Are we keeping #5?

AnonEmouse · 03-10-2004, 06:39 AM

Look like coach Gibbs has confirmed that unless the Skins get an offer they can't refuse for the #5 pick then we'll be using it. Strong favourite pick is Taylor.

Anyone believe this is a smokescreen?

I for one hope they pick up Taylor. With an improved pass rush and a better D scheme and coach, I think a big hitter in the secondary could be a real boost for us.

Daseal · 03-10-2004, 07:16 AM

I think it's hard to pass up Taylor or Winslow at this pick. Either one of these kids can really make a difference right away. I think he wants instant players because he probably won't be here THAT long. And correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of DEs take a few years to develop. It hink Taylor or Winslow will be ours with the 5th.

backrow · 03-10-2004, 07:41 AM

HOF Coach Gibbs has the right attitude! Unless someone steps up and throws us a monster deal, I'd stay at #5. I don't believe there are any deals out there that would do that, but I wouldn't be particularly surprised.

Daseal · 03-10-2004, 07:44 AM

The Texans might give us a lot for Taylor, and there's a possibility Winslow would drop that low (very slim chance)

cpayne5 · 03-10-2004, 08:47 AM

I don't think the Texans would make a huge deal. They would make a fair deal, but not a hugely advantageous (to us) one.

backrow · 03-10-2004, 12:14 PM

I've heard Detroit is really interested in Taylor. What would it take to move back a spot?

According to the Draft Pick Value Chart at http://www.footballcorner.bizland.co...ValueChart.jpg

we sit at a value of 1700, Detroit at 1600. Can we say: 1st, 3rd, & 6th?

cpayne5 · 03-10-2004, 12:19 PM

I'd defininitely swap back one spot (ala the Ditka deal in 99). But I'd ask for more than one pick. Maybe 2 2nd rounders or something. How much I'd ask for would depend on how interested they are in Taylor.

JWsleep · 03-10-2004, 03:45 PM

Seems to me it's win/win here. We're in a position to take one of two great prospects, both at postions we need. Or, someother team will step up with a sweet deal, and we'll get more draft help in other areas. Of course Gibbs is going to say we're gonna pick at #5, no matter what we really want to do. When it became clear we had to move Champ, we lost leverage and had to deal a 2nd rounder. This time, we get to set the price! Gibbs Rules.

Mikey · 03-10-2004, 04:02 PM

Taylor would be great. Winslow would also be a good pick up, but I don't see his talents necessarily fitting in well with the 'Skins (Donnie Warren comes to mind as the prototypical TE in the Gibbs system. #85 was a great blocker. Winslow is a great athlete, but he seems more concerned with getting downfield in the passing game).

Not that I think this can be answered in the draft, but a major concern that doesn't seem to have been addressed is the pass rush. While I think Springs will certainly be a good compliment to Smoot in the defensive backfield, I think the absence of Champ is going to make the 'Skins' deficiencies in the pass rush appear more glaring. There would seem to be even less margin for error this season in that department without a shut down corner (no disrespect to either Smoot or Springs).

03-10-2004, 06:39 AM	#1
AnonEmouse The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 58 Posts: 2,228	Are we keeping #5? Look like coach Gibbs has confirmed that unless the Skins get an offer they can't refuse for the #5 pick then we'll be using it. Strong favourite pick is Taylor. Anyone believe this is a smokescreen? I for one hope they pick up Taylor. With an improved pass rush and a better D scheme and coach, I think a big hitter in the secondary could be a real boost for us.

03-10-2004, 07:41 AM	#3
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 72 Posts: 1,812	HOF Coach Gibbs! HOF Coach Gibbs has the right attitude! Unless someone steps up and throws us a monster deal, I'd stay at #5. I don't believe there are any deals out there that would do that, but I wouldn't be particularly surprised. __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

03-10-2004, 12:14 PM	#6
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 72 Posts: 1,812	I've heard Detroit! I've heard Detroit is really interested in Taylor. What would it take to move back a spot? According to the Draft Pick Value Chart at http://www.footballcorner.bizland.co...ValueChart.jpg we sit at a value of 1700, Detroit at 1600. Can we say: 1st, 3rd, & 6th? __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship!

03-10-2004, 07:16 AM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I think it's hard to pass up Taylor or Winslow at this pick. Either one of these kids can really make a difference right away. I think he wants instant players because he probably won't be here THAT long. And correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of DEs take a few years to develop. It hink Taylor or Winslow will be ours with the 5th.

03-10-2004, 07:44 AM	#4
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	The Texans might give us a lot for Taylor, and there's a possibility Winslow would drop that low (very slim chance)

03-10-2004, 08:47 AM	#5
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	I don't think the Texans would make a huge deal. They would make a fair deal, but not a hugely advantageous (to us) one.

03-10-2004, 12:19 PM	#7
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	I'd defininitely swap back one spot (ala the Ditka deal in 99). But I'd ask for more than one pick. Maybe 2 2nd rounders or something. How much I'd ask for would depend on how interested they are in Taylor.

03-10-2004, 03:45 PM	#8
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,702	Seems to me it's win/win here. We're in a position to take one of two great prospects, both at postions we need. Or, someother team will step up with a sweet deal, and we'll get more draft help in other areas. Of course Gibbs is going to say we're gonna pick at #5, no matter what we really want to do. When it became clear we had to move Champ, we lost leverage and had to deal a 2nd rounder. This time, we get to set the price! Gibbs Rules. __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-10-2004, 04:02 PM	#9
Mikey Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 2	Taylor would be great. Winslow would also be a good pick up, but I don't see his talents necessarily fitting in well with the 'Skins (Donnie Warren comes to mind as the prototypical TE in the Gibbs system. #85 was a great blocker. Winslow is a great athlete, but he seems more concerned with getting downfield in the passing game). Not that I think this can be answered in the draft, but a major concern that doesn't seem to have been addressed is the pass rush. While I think Springs will certainly be a good compliment to Smoot in the defensive backfield, I think the absence of Champ is going to make the 'Skins' deficiencies in the pass rush appear more glaring. There would seem to be even less margin for error this season in that department without a shut down corner (no disrespect to either Smoot or Springs).

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