The Haskins Threat

PorkSkins · 10-25-2019, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What really bothered me was there was a shot on the sidelines after a offensive series and Ko is sitting down w/ Case, there's Colt also in street clothes and those three were going over stuff. Where was Haskins? He wasn't in on the conversation at all. He's the backup, not Colt. Then I went back to what Lombardi was saying about him and that goes back to the culture thing. Then he goes out there and takes a terrible sack, has a terrible int and could have had another one.

He also seemed aloof in the presser after last night's game. The one thing I'm waiting for from Haskins is that one "Wow! That was nice!" play from him. I've yet to see that type of play from him in his limited time.

skinsfan69 · 10-25-2019, 02:43 PM

Still too early to call him a bust but what my eyes and gut tells me isn't right.

CRedskinsRule · 10-25-2019, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PorkSkins

He also seemed aloof in the presser after last night's game. The one thing I'm waiting for from Haskins is that one "Wow! That was nice!" play from him. I've yet to see that type of play from him in his limited time.

The pass to AP and one bomb in preseason both highlighted his arm skill and the AP pass particularly was a tight on the line high speed pass.

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BigHairedAristocrat · 10-25-2019, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

The thought of calling a guy a bust after limited action in two relief appearances is just absurd.

I cant speak for everyone, but I'm not calling him a bust after limited action in two relief appearances. I thought he would be a bust before the draft. The most concerning thing is, not his play on the field, but his poor demeanor, attitude, and seeming disinterest over the course of the season. He's a bust until he proves otherwise. Those are not qualities you want to see in someone Allen (foolishly) invested the 15th overall pick in.

PorkSkins · 10-25-2019, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The pass to AP and one bomb in preseason both highlighted his arm skill and the AP pass particularly was a tight on the line high speed pass.

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I've mentioned his arm talent before, and spoke on it again after last night's game. But I haven't really been "Wow'ed" in his limited action, so far, this season.

PorkSkins · 10-25-2019, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Still too early to call him a bust but what my eyes and gut tells me isn't right.

This is somewhat where I am at the moment. Another thing is he seems to lack poise. I'm big on a QB possessing poise.

MTK · 10-25-2019, 03:18 PM

Of course he doesn't look right. We knew from day 1 he was going to be a project. Until just recently he wasn't getting any practice snaps and the limited time we've seen him has been coming off the bench.

MTK · 10-25-2019, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I cant speak for everyone, but I'm not calling him a bust after limited action in two relief appearances. I thought he would be a bust before the draft. The most concerning thing is, not his play on the field, but his poor demeanor, attitude, and seeming disinterest over the course of the season. He's a bust until he proves otherwise. Those are not qualities you want to see in someone Allen (foolishly) invested the 15th overall pick in.

I'm just not seeing the same thing.

Chico23231 · 10-25-2019, 03:47 PM

I swear to the high heavens, these mutherfuckers need to have Haskins ready to play in Buffalo. The rest of year means nothing. Get Haskins in there now

MTK · 10-25-2019, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I swear to the high heavens, these mutherfuckers need to have Haskins ready to play in Buffalo. The rest of year means nothing. Get Haskins in there now

Seriously, they've got 11 days to get a game plan installed for him. Give him a limited package of things he's comfortable with. Screens, quick slants, one read stuff, no audibles just let him throw hot. Why can every other team with a rookie QB get them up to speed and we have to keep hearing how our guy isn't ready?

You know who's laughing over this not ready crap? The Shanahans. They took Griffin and molded an entire offense around him and he won ROY. I'm done with this not ready BS. Get him ready.

Warthog · 10-25-2019, 04:12 PM

I know Haskins has many issues and he may end up being a first round bust. BUT YOU’VE GOT TO KEEP PLAYING HIM - NOW. He may or may not be able to correct his happy feet and his other significant problems. But the longer he DOESN’T play the longer it takes for us to find out if he has the innate and trainable aspects to being an elite QB. I’ve seen draft bust QB for the Redskins from Heath Shuler, to Jason Campbell to RG3 to Cousins and now to Haskins. He will need to play probably 20-30 games before he can be officially a bust. That’s what happened to all these others. In Jason Campbell’s case he sat for 1.5 seasons before he played and the result was the same. So let the training and evaluation process begin NOW. We may win one more game with Case in there. It’s not worth it.

Somewhere in the 2020 draft the Redskins will need to pick a QB project player (like Cousins). But the draft must concentrate on the OL. TW and Moses must be replaced. Maybe even Scherff. The new HC will come here with the assignment to maximize Haskins and then see if he’s the future.

Finally, there is not much of a fan base left for the Redskins. Every “home game” has far more opposing team supporters than ours. EVERY game is an away game. Ppl will support Haskins for a year or two. Then he’s either there or not. Play him now, warts and all!

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rocnrik · 10-25-2019, 04:48 PM

The new head coach will want to be able to say who the QB is on this team .. if they don’t believe in Haskins then they should not be forced to play him .. if he plays the rest of season at least we will know what his ability is .. I don’t think we win another game and should have top 3 pick in draft .. we do have options ..

skinsfan69 · 10-25-2019, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

Seriously, they've got 11 days to get a game plan installed for him. Give him a limited package of things he's comfortable with. Screens, quick slants, one read stuff, no audibles just let him throw hot. Why can every other team with a rookie QB get them up to speed and we have to keep hearing how our guy isn't ready?

You know who's laughing over this not ready crap? The Shanahans. They took Griffin and molded an entire offense around him and he won ROY. I'm done with this not ready BS. Get him ready.

I agree but much easier to mold an offense around a guy who can run for a 1,000 yards.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-25-2019, 05:23 PM

The most telling thing to me, beyond what we've seen on the field which has been bad enough, is the fact that his teammates are saying he's not ready. Does that change after ONE full week of practice/reps with the 1s...I don't see it, but maybe he'll get that chance and prove me wrong.

I'm not a fan of him starting mostly because this team is still fighting their asses off. There's obvious holes, and the offense hasn't been good, but they are still fighting. I think they are fighting because they still believe they have a chance to win these games. Does that continue if the coach decides to trot out a kid who gives them ZERO chance to compete? No, I don't think it does. Seriously, the players on that team want to win, and they rightfully expect the coaching staff to put in the players that give them the best shot at doing that.

httr198020 · 10-25-2019, 07:55 PM

I'm just going to be completely honest with you guys. I was very excited when we drafted Haskins. I understand that there will be growing pains. However, this guy doesn't even look functional at this point. He can't even run a vanilla offense. We made a mistake. This guy doesn't have it. I hope I am wrong.

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10-25-2019, 02:43 PM	#122
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,265	Re: The Haskins Threat Still too early to call him a bust but what my eyes and gut tells me isn't right.

10-25-2019, 03:18 PM	#127
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,464	Re: The Haskins Threat Of course he doesn't look right. We knew from day 1 he was going to be a project. Until just recently he wasn't getting any practice snaps and the limited time we've seen him has been coming off the bench. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-25-2019, 03:47 PM	#129
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,419	Re: The Haskins Threat I swear to the high heavens, these mutherfuckers need to have Haskins ready to play in Buffalo. The rest of year means nothing. Get Haskins in there now __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

10-25-2019, 04:12 PM	#131
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	Re: The Haskins Thread I know Haskins has many issues and he may end up being a first round bust. BUT YOU’VE GOT TO KEEP PLAYING HIM - NOW. He may or may not be able to correct his happy feet and his other significant problems. But the longer he DOESN’T play the longer it takes for us to find out if he has the innate and trainable aspects to being an elite QB. I’ve seen draft bust QB for the Redskins from Heath Shuler, to Jason Campbell to RG3 to Cousins and now to Haskins. He will need to play probably 20-30 games before he can be officially a bust. That’s what happened to all these others. In Jason Campbell’s case he sat for 1.5 seasons before he played and the result was the same. So let the training and evaluation process begin NOW. We may win one more game with Case in there. It’s not worth it. Somewhere in the 2020 draft the Redskins will need to pick a QB project player (like Cousins). But the draft must concentrate on the OL. TW and Moses must be replaced. Maybe even Scherff. The new HC will come here with the assignment to maximize Haskins and then see if he’s the future. Finally, there is not much of a fan base left for the Redskins. Every “home game” has far more opposing team supporters than ours. EVERY game is an away game. Ppl will support Haskins for a year or two. Then he’s either there or not. Play him now, warts and all! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

10-25-2019, 04:48 PM	#132
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,683	Re: The Haskins Threat The new head coach will want to be able to say who the QB is on this team .. if they don’t believe in Haskins then they should not be forced to play him .. if he plays the rest of season at least we will know what his ability is .. I don’t think we win another game and should have top 3 pick in draft .. we do have options ..

10-25-2019, 05:23 PM	#134
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,595	Re: The Haskins Threat The most telling thing to me, beyond what we've seen on the field which has been bad enough, is the fact that his teammates are saying he's not ready. Does that change after ONE full week of practice/reps with the 1s...I don't see it, but maybe he'll get that chance and prove me wrong. I'm not a fan of him starting mostly because this team is still fighting their asses off. There's obvious holes, and the offense hasn't been good, but they are still fighting. I think they are fighting because they still believe they have a chance to win these games. Does that continue if the coach decides to trot out a kid who gives them ZERO chance to compete? No, I don't think it does. Seriously, the players on that team want to win, and they rightfully expect the coaching staff to put in the players that give them the best shot at doing that.

10-25-2019, 07:55 PM	#135
httr198020 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 277	Re: The Haskins Threat I'm just going to be completely honest with you guys. I was very excited when we drafted Haskins. I understand that there will be growing pains. However, this guy doesn't even look functional at this point. He can't even run a vanilla offense. We made a mistake. This guy doesn't have it. I hope I am wrong.

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