.[/quote]

two points:

1. pennington is far better than collins, so that arguement is a complete joke.

2. collins is a career 70.4 rating QB, so technically, by your own arguement, ramsey is better. collins also has started 17 games in 11 years, which is far less than 24 in 4.

saying collins is better than ramsey isn't a very good arguement, especially if you want to rely on stats.


and pulling the coach knows best isn't really valid either. ramsey wanted out and when saunders was hired, it wasn't really up to him to keep ramsey. saunders wanted collins because he knew him well. He CLEARLY wasn't hired on talent, cause their were much better QBs on the market (griese, collins, etc etc etc). he also may have also wanted collins to screw herm edwards and brain drain the chiefs a bit (they had to scramble to get huard (sp?) resigned afterwards).

Your arguement also keeps stating that ramsey is a backup and not starter quality, but in a comparision with collins, that's completely moot as todd is most definately not someone ANYONE would want starting.

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

[quote=dmek25;210900]its common knowledge around here. i like both stoutmire and prioleau, both. did stoutmire sign with anyone?[/quote]
the saints

Re: Do you really wanna see anymore todd collins?
 

[quote=dmek25;210900]its common knowledge around here. i like both stoutmire and prioleau, both. did stoutmire sign with anyone?[/quote]
nevermind, steveo beat me to it.


might as well just bump up the post count at this point.


Forget about the lab though, the FDA is shutting me down (looks like I'm moving to Cuba)