Skins vs. Cards Positives + Negatives

[Dirtbag59]

And so it begins:
Talk in Washington of benching Kirk Cousins for Colt McCoy | ProFootballTalk

Kirk Cousins played so well in his first two games this season that coach Jay Gruden was open to the possibility of Cousins keeping the starting job in Washington even after Robert Griffin III returns. Cousins has played so badly since then that there’s talk in Washington of benching him for third-stringer Colt McCoy.

Brian Mitchell, who played in Washington for 10 seasons and is now a commentator, said on Comcast SportsNet’s post-game show that benching Cousins would make a lot of sense right now.

“I think we have to hold Kirk to the same standard we held Robert to. And if Kirk Cousins can’t get the job done, then there’s another quarterback sitting there,” Mitchell said, via Dan Steinberg of the Washington Post. “Colt McCoy is the next guy out there. I don’t see what the problem would be.

The problem would be that McCoy, who was the Browns’ starter in 2010 and 2011, has done nothing to make anyone think he’s a competent NFL quarterback. Unfortunately, neither has Cousins: Washington has lost four straight games, and Cousins’ three-interception fourth quarter on Sunday doomed any chance the team had of beating the Cardinals. Cousins now has two different three-interception quarters this season; Griffin has never thrown three interceptions in a game.

Benching Cousins for McCoy probably isn’t something Gruden would consider. But Gruden is also probably no longer considering keeping Cousins at the helm once Griffin heals. If nothing else, Cousins has removed any doubt that there shouldn’t be a quarterback controversy in Washington, unless it’s a controversy about whether Cousins or McCoy is next on the depth chart after RG3.

Though to be fair in regards to B-Mitch's comments the standard for RG3 among most of the fan base is that RG3 is the starter until we know for sure that he can't play in this league. If Cousins is held to that same standard no way he gets benched before RG3's return which at this point can't come soon enough.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I really hope no one starts talking about trading KC for a second rounder or something insane. With the right team he might be an effective game manager but a team with those pieces could probably get a KC type without trading away draft picks.

I'd take anything between the 4th and 6th rounds for Cousins. Let McCoy be the backup next year, use the 7th round pick on a QB to groom as the backup QB.

Use the pick we get in the trade to use to build depth at any one of the unlimited holes on this team.

*there is no way in hell any team is offering higher than a 4th rounder.

P.s. I liked cousins coming out of the draft even before we got rgiii. I was mistaken.

[SFREDSKIN]

I would bring back Casserly back as GM, promote BA to VP.

[sdskinsfan2001]

With our top 5 pick I'd like to try and move down a few spots and get Landon Collins or PJ Williams. We need to get a playmaker in the secondary. We force 0 turnovers.

This team has so many holes, but i feel like we need to use higher picks on secondary players and middle rounders beefing up the o-line. I really hope that at least one out of Long/Moses is starting material next year.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We just need to be smarter about the ones we do draft/sign

Isn't that on your boy Dougie Williams? Talent scout for free agents? How the fuck did Lauvao get that kind of contract and why?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Isn't that on your boy Dougie Williams? Talent scout for free agents? How the fuck did Lauvao get that kind of contract and why?

You can say the same about Porter and Riley.

[skinsguy]

1) Kirk Cousins is who SmootSmack thought he was. He just fooled the rest of us!
2) I'd rather see Colt McCoy at this point. But honestly, I'm about ready to tune out until RGIII is back on the field.
3) 20 years of losing - and Dan Snyder has owned the team for about 15 of those years. If you can't figure it out within 15-20 years, you have no business being in the football business.
4) I hate the gold pants. Hate them! Bring back the burgundy pants and white tops. The great Redskins teams I knew growing up wore those unis week in and week out.
5) I like lists!
6) This team won't be winners until we have a competent front office. From the owner down to the position coaches. I'm not saying we have the wrong folks in every position, but we have the wrong folks in the front office. Keep Bruce as a money/contract man and nothing else.
7) Move the team out of Maryland. Let Maryland have its Ravens - the Redskins don't belong in Maryland.
8) I used to be so optimistic to the point of it being sickening. Not anymore. I see no light at the end of the tunnel unless some major changes happen within the next season or two. I mean something dramatic.
9)I wished I had access to every game the Redskins played during the 1980's. I'd rather watch those games on Sunday in place of what the product gives us nowadays. I honestly think even the games I'd watch them lose would be better quality effort than what I see nowadays.
10) I'm not sure what else to say that hasn't already be said. I just couldn't end on an odd number.

[Evilgrin]

They need to draft players for whatever scheme they want to play.

Kirk Cousins never had me fooled, check my post history....

Long as Snyder owns the team, it will be hard to win.

They have players they can build around, but realistically its less then 10 or so. Shanahan who kept saying they had nothing when he started, basicly left them with nothing. It's just too dysfunctional, they hire dysfunctional delusional people. I don't think Jay Gruden is, but I don't see how he can win with what he has here.

[Meks]

I absolutely cannot believe that fuckin 'call on the field' fumble fucking stood after review with Roberts knee down and the ball still in his arms. Absolute fucking disgrace like 100% of the other Redskins game this year. Almost unwatchable the way we get penalized 68% more than every team we play, when they HOLD orakpo 80% of the time he rushes. They review a play that is 100% consensus amongst every viewer announcer retired ref you name it... And they fuck that up too, against us of course. Fuckin refs. If we ever do get a chance to win again this season? Don't worry they will be there to fuck us, grab your KY kids.

Fuck the bullshit.

[KI Skins Fan]

The QB decision is easy. You play every game to win. The team needs a win. Kirk has had his chances and he has failed to get the job done. That's why it's time for Colt to start until RGIII returns.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Meks

I absolutely cannot believe that fuckin 'call on the field' fumble fucking stood after review with Roberts knee down and the ball still in his arms. Absolute fucking disgrace like 100% of the other Redskins game this year. Almost unwatchable the way we get penalized 68% more than every team we play, when they HOLD orakpo 80% of the time he rushes. They review a play that is 100% consensus amongst every viewer announcer retired ref you name it... And they fuck that up too, against us of course. Fuckin refs. If we ever do get a chance to win again this season? Don't worry they will be there to fuck us, grab your KY kids.

Fuck the bullshit.

Get off the refs. Your anger is misplaced. We're losing because we are playing poorly.

[hagams]

Not only are we playing poorly, but we are commiting stupid mistakes while doing so. Agreed, the fumble play was bad, but so was the one against DJax 5 yards out of bounds. We are who we thought we were....garbage.

[SirLK26]

We were a 3-13 team last year. These last two games have been against the defending Super Bowl champs and another team who went 10-6 and would have made the playoffs in any other division. As far as the playoffs go, that's out of the question for us and was from the start for those were realistic about our chances. However, the the schedule gets easier from here on out and we can at least hope for a less-than-horrible finish. Maybe 5-5 or 4-6? If we lose to Tennessee though, all hope for having a decent first season under Gruden is gone.

I hate that I'm already looking forward to the first draft prospects thread.

[Lotus]

The Kirk vs. Colt argument is a bit like rearranging deck furniture on the Titanic. Neither one is a real starter, both are stopgaps.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah I do want Colt in there. Kirk's potential value as trade bait goes down with every game he plays.

You actually think Kirk has trade value left? IMO any trade value Kirk had has now been intercepted and heading the other way.Kirk needs to play and see if he can turn it around because his trade value aint worth jack now.

Frankly I'm not worried about his trade value,I want him to get as much experience as he can,when RG3 takes back the starting job it wont be for long because I dont believe he will ever be able to stay healthy,his body was not built for football.