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Old 10-31-2010, 09:51 PM   #1
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Re: McNabb or Bust

We don't really need another thread on this
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Old 10-31-2010, 09:57 PM   #2
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Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

Pulling McNabb after that interception and then giving the ball to Grossman is like telling aceinthehouse not to start any more threads then handing the laptop to sportsfanatic.

Seriously though, D Mac should start but I can't blame Rex for that fumble really
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Old 10-31-2010, 10:02 PM   #3
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Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

i feel like this thread in time will look much like the LL is bust thread, can't wait for that day!
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:04 PM   #4
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i feel like this thread in time will look much like the LL is bust thread, can't wait for that day!
I doubt it. LL is one of the best at his position in the league while Mc5 IMO is probably the worst QB in the NFCE. Don't hold your breath on this one.
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:23 PM   #5
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I doubt it. LL is one of the best at his position in the league while Mc5 IMO is probably the worst QB in the NFCE. Don't hold your breath on this one.
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:54 PM   #6
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Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

I have no idea if or when McNabb will get his extension, but I can safely say that this team could just as easily have this exact same record with Jason Campbell. McNabb has been on the poor side of average for a big chunk of the first half of the season (rating of 76 and he's thrown more picks than TDs). Also, prior to this year, McNabb has played in the same system for the same coach his entree career. One thing JC is obviously better at doing than DM is learning a new offensive system. He does it every year. And JC is certainly used to running for his life and having no time to throw to mediocre WR's behind a bumblef*ck line.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jason is a better QB than Donovan. However with this shit O-line and a brand new system, I think don't he'd have us in any worse of a position.

I just wonder if we can get an O-line and receiving corps together in time for McNabb to produce at a high level before age catches up to him. Provided he signs an extension that is.
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I have no idea if or when McNabb will get his extension, but I can safely say that this team could just as easily have this exact same record with Jason Campbell. McNabb has been on the poor side of average for a big chunk of the first half of the season (rating of 76 and he's thrown more picks than TDs). Also, prior to this year, McNabb has played in the same system for the same coach his entree career. One thing JC is obviously better at doing than DM is learning a new offensive system. He does it every year. And JC is certainly used to running for his life and having no time to throw to mediocre WR's behind a bumblef*ck line.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jason is a better QB than Donovan. However with this shit O-line and a brand new system, I think don't he'd have us in any worse of a position.

I just wonder if we can get an O-line and receiving corps together in time for McNabb to produce at a high level before age catches up to him. Provided he signs an extension that is.
Not really. McNabb, to his credit, has extended a fair share of plays. Trading Campbell for a 4th rounder was a good move since he really wasn't going to ever "wake up" here.

That said, maybe they should have just saved this season for rebuilding and kept the picks given up for McNabb. If Shanny wasn't so in love with the 3-4, we could have had Lamarr Houston and slowly have begun the process of competing with the other teams for the best and deepest D-line in the division.
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Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

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I have no idea if or when McNabb will get his extension, but I can safely say that this team could just as easily have this exact same record with Jason Campbell. McNabb has been on the poor side of average for a big chunk of the first half of the season (rating of 76 and he's thrown more picks than TDs). Also, prior to this year, McNabb has played in the same system for the same coach his entree career. One thing JC is obviously better at doing than DM is learning a new offensive system. He does it every year. And JC is certainly used to running for his life and having no time to throw to mediocre WR's behind a bumblef*ck line.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Jason is a better QB than Donovan. However with this shit O-line and a brand new system, I think don't he'd have us in any worse of a position.

I just wonder if we can get an O-line and receiving corps together in time for McNabb to produce at a high level before age catches up to him. Provided he signs an extension that is.
I agree with your conclusions.

I have no desire to defend or detract from McNabb until I see this one again. I thought the QB change was inspired, but ultimately, you could make a logical argument that it cost us our best chance to win the game.

I liked our chances to win prior to McNabb's 4th qtr INT. I didn't think we had much of a chance after we got the ball back down three points inside two minutes. We couldn't get a first down in four downs after the Johnson touchdown, and I kind of doubt that another four downs would have yielded a different result.

Remember, we got dangerously close to bailing out McNabb by forcing a turnover on downs. That TD to Calvin was threaded through tight coverage, but what probably isn't getting enough pub is that it came on a fourth and one play. If we break that up, it's our football.

I don't know how much of it is McNabb's fault or how much of it is on the OL or how much should be put on Galloway (seriously, cut him, and bring up Terence Austin from the PS), and I'd prefer not to lambast McNabb only because "things just weren't working."
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We'll see! But after watching our QB play in 7 out of 8 games, looks like I'm not the only one that's missing. The Shannys confirmed that by putting in Rex with the game still in reach. Just sayin...
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i feel like this thread in time will look much like the LL is bust thread, can't wait for that day!
I'm thinking the same thing.
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Re: Mcnabb appears to be done and he is the reason for this loss

Did anyone else read Kyle Shan's lips like he said, "What is he doing- What is that? when McNabb called or setup the play wrong?

This game is a nightmare to sit on for 2 weeks. Im horrified that coach feels Rex is more reliable to run a 2 minute game winning drive over DM.

Where do we go from here? Rex can't be the future- Im not even thrilled for him to be plan B but what Free Agents will be on the market next year?

We needed Torrain bad- Im eager to hear how he is recovering.
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:23 PM   #12
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Did anyone else read Kyle Shan's lips like he said, "What is he doing- What is that? when McNabb called or setup the play wrong?

This game is a nightmare to sit on for 2 weeks. Im horrified that coach feels Rex is more reliable to run a 2 minute game winning drive over DM.

Where do we go from here? Rex can't be the future- Im not even thrilled for him to be plan B but what Free Agents will be on the market next year?

We needed Torrain bad- Im eager to hear how he is recovering.
Word from the sidelines was the Shanahans were beyond pissed about DMs throw there. I think they let their emotions get the best if them too soon. Though I'm not sure McNabb wouldn't have fumbled either, like Grossman did. Torain should be fine not having him and Portis hurt big time
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The thing about Rex being the better option for the 2 minute drill is BS. It's an excuse, don't look too far into it. DM got benched, simple as that.
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The thing about Rex being the better option for the 2 minute drill is BS. It's an excuse, don't look too far into it. DM got benched, simple as that.
I'm annoyed that McNabb doesn't have a better grasp on the offense at this point.
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Oh yeah, I see it now. He messed up and had the best run of the game while running for his life, after being sacked 4 times already? Yeah, and then when he hit Fred Davis in the hands on BOTH 2pt conversions which he dropped. That would have put twice the pressure on Detroit to score a TD at the end.

This thread is horse sh@t. It was the same thing last year with JC. OMG, he needs to go, he's the only reason we are losing. We UPGRADED the QB, and a picked up a solid O-line starter. Gee, same situation. You can blame the QB if you want, but the Offense in general lost today's game. Maybe it's like the guy said about the order of reads. To me, if the pressure it tearing your QB a new one, you need to adjust and find shorter routes. I don't think I saw any screen passes to combat their eagerness. Bad day for the Offense, and we got out coached.
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