Do you expect Zorn to be fired

Skinny Tee · 10-12-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PainTrainCHOOCHOO

As long as Jim Zorn is the HC, I, and I would hope most fans be behind him. Although I am not a fan of his work and what he has done here, he is still our coach. Although firing a HC mid season isn't a good idea, our situation calls for change. The lack of a sense of urgency is what is killing this team. I personally don't think Jim Zorn stands a chance at finishing the season due to the way Dan Snyder deals with HC's in the past that aren't named Joe Gibbs.

By the way I am new here!

Welcome to the board brah...

Sorry we couldn't meet under better circumstances.

Dirtbag59 · 10-12-2009, 03:25 AM

Is Snyder really the media whore everyone claims him to be? I'd imagine he would be more like Jerry Jones if he was [a media whore].

NCCU1984 · 10-12-2009, 09:07 AM

I think Russ Grimm should be the next head coach, if Zorn is fired. We need a fresh start. Tired of old recycled coaches. We need new front office personnel as well that know what they are doing.

Beemnseven · 10-12-2009, 09:30 AM

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

irish · 10-12-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NCCU1984

I think Russ Grimm should be the next head coach, if Zorn is fired. We need a fresh start. Tired of old recycled coaches. We need new front office personnel as well that know what they are doing.

Its hard to get more fresh than Zorn was when he was hired.

I think Zorn will finish out the season and depending on how the team finishes he might just stay. If they finish 4-12 then he's gone, 8-8 he stays. This team just doesnt have the talent on O so I really dont think any coach could come in here and do much better with what he'd have to work with.

hooskins · 10-12-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PainTrainCHOOCHOO

As long as Jim Zorn is the HC, I, and I would hope most fans be behind him. Although I am not a fan of his work and what he has done here, he is still our coach. Although firing a HC mid season isn't a good idea, our situation calls for change. The lack of a sense of urgency is what is killing this team. I personally don't think Jim Zorn stands a chance at finishing the season due to the way Dan Snyder deals with HC's in the past that aren't named Joe Gibbs.

By the way I am new here!

I agree, Zorn is not the fault but it seems he will unfortunately be the scapegoat. I hope Gibbs told Danny boy to keep patient, not to keep Zorn, but to prevent the image of DC remaining as an unstable coaching destination.

Miller101 · 10-12-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

They should run one on Vinny and Blache.

They don't need to. We all know that poll would say 100%.

bmitch0030 · 10-12-2009, 09:59 AM

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Miller101 · 10-12-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

Come on dude. He's head and shoulders better than Zorn. He's been coaching offensive lines for over ten years. And been an assistant head coach for.....................6 years or so. Unlike Zorn, all of this has been at the pro level. And look what he did to the Steelers offensive line when he was there. He had those guys playing smash mouth ball better than anyone in the league. He goes to Arizona, who had a horrendous line, and turns them around into one of the better lines in the league. Warner got killed in St. Louis, but he has time to throw in Arizona. You know why? Because of Russ baby! Bring in Russ!

MTK · 10-12-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

I don't get it either. Plus he's had a few interviews for HC jobs where he was less than impressive, reportedly.

redsk1 · 10-12-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another.

It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

I agree. Let's hire our coach based on merit not b/c he is an all time Skins great.

SmootSmack · 10-12-2009, 11:05 AM

Russ Grimm makes sense here if he has proven coordinators to support him. Otherwise, it really is a reach to just assume he will be successful as a head coach

hooskins · 10-12-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bmitch0030

Hey, guys. It’s Brian Mitchell. Here we are on another Monday morning, and we’ve seen another loss for our Washington Redskins. Call in today at 712-432-8220, id 5154, at 1 pm Eastern to hear me talk live about what went down yesterday. Remember it’s a free service. You can also email me questions for the show at bmitch@comvl.com. I was able to answer some of your questions on Friday’s show, and I will try to squeeze in a few more today.

lol what

BrunellMVP? · 10-12-2009, 11:17 AM

Zorn is clearly done.
He's damned if he wins (thanks to the consultant) and damned if he loses (there was nothing the consultant could do bc the team was just too far gone).

I think he's in way over his head. Everyone likes him as a person, but he seems lost.
he seems to get flustered/panicky on the sideline- which is symptomatic of someone who isn't ready to be a head coach.

"What happened on that, it was the fourth-down call, and we're waiting for them to spot the ball," Zorn said. "Well, the clock's running, and I'm looking, I'm trying to call a play, but I don't know where they're going to spot the ball. I don't know if it's gonna be 4th-and-5, 4th-and-2, 4th-and-7, what was it gonna be. And so all's I could do was call timeout."

Come on, the spread isn't 2-7 yards...everyone knows how close it was (roughly).

Zorn said after the game that he would seek further clarification, but his special teams coordinator, Danny Smith, didn't disagree with the officials' ruling. In fact, he said the Redskins' similarly practice shoving a blocker into the punt returner, and Fox confirmed that it was not an accidental play on Teal's part.

"Our guys are coached to do that," he said. "Anybody on special teams, our team, their team included. We understand that you can push a guy into the return team. It's a part of the game. You are able to block into them. That was an excellent play."
why the hell are we challenging if we know this?
danny smith seems like he's the smartest guy on the field. Zorn just doesn't get it

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-12-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bmitch0030

Hey, guys. It’s Brian Mitchell. Here we are on another Monday morning, and we’ve seen another loss for our Washington Redskins. Call in today at 712-432-8220, id 5154, at 1 pm Eastern to hear me talk live about what went down yesterday. Remember it’s a free service. You can also email me questions for the show at bmitch@comvl.com. I was able to answer some of your questions on Friday’s show, and I will try to squeeze in a few more today.

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Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Is Snyder really the media whore everyone claims him to be? I'd imagine he would be more like Jerry Jones if he was [a media whore]. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

10-12-2009, 09:07 AM	#123
NCCU1984 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired I think Russ Grimm should be the next head coach, if Zorn is fired. We need a fresh start. Tired of old recycled coaches. We need new front office personnel as well that know what they are doing.

10-12-2009, 09:30 AM	#124
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired I really don't see the fascination with Russ Grimm. Loved him as a player, but we'd be trading an unknown, unproven head coach for another. It's time to let go of the Glory Days -- it's like writing checks on a bank account that has long since closed.

10-12-2009, 09:59 AM	#128
bmitch0030 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Hey, guys. It’s Brian Mitchell. Here we are on another Monday morning, and we’ve seen another loss for our Washington Redskins. Call in today at 712-432-8220, id 5154, at 1 pm Eastern to hear me talk live about what went down yesterday. Remember it’s a free service. You can also email me questions for the show at bmitch@comvl.com. I was able to answer some of your questions on Friday’s show, and I will try to squeeze in a few more today.

10-12-2009, 11:05 AM	#132
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Russ Grimm makes sense here if he has proven coordinators to support him. Otherwise, it really is a reach to just assume he will be successful as a head coach __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-12-2009, 11:17 AM	#134
BrunellMVP? Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 726	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Zorn is clearly done. He's damned if he wins (thanks to the consultant) and damned if he loses (there was nothing the consultant could do bc the team was just too far gone). I think he's in way over his head. Everyone likes him as a person, but he seems lost. he seems to get flustered/panicky on the sideline- which is symptomatic of someone who isn't ready to be a head coach. "What happened on that, it was the fourth-down call, and we're waiting for them to spot the ball," Zorn said. "Well, the clock's running, and I'm looking, I'm trying to call a play, but I don't know where they're going to spot the ball. I don't know if it's gonna be 4th-and-5, 4th-and-2, 4th-and-7, what was it gonna be. And so all's I could do was call timeout." Come on, the spread isn't 2-7 yards...everyone knows how close it was (roughly). Zorn said after the game that he would seek further clarification, but his special teams coordinator, Danny Smith, didn't disagree with the officials' ruling. In fact, he said the Redskins' similarly practice shoving a blocker into the punt returner, and Fox confirmed that it was not an accidental play on Teal's part. "Our guys are coached to do that," he said. "Anybody on special teams, our team, their team included. We understand that you can push a guy into the return team. It's a part of the game. You are able to block into them. That was an excellent play." why the hell are we challenging if we know this? danny smith seems like he's the smartest guy on the field. Zorn just doesn't get it __________________ in writing these daily letters and trying to make them interesting it is always possible that some sentiment may occur which has not received the severe and deliberate scrutiny and reconsideration which should attach to a State Paper. - Churchill

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