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Old 07-31-2012, 11:04 PM   #121
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

(Nothing against LeRib he's the kind of OL I like, I'm a draft junkie and heard about LeRib in a few articles by Gil Brandt)
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I would say that Mcribb was seen as a guy who was who they had targeted for that spot for whatever reason. Just bringing in a tackle at that spot for the same of bringing in a tackle doesn't make sense when you have a higher rated player.
Well of course 'just bringing' a player at any position for the sake of bringing a player never makes sense in that case.

Teams draft the players they have rated higher on their boards.
So according to their boards the picks they make are usually 'correct' based on their boards.
But, that doesn't make the decision correct in actuality.
Only time can judge whether or not a team made a correct evaluation in drafting vs passing on a player.

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I did specify a position in my post with a little lower case t.
My bad then, I didn' know what that lil t was, i thought it was a typo.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:04 PM   #122
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

30. I am not limiting the round of the pick and nor am I saying that we couldn't have used a tackle in the third or fourth round. There is a method to the skins FO madness and to this point they have done a decent job of turning over the team to get more productive guys.

Like I said above I would have liked to have seen a different approach in FA where there was opportunity to upgrade the position with the money that was spent on Morgan in particular.

I am sure that the RT spot is something where the Skins are looking for a long term solution but during this offseason and draft they didn't find the "right" player to put their resources into.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:04 PM   #123
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

When did the RT position become so important in lieu of everything else?
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:05 PM   #124
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When did the RT position become so important in lieu of everything else?
I don't know when did?
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:09 PM   #125
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(Nothing against LeRib he's the kind of OL I like, I'm a draft junkie and heard about LeRib in a few articles by Gil Brandt)

Well of course 'just bringing' a player at any position for the sake of bringing a player never makes sense in that case.

Teams draft the players they have rated higher on their boards.
So according to their boards the picks they make are usually 'correct' based on their boards.
But, that doesn't make the decision correct in actuality.
Only time can judge whether or not a team made a correct evaluation in drafting vs passing on a player.

My bad then, I didn' know what that lil t was, i thought it was a typo.
I agree with you 100% on the fact that teams don't make the correct decisions in the draft based on their ratings. If they did I am sure players would have longer average careers the 3 years and hell we may not even need to have a seven round draft every year.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:10 PM   #126
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

Hey at least it's something to talk about.

Better than some of the conversations that were going on prior to training camp.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:12 PM   #127
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What type of camp is Massie having right now? He's probably getting run over the "Rob Jacksons" of the league...
this made me laugh...Poor ole Willie, Rob Jackson is just playin to rough for him. Go over and sit between Kory L and effing Jamal Brown on the bench.


Dear Baby Jesus, please turn Tom "City of" Compton into a average RT.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:15 PM   #128
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Re: We've got big trouble on the OL.

I'm way more upset we didn't add a legit corner over this
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:16 PM   #129
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There is a method to the skins FO madness and to this point they have done a decent job of turning over the team to get more productive guys.
There maybe a method.
And I agree that by and large the FO is doing a good job.
It bugs the heck out of me that being critical of a specific decision somehow implies disagreement with the process as a whole.

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...but during this offseason and draft they didn't find the "right" player to put their resources into.
It can be framed in whichever light you like, but the end result was Jammal Brown.

Its just that with a rookie QB, heading into a fairly important season (record-wise) it would be nice to have a more solid solution at RT.
Imo murphy laws applies to football and wherever a team has a weakness or lack of depth that is gonna become the critical area/weakest link.
A weak link on the OL can serious hinder an offense, especially an offense trying to bring along a rookie QB.

I'm hopeful that Tyler will step up, I'm actually assuming that Tyler had to factor into the FO comfort level at the RT position.

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Old 07-31-2012, 11:24 PM   #130
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Hey at least it's something to talk about.

Better than some of the conversations that were going on prior to training camp.
True.
And i'm a guy that likes the OL and running game by nature so this discussion is right up my alley.
I was fretting about RT all offseason.

I wonder how long it will take for people to get interested in talking about the Pistol formation?

Good convo-
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:37 PM   #131
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Drafting for need over BPA is never a good plan.
I say it depends. If you have two players that are one or two points apart on your board and one fits a need then generally speaking the one that fits the need is obviously the better fit.

I feel like the part where teams get in trouble comes when they reach past 5 or 10 available players for a guy that happens to fit a need.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:41 PM   #132
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I'm way more upset we didn't add a legit corner over this
Yep.

But hey we did get a qb!
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:48 PM   #133
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True.
And i'm a guy that likes the OL and running game by nature so this discussion is right up my alley.
I was fretting about RT all offseason.

I wonder how long it will take for people to get interested in talking about the Pistol formation?

Good convo-
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I know you are all about the big guys up front!

I also knew we had a few holes to fill this year. #1 QB # 2-7 being CB, OL across the board, WR, and Both Safety positions. We got a few players to fill those needs. (we hope and pray!)

Good talking to you 30.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:00 AM   #134
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LT Willie Smith
LG Mo Hurt
C Monty
RG Chris Chester
RT Tyler Polumbus


These guys were the starters in the last 4 games for us and they performed well.

So all you chicken littles, remind me again of why we should be panicking?
If we had to go a full season with these guys I'd be pretty concerned.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:15 AM   #135
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When did the RT position become so important in lieu of everything else?
When the opportunity arose to pick apart the decisions of the front office again based on a little injury news.

Fact of the matter is I'd rather this happen now than after week 1. At least KL is expected back for the regular season.
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