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Old 11-04-2021, 08:03 AM   #1471
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racism has been baked in to the very fabric of the United States and social justice actions need to be taken to counter it.
Let’s ignore the problem ^ and twist it so far down the rabbit hole of blame that it just goes away.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:14 AM   #1472
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Guess voter fraud is only a thing when Democrats win.
I’m sure it will be back when necessary.
Just read chico's postings .He is the typical right wing nut .says something stupid gets called on it and ignores it. He is almost upset he can't scream stolen election. It bothers him that Dems are taking the loss as adults.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:14 AM   #1473
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The 1619 Project - ah yes I remember learning about that in the third grade.

CRT is the latest manufactured crisis - fear drives conservatives to the polls, not policy.
Policy is at the center here in Virginia

What drove folks to smack down a major policing reforms in Minneapolis? When you look at the yes/no votes, blacks were the driving force rejecting the policy…so you would say the white progressives who voted yes manufacturing crisis?

Also what drove a massive mail in ballot campaign to reject a socialist in Buffalo?

And please explain New Jersey…how did that happen? That’s the key everything here.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:20 AM   #1474
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Policy is at the center here in Virginia

What drove folks to smack down a major policing reforms in Minneapolis? When you look at the yes/no votes, blacks were the driving force rejecting the policy…so you would say the white progressives who voted yes manufacturing crisis?

Also what drove a massive mail in ballot campaign to reject a socialist in Buffalo?

And please explain New Jersey…how did that happen? That’s the key everything here.

Do you even know what you are asking? Is this a question ? Hard to follow. You are all over the map literally and figuratively. What is your point? Is it that blacks dont want police reform? Whites manufactured a police/black crisis and blacks saw thru it? Lol. Wow.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:21 AM   #1475
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Policy is at the center here in Virginia

What drove folks to smack down a major policing reforms in Minneapolis? When you look at the yes/no votes, blacks were the driving force rejecting the policy…so you would say the white progressives who voted yes manufacturing crisis?

Also what drove a massive mail in ballot campaign to reject a socialist in Buffalo?

And please explain New Jersey…how did that happen? That’s the key everything here.
LOL, you're trying way to hard to create a smoking gun when one does not exist.


New jersey...

New Jersey governor says he is "humbled" to be first Democratic governor reelected since 1977
Gov. Phil Murphy thanked the voters of New Jersey


And in cities across the country, Democrats dominated mayoral races, according to CNN projections — but offered mixed messages on the direction of the party, with progressives securing historic wins in Boston and Pittsburgh, while a moderate champion was crowned in New York City.

Minneapolis rejected a measure to overhaul its police department in a closely watched vote that showed the backlash against a protest movement that followed the murder of George Floyd by a police officer in 2020.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...-21/index.html
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:24 AM   #1476
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The 1619 Project - ah yes I remember learning about that in the third grade.

CRT is the latest manufactured crisis - fear drives conservatives to the polls, not policy.
CRT aside…a big issue…but the education policy are much more.

The teachers unions fucked up bigtime in NOT getting kids back in school in the last year. They asked for certain things and got them in order to return to classroom…and still refused. Now they are gaslighting says they did try and did return. This bullshit cost them. Grades suffered

Some city governments are doing away with gifted and talented programs? That’s a failure policy as well.

Mental health toll of kids not in school and absurd masking policies…cost them

CRT is a part, but not close to the only reason.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:29 AM   #1477
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Do you even know what you are asking? Is this a question ? Hard to follow. You are all over the map literally and figuratively. What is your point? Is it that blacks dont want police reform? Whites manufactured a police/black crisis and blacks saw thru it? Lol. Wow.
The defund the police is a white progressive movement that minority don’t support. But because race is center at the police reform…you would think the support would be there correct? It’s not…and is not covered by the media.

You don’t think this is poignant in this particular policy reform? I can’t help you then
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The defund the police is a white progressive movement that minority don’t support. But because race is center at the police reform…you would think the support would be there correct?

So you think the BLM movement is run by "white progressives"?

chico you get Police reform mixed up with defund the Police ,two different things.
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You started the damn thread. Lol
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You started the damn thread. Lol
It stayed fresh for like 2 posts. Should have named it Same Shit, Different Day, Political Thread.

We're probably ready for a new one again lol. But I'll let someone else start/name it.
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Old 11-04-2021, 08:58 AM   #1482
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The defund the police is a white progressive movement that minority don’t support. But because race is center at the police reform…you would think the support would be there correct? It’s not…and is not covered by the media.

You don’t think this is poignant in this particular policy reform? I can’t help you then

Defund is Reform. Everyone knows that. It is just like the “take your guns away” instead of “gun reform”. Basically leave well enough alone it doesn’t affect me personally. It is what the right does best. Than you get your hands on CRT and dismantle and reassemble that into a left wing reverse racism huge knot. Where do you get the impression that blacks do not support police reform? Because I assure you it is misguided if not a straight falsehood.
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The defund the police is a white progressive movement that majority don’t support. But because race is center at the police reform…you would think the support would be there correct? It’s not…and is not covered by the media.

You don’t think this is poignant in this particular policy reform? I can’t help you then
FTFY.

If the majority of the population supported defunding the police - it would happen.
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Defund is Reform. Everyone knows that. It is just like the “take your guns away” instead of “gun reform”. Basically leave well enough alone it doesn’t affect me personally. It is what the right does best. Than you get your hands on CRT and dismantle and reassemble that into a left wing reverse racism huge knot. Where do you get the impression that blacks do not support police reform? Because I assure you it is misguided if not a straight falsehood.
Lol…this is perfect.

Take the issue, reword and redefine it for you. Then act like I said something else with your new definition and strawman it.

Bro you know I love u, but come on man. The Minneapolis police removal bill was not supported by minorities which is inline with their opposition of defund the police strategies across the country. Defund the police is a largely white progressives issue which doesn’t have much support
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Old 11-04-2021, 09:20 AM   #1485
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Lol…this is perfect.

Take the issue, reword and redefine it for you. Then act like I said something else with your new definition and strawman.
Did you just take my post and basically say i know you are but what am i?

Chico do you think police reform based on the treatment of blacks across America is necessary? Yes or no?

The black leaders in Minneapolis did not reject police reform. They rejected how to go about it. But you and the right would like to say “see everything’s cool nobody wants change” and walk away. It is what you are doing here.

https://apnews.com/article/death-of-...a3b11dfeded76b

There are clearly young folks, liberals, who are moving with blind rage - for good reason- but without preparation for the future. This doesn’t negate the problem and certainly does not speak for minorities or liberals in general. Saying “see they dont want change” is wrong on the rights part too. More wrong actually than just going about getting change without considering repercussions.
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