Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?

Beemnseven · 10-17-2009, 01:11 PM

If we accept that the only player on our roster that's attractive enough for another team to give up a first and third round draft pick is Chris Cooley, would you trade him?

Assuming that we could use both first round picks for offensive linemen, along with regaining the third round pick we lost for Jarmon, I would probably be in favor of it. Doesn't mean I don't like Chris Cooley -- he is a world class tight end, no doubt. But if there isn't a quarterback who could be kept upright long enough to find him, what good is he?

I think we could all agree that O-line should be the priority. If this was the only way we could stockpile extra draft picks to rebuild the line, would you jump? What if this could be our 'Hershel Walker' trade?

SFREDSKIN · 10-17-2009, 01:12 PM

noway!!!

skinsfaninok · 10-17-2009, 01:13 PM

Close this thread!

Beemnseven · 10-17-2009, 01:14 PM

Jeez -- I thought it was a legit question at least...

Paintrain · 10-17-2009, 01:16 PM

If someone was dumb enough to offer us that, uh, HELL YEAH! In a heartbeat you make that trade.

Love Cooley, LOVE him, but I love the Redskins more and if they could improve for the long term you have to take that offer.

Redskin Warrior · 10-17-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

If someone was dumb enough to offer us that, uh, HELL YEAH! In a heartbeat you make that trade.

Love Cooley, LOVE him, but I love the Redskins more and if they could improve for the long term you have to take that offer.

Yeah Pain is right aside from personal feelings about Cooley this would be a good move.

WaldSkins · 10-17-2009, 01:52 PM

You'd be stupid to turn this down but it would depend on the cap hit.

44Deezel · 10-17-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Jeez -- I thought it was a legit question at least...

It is. We've seen some of the elite teams trade away or let go some of their more popular players when it's in the best interest of their long term success. Moves that come to mind are Joey Porter in Pittsburgh and a bunch of guys for the Pats (Seymour this year). Can't let personal feelings get in the way of sound business moves. The team comes first. If we could get a 1 and 3 for Cooley, I'd say do it. Not sure we could though, and not all that confident the FO would make good with the picks. Tough call.

skinsfan_nn · 10-17-2009, 01:55 PM

Absolutely not. Then what, stuck with Fred Davis and Yoder?

You have to replace him with something. He's not only our Pro-Bowl TE, but a premier WR.

To bad we don't have something in Davis of worth so we could send him packing. It appears that #2 pick is a useless tit.

WaldSkins · 10-17-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Absolutely not. Then what, stuck with Fred Davis and Yoder?

You have to replace him with something. He's not only our Pro-Bowl TE, but a premier WR.

How do you know if Fred Davis is any good or not? You can't judge him by the limited playing time he has received. With 2 first rounders, a second, and a third. You could fix our Oline and some other needs pretty quickly.

skinsfan_nn · 10-17-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

How do you know if Fred Davis is any good or not? You can't judge him by the limited playing time he has received. With 2 first rounders, a second, and a third. You could fix our Oline and some other needs pretty quickly.

Pretty simple. I've been watching him the last year and a half!

MTK · 10-17-2009, 02:11 PM

If I was confident Davis could step in I would do it, trouble is I'm not, so I wouldn't.

WaldSkins · 10-17-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Pretty simple. I've been watching him the last year and a half!

You can't judge him in the limited role that he has been playing.

skinster · 10-17-2009, 02:19 PM

we couldnt get a 1st and a 3rd for him...shockey went for a 2nd

edit: and gonzolez went for a 2nd and a 6th

Beemnseven · 10-17-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

Absolutely not. Then what, stuck with Fred Davis and Yoder?

You have to replace him with something. He's not only our Pro-Bowl TE, but a premier WR.

To bad we don't have something in Davis of worth so we could send him packing. It appears that #2 pick is a useless tit.

During Gibbs 1.0, there wasn't a pass receiving tight end on the level of Cooley. Those offenses did okay. While guys like Cooley are nice to have, they aren't necessarily a must for prolific offenses.

I guess it would depend on what type of offense you bring in. If we go with another coach who's a West Coast guy, you'd have to find a capable replacement. But again, going with the premise of the original question, if you're on your way to building a solid offensive line that can give your QB plenty of time, and pave the way for bruising running game, it wouldn't be that hard to find a tight end that could get the job done.

10-17-2009, 01:11 PM	#1
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it? If we accept that the only player on our roster that's attractive enough for another team to give up a first and third round draft pick is Chris Cooley, would you trade him? Assuming that we could use both first round picks for offensive linemen, along with regaining the third round pick we lost for Jarmon, I would probably be in favor of it. Doesn't mean I don't like Chris Cooley -- he is a world class tight end, no doubt. But if there isn't a quarterback who could be kept upright long enough to find him, what good is he? I think we could all agree that O-line should be the priority. If this was the only way we could stockpile extra draft picks to rebuild the line, would you jump? What if this could be our 'Hershel Walker' trade?

10-17-2009, 01:13 PM	#3
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10-17-2009, 01:14 PM	#4
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it? Jeez -- I thought it was a legit question at least...

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Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 53 Posts: 5,006	Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it? If someone was dumb enough to offer us that, uh, HELL YEAH! In a heartbeat you make that trade. Love Cooley, LOVE him, but I love the Redskins more and if they could improve for the long term you have to take that offer. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

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skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 59 Posts: 4,495	Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it? Absolutely not. Then what, stuck with Fred Davis and Yoder? You have to replace him with something. He's not only our Pro-Bowl TE, but a premier WR. To bad we don't have something in Davis of worth so we could send him packing. It appears that #2 pick is a useless tit. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

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skinster Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 754	Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it? we couldnt get a 1st and a 3rd for him...shockey went for a 2nd edit: and gonzolez went for a 2nd and a 6th

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