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Old 01-23-2006, 02:59 PM   #1
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Randle El is the receiver we need to pursue

I believe that Randle El would be the best fit at #2 WR for us. I have seen plenty of Steelers games becuase I live in Central Pennsylvania, and Randle El impresses me a lot, he reminds me a lot of Santana, and I think that's what we need on this team is another short explosive receiver just like the "Smurfs" back in the day. I know Randle El has only had 7 tds in his career, but I can see us using him for Screens, and trick plays since he was a QB in College, I also think that he will take a lot of pressure of Moss and Cooley, and I would like to see Saunders implement a 3 wr set with Moss, Randle El, and Patten. I hope Antwaan will be the receiver we pick up in Free Agency, but their is also a chance that Pittsburgh might resign him, but here's to hoping.
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Old 01-23-2006, 03:01 PM   #2
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You definitely have some supporters of the idea around here. There are also the ones who think TO is the answer.
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Old 01-23-2006, 03:07 PM   #3
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Welcome to the board. I've been clamoring for Randle-el for a while now. As have others here. He would be a great addition to the team.
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would love to add randle-el
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I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Randle-El in a Skins uniform. He return kicks/punts too, nice bonus!

Should be interesting to see what sort of impact Saunders has on personnel selection. Will we stick with the small/fast type, or look for a bigger WR. All I know is Saunders will likely want speed.
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Dont get me wrong I would like to have Randle el, but he is the same size as Moss. We need a bigger WR, a possion type WR.
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Buy "possion", did you mean a magical Potion or what? And Gardner was a credit to your theory.
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Dont get me wrong I would like to have Randle el, but he is the same size as Moss. We need a bigger WR, a possion type WR.
thats what cooley is for
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i think KR or curtis (or even moulds) would give better production for equal or less money than randal-el.
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Thanks for the welcome. It's nice to see that their are some people pushing for Randle El. As for Saunders keeping short explosive receivers as opposed to the TO Prototype receivers I just look back to the receivers he had in KC (Hall, Kennison, Parker) they're all pretty small receiver so I think Saunders will keep the smaller guys. As for Koren Robinson I would like to see him but I rather have Randle El, Moulds is a great Receiver but he is getting up there in age, and that makes me wonder how much he has left in the tank. I think Randle El is the most legitmate #2 Receiver for us given his age and how it seems that the Redskins are building this team around some younger guys.
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i think KR or curtis (or even moulds) would give better production for equal or less money than randal-el.
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KR can return kicks but last I checked he isn't as athletic. I am pretty sure he can't be relied on to throw options or take reverses and make a play. I think KR could be a great downfield threat but I also think he could end up roaming his neighborhood naked and babbling with steak knife wounds all over him. That diminishes his value a bit. Randle El might be more expensive but probably not terribly much more and he doesn't have nay character issues that I know of. He probably isn't the potential downfield threat of KR but he does other things that the Skins could use nicely.
Curtis is intriguing but again ARE seems to have a few more tricks in his bag than Curtis. ARE would also be cheaper than Moulds I think. Moulds is a vet with something left in the tank. Somone will pony up for him.
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i think KR or curtis (or even moulds) would give better production for equal or less money than randal-el.
I didn't know that Kevin Curtis is also a free agent. Either he or Randal El would fit the bill - both have exposive speed. Add either one, and it will make a huge difference for Moss. Cooley becomes even more effective as a posession receiver with teams pre-occupied with our WR speed. We can them move Patten to #3 WR, which was his position with the Pats. I'm really excited about our offense with Saunders coming in.
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My concern with the "smurfs" analogy is that I believe DB's (along with everyone else in the NFL) have gotten bigger since the 80's. For this reason I would prefer someone larger. With the amount of attention Moss receives, I would prefer someone who can get a jump ball when they are in single coverage.
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As far as Randle El goes, don't forget -- Bill Cowher and the Steeler organization has never bent over backwards to make sure they retain key players -- Kendrell Bell, Plaxico. They have always been able to find adequate replacements.
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KR can return kicks but last I checked he isn't as athletic. I am pretty sure he can't be relied on to throw options or take reverses and make a play. I think KR could be a great downfield threat but I also think he could end up roaming his neighborhood naked and babbling with steak knife wounds all over him. That diminishes his value a bit. Randle El might be more expensive but probably not terribly much more and he doesn't have nay character issues that I know of. He probably isn't the potential downfield threat of KR but he does other things that the Skins could use nicely.
Curtis is intriguing but again ARE seems to have a few more tricks in his bag than Curtis. ARE would also be cheaper than Moulds I think. Moulds is a vet with something left in the tank. Somone will pony up for him.
KR might not run trick plays as well, but thats a terribly small percentage of total production and randal-el's numbers just aren't very good.

Curtis is an RFA and would cost a 3rd rounder, but he'd be worth it.
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KR might not run trick plays as well, but thats a terribly small percentage of total production and randal-el's numbers just aren't very good.

Curtis is an RFA and would cost a 3rd rounder, but he'd be worth it.
His numbers aren't bad though. Remember we're looking for a #2 or #3 not a #1 so a guy who can catch 50-65 balls would be a great weapon. While trick plays are definitely only a small percentage of the plays they are often good for 5 or 6 TDs a year if you have the players to do them. In that case defenses have to spend time preparing for them and have one more thing to worry about during games. It can open up the defenses a little more. That's what we need. Get those LBs off the line and move those safeties back a little to get room for Moss. Just a little here and there will be big I think.
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I would love to have Randle El, I think he would be great addition & help our passing game greatly. I've heard the Bears are also very interested in him, hopefully we get him.
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I would love to have Randle El, I think he would be great addition & help our passing game greatly. I've heard the Bears are also very interested in him, hopefully we get him.
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As far as Randle El goes, don't forget -- Bill Cowher and the Steeler organization has never bent over backwards to make sure they retain key players -- Kendrell Bell, Plaxico. They have always been able to find adequate replacements.
This is very true plus the Steelers have Cedrick Wilson who could step into the #2 spot if needed.
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Old 01-23-2006, 05:07 PM   #20
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Height doesn't mean shit. If you didn't already know, Santana Moss has a 42 in vertical. The man has some serious hops.
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antwan randle-el would be absolutely perfect, he can return punts and has great hands, i can see him makin a huge addition to the 2006-2007 super bowl champion washington redskins!!!!!
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FRPLG...lets dish the T.O. idea. Gibbs has no room for that ego on his roster.
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I think the most important asset for the #2 wide receiver is the most basic:
Good Hands
I think that was Taylor Jacobs' downfall. He couldn't hold on to the football. I KNOW that was Rod Gardner's problem. Size and speed are great but what if they just can't catch it and hold it when they get speared by the SS. IMO, good hands are what set Moss and Cooley apart this year.
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dont u wish we had rod gardner bak about now?

i kno i do

o yea and lets dish the T.O. idea b/c gibbs has no room for that ego on his roster.
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by the way 70 chip...rod gardner is about to win a super bowl with the panthers so its hard to rag on him now.
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by the way 70 chip...rod gardner is about to win a super bowl with the panthers so its hard to rag on him now.
He was cut by the Panthers about a month ago (now with the Packers) and the Panthers aren't even in the Super Bowl....so not too hard to rag on him.
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i know this is like totally dumb but like in madden 06' i love the big "possesion like receviers, theyre easier to hit, maybe we should take a bigger receiver into consideration, not b.c of madden because they can move the chains, make a critical 3rd down catch jst by jumping over a smaller cornerback......
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hahah, rod gardner was an ass....btw wat does IMO mean??
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Randle El would be great, or so would Reggie Wayne, who happened to be Santana's roomate at The U. So those guys would be great, as for a "possion" receiver T.O. would look good in a skins jersey, if he had a really complicated one year deal, I'd take a chance for a ring. That man can play football, but I'd still rather have Randle El or Wayne.


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why do people get hung up on size.i agree with saden,create space and catch the ball.i would love randle el.and hell no to T.O.we need a receiver that can catch ,to me size doesnt matter.pac man jones was a first rounder last year and he is about 5'9" so not all the corners are getting bigger
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T.O. can catch, face it. By the way I just said I would do it, none of what we are saying is actually going to happen. We won't have cap room to sign these types of guys.
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Randle-El is not the answer. I do not understand the buzz about him, either. First of all the reason that Pitts will let him go is because he isn't as good as Cedric Wilson.

Look at his stats: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...?playerId=3590

His best year was 43 catches for 600 yards and 3 TDs <crickets chirping>.

He isn't even as good as Patten, he fumbles too much, and his hands are Gardneresque. How would he help the team?

There are better options out there.
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Randle-El is not the answer. I do not understand the buzz about him, either. First of all the reason that Pitts will let him go is because he isn't as good as Cedric Wilson.

Look at his stats: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...?playerId=3590

His best year was 43 catches for 600 yards and 3 TDs <crickets chirping>.

He isn't even as good as Patten, he fumbles too much, and his hands are Gardneresque. How would he help the team?

There are better options out there.
Reggie Wayne is really the only better option that I could see for us but he is going to want way to much money and who knows if he is going to work in a system without Manning and Harrison. Who are your "better options" and why are they better? and I would say Randle El is better than Patten and a lot younger, and if Cedric Wilson is better than Randle El why isn't he starting?
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FRPLG...lets dish the T.O. idea. Gibbs has no room for that ego on his roster.
Umm where did I suggest that? I am last one around here who would even consider that. TO = NO.
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i kno i do
Yeah no.

Lets have a raise of hands on who wants Gardner back....
No one? Oh wait there's one.
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I would rather have any of these guys then Randle-El:

David Givens NE
Josh Reed Buf
Antonio Bryant Cle
Eric Moulds Buf
Kevin Johnson Det
Peerless Price Dal
Koren Robinson Min
David Boston Mia

Why are they better options, because almost every one of them has shown that they can produce at the NFL level. Something that Randle-el has never done. Cedric Wilson was the go to guy in the playoff game and had 80 less yards over the course of the season (which was Wilson's first in the system).

What makes him better than Patten??? Patten has had two 800 yard seasons and had 7 tds in one year. El has 7 tds in his career (excluding playoffs).

What is your evidence except that you "think" he is better. The Redskins need a producer at the #2.

Randle-El has bust written all over him.
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I would rather have Gardner than Randle-el. At least Gardner can create a mismatch once or twice a season.
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I agree with Grim21Reeper. I 've never understood all the talk about Randle El being a #2 here. Then Grim shows the stats, The only difference between Patton and Randle El is Patton has 3 rings.
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Reggie Wayne is really the only better option that I could see for us but he is going to want way to much money and who knows if he is going to work in a system without Manning and Harrison. Who are your "better options" and why are they better? and I would say Randle El is better than Patten and a lot younger, and if Cedric Wilson is better than Randle El why isn't he starting?
He's franchised in Indy, so we're not getting him regardless.
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