Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

[hagams]

Oh yeah, I see it now. He messed up and had the best run of the game while running for his life, after being sacked 4 times already? Yeah, and then when he hit Fred Davis in the hands on BOTH 2pt conversions which he dropped. That would have put twice the pressure on Detroit to score a TD at the end.

This thread is horse sh@t. It was the same thing last year with JC. OMG, he needs to go, he's the only reason we are losing. We UPGRADED the QB, and a picked up a solid O-line starter. Gee, same situation. You can blame the QB if you want, but the Offense in general lost today's game. Maybe it's like the guy said about the order of reads. To me, if the pressure it tearing your QB a new one, you need to adjust and find shorter routes. I don't think I saw any screen passes to combat their eagerness. Bad day for the Offense, and we got out coached.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by mredskins

i feel like this thread in time will look much like the LL is bust thread, can't wait for that day!

I doubt it. LL is one of the best at his position in the league while Mc5 IMO is probably the worst QB in the NFCE. Don't hold your breath on this one.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

i feel like this thread in time will look much like the LL is bust thread, can't wait for that day!

I'm thinking the same thing.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The thing about Rex being the better option for the 2 minute drill is BS. It's an excuse, don't look too far into it. DM got benched, simple as that.

I'm annoyed that McNabb doesn't have a better grasp on the offense at this point.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dread-Skin

Did anyone else read Kyle Shan's lips like he said, "What is he doing- What is that? when McNabb called or setup the play wrong?

This game is a nightmare to sit on for 2 weeks. Im horrified that coach feels Rex is more reliable to run a 2 minute game winning drive over DM.

Where do we go from here? Rex can't be the future- Im not even thrilled for him to be plan B but what Free Agents will be on the market next year?

We needed Torrain bad- Im eager to hear how he is recovering.

Word from the sidelines was the Shanahans were beyond pissed about DMs throw there. I think they let their emotions get the best if them too soon. Though I'm not sure McNabb wouldn't have fumbled either, like Grossman did. Torain should be fine not having him and Portis hurt big time

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by LavaRnChad

I doubt it. LL is one of the best at his position in the league while Mc5 IMO is probably the worst QB in the NFCE. Don't hold your breath on this one.

Swing...and a miss

[T.O.Killa]

I never blamed McNabb for his lack of success during this game. He played great considering how terrible his line play. I was absolutely stunned to see he got benched. I really feel like I lost allot of confidence in our coaching staff today. That was a knee jerk reaction to a horrible offensive line. I guess them being on the field gave them a false sense of what was going wrong out there. I think when they watch the film Lichtenstieger and Rabach might get cut, and for god sakes put Dockery in there.

[GMScud]

I have no idea if or when McNabb will get his extension, but I can safely say that this team could just as easily have this exact same record with Jason Campbell. McNabb has been on the poor side of average for a big chunk of the first half of the season (rating of 76 and he's thrown more picks than TDs). Also, prior to this year, McNabb has played in the same system for the same coach his entree career. One thing JC is obviously better at doing than DM is learning a new offensive system. He does it every year. And JC is certainly used to running for his life and having no time to throw to mediocre WR's behind a bumblef*ck line.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jason is a better QB than Donovan. However with this shit O-line and a brand new system, I think don't he'd have us in any worse of a position.

I just wonder if we can get an O-line and receiving corps together in time for McNabb to produce at a high level before age catches up to him. Provided he signs an extension that is.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

The fact is Shanahan has been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season long. When it worked, it appeared as though we had some sleepers [on the roster] who might be keepers. When it didn't, particularly along the offensive line and at wide receiver, those deficiencies were glaring and obvious.

This Redskins team have one legitimate starting caliber lineman along the offensive front, and that's Trent Williams. The rest of the bums are probably back-ups on most, if not all, NFL rosters. Every single one of them.

From a fan's perspective, the question is has Shanahan and Co. done everything in their power to put this team in the best position to compete and win? On most days, the answer is probably yes. But there have been some head scratchers in terms of personnel decisions along the way: The Haynesworth love hate game. Devin Thomas, if not a bona-fide threat, certainly a physical talent being released in favor of a cadre of training camp rejects. Then benching and de-activating Derrick Dockery in favor of Lichensteiger (or whatever the hell is name is), for what appears to be Dockery either not grasping or fitting the system properly. Sure Derrick Dockery is no Pro-Bowler but, really, you don't even suit up Dockery for the game as you watch the Lions pin McNabb to the turf every other play? The coaches obviously knows what's best, but have some of these moves and decisions come at the expense of fielding the best 53? Truth is we may never really know the answer to that question, but it's a question that must be asked nonetheless.

Thus far this season has come down to some gutsy performances by a very inconsistent, and at times struggling, Donovan McNabb and a handful of all star, individual performances. In other words, the coaching staff, while dramitically better than last year's version, has rarely outcoached the other side this year. It's been all left up to the talent on the field.

Most thoughtful post in an otherwise dreadful thread.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I have no idea if or when McNabb will get his extension, but I can safely say that this team could just as easily have this exact same record with Jason Campbell. McNabb has been on the poor side of average for a big chunk of the first half of the season (rating of 76 and he's thrown more picks than TDs). Also, prior to this year, McNabb has played in the same system for the same coach his entree career. One thing JC is obviously better at doing than DM is learning a new offensive system. He does it every year. And JC is certainly used to running for his life and having no time to throw to mediocre WR's behind a bumblef*ck line.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jason is a better QB than Donovan. However with this shit O-line and a brand new system, I think don't he'd have us in any worse of a position.

I just wonder if we can get an O-line and receiving corps together in time for McNabb to produce at a high level before age catches up to him. Provided he signs an extension that is.

Not really. McNabb, to his credit, has extended a fair share of plays. Trading Campbell for a 4th rounder was a good move since he really wasn't going to ever "wake up" here.

That said, maybe they should have just saved this season for rebuilding and kept the picks given up for McNabb. If Shanny wasn't so in love with the 3-4, we could have had Lamarr Houston and slowly have begun the process of competing with the other teams for the best and deepest D-line in the division.

[LavaRnChad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Swing...and a miss

We'll see! But after watching our QB play in 7 out of 8 games, looks like I'm not the only one that's missing. The Shannys confirmed that by putting in Rex with the game still in reach. Just sayin...

[skins89moss]

Our offense likes to go deep with play action but when the Lions D-line lived in our backfield all day we were in trouble. From the 1st series on offense our O-line got their ass handed to them by the Lions. Our O-line played like garbage and we need to find a center cause Rabach got Bit** slapped all day. McNabb has struggle in the passing game but when you have Galloway as your #3 WR it should be a crime. You telling me Terrence Austin cant do what Galloway is doing in the offense, which is nothing. We have a lot of work and it will not be fixed his season.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I have no idea if or when McNabb will get his extension, but I can safely say that this team could just as easily have this exact same record with Jason Campbell. McNabb has been on the poor side of average for a big chunk of the first half of the season (rating of 76 and he's thrown more picks than TDs). Also, prior to this year, McNabb has played in the same system for the same coach his entree career. One thing JC is obviously better at doing than DM is learning a new offensive system. He does it every year. And JC is certainly used to running for his life and having no time to throw to mediocre WR's behind a bumblef*ck line.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jason is a better QB than Donovan. However with this shit O-line and a brand new system, I think don't he'd have us in any worse of a position.

I just wonder if we can get an O-line and receiving corps together in time for McNabb to produce at a high level before age catches up to him. Provided he signs an extension that is.

I agree with your conclusions.

I have no desire to defend or detract from McNabb until I see this one again. I thought the QB change was inspired, but ultimately, you could make a logical argument that it cost us our best chance to win the game.

I liked our chances to win prior to McNabb's 4th qtr INT. I didn't think we had much of a chance after we got the ball back down three points inside two minutes. We couldn't get a first down in four downs after the Johnson touchdown, and I kind of doubt that another four downs would have yielded a different result.

Remember, we got dangerously close to bailing out McNabb by forcing a turnover on downs. That TD to Calvin was threaded through tight coverage, but what probably isn't getting enough pub is that it came on a fourth and one play. If we break that up, it's our football.

I don't know how much of it is McNabb's fault or how much of it is on the OL or how much should be put on Galloway (seriously, cut him, and bring up Terence Austin from the PS), and I'd prefer not to lambast McNabb only because "things just weren't working."

[GusFrerotte]

This thread is a result of a knee jerk reaction that too many folks in here have over a bad game. The O line had by far their worst outing in protecting the QB, as well as run blocking, and we have known this. Did we reallythink that Trent Williams was going to save us during season 1 of his career? We are 2-3 seasons from being anything special, and to be honest I do not see Donovan being offered an extension ever. Although the line sucks, he hasn't been that great before today's debacle at Ford Field. Two to three seasons guys, get used to it. And if Dan fires the Shanny boys it might be even longer. The entire O line except Trent needs to be replaced, we need an extra WR to compliment AA, and some quality added depth at LB and DB would be recommended. On top of that we need to draft at least one QB in the next two seasons, and maybe another in 2-3 years. In short, we simply do not have the overall personnel to compete for a title yet.

[Larry Michael is Satan]

The lack of talent on the O-line has frustrated me for YEARS, but now the sad fact is that we have a scary lack of talent at WR and RB as well. If today was any indication, QB will be a need soon too! Is it realistic to think that Santana, Portis, and McNabb will all be gone after this year? What's left?

McNabb didn't have his best game, but benching him at that critical moment, blaming him and embarrassing him, has "pissing contest" written all over it, and McNabb probably hoped to leave the drama in Philly. I see him in Arizona next season, and the Skins starting from scratch on offense.

The benching was a stupid decision in the short and long term, Im glad the camera panned to Mike Shanny when Rex got his clock cleaned on the first play in.