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I love it, great deal! |
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27 | 18.37% |
I hate it, don't do it! |
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120 | 81.63% |
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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Maybe -- but 5-7 yards later? That's the point. All the superstars at linebacker won't matter when they have to make the tackle after a big gain and nobody can stop them at the line of scrimmage. |
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
After sleeping on this the deal as proposed right now doesn't seem that bad to me. Would I want them to do it? No. But remember (as some have already pointed out) the price tag of a franchise player is two first rounders. In this scenario the Skins still keep a 1st rounder and get a franchise quality player. Can anyone deny what a great LB corps this would be with Washington, Fletcher, and Briggs... with Marshall and McIntosh coming off the bench?!
I think the Skins would actually be coming out ahead on this deal if they were to do it, that being said I'm not in favor of it. |
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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i still want an extra pick from them though
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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Just because a guy is labeled a franchise player, is he automatically worth 2 first round picks? That's what the CBA says a franchise player is worth in a trade, but that doesn't mean teams are willing to pay that. If Lance Briggs didn't have the franchise tag, would you give this year's first rounder and next year's first rounder for him? I'd hope not. The reason? He's not worth that much, no matter what tag he has on him! We're not coming out ahead of anything. We'd get a really good LB and a pick that can't possibly land us an impact DT. We don't need 1 good LB. We need an impact DT, a young G to groom (don't forget, we're currently planning on forcing a career-long T who is built like a T to switch to G), an athletic S to play alongside Taylor, and some would say a young DE because we're getting old at that spot. This trade does not fit our needs, it doesn't solve our problems, and it perpetuates the players' discontent with our front office's willingness to pay outside talent rather than pay to keep their own. We need to trade the 6th pick for more picks, not Lance Briggs and a pick that can't solve our biggest need: DT.
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
The "10" in Schneed10 stands for the number of weeks The Ego is about to ban you for!
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
LOL. Or will he go with 72 weeks, as in Mattyk72?
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
Glad I didn't post it then.
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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This also kills any deal that would bring in Dre Bly, thus leaving us with an older and more fragile srpings to deal with next year.
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
for the life of me I can't understand all of the negativity towards this proposed deal. We keep a 1st rounder, and gain a STUD of a LB. Rocky may not be developing the way they want, or if they are like me, you just can't pass up on a guy like Briggs. especially when you essentially just change picks and do not lose our 1st rounder. Our D line does need to be addressed, which it will, just later in the draft. The draft is deep enough we can get a quality player. There may be something in the works we do not know about yet. I can't believe the number of people that are all for signing aged up LB or OLINE men, but when a 26 year old beast LB comes available for essentially nothing, people are bashing it. Yes it will cost us, yes Rocky will sit, but that is just a move that can't be ignored. That side of our D was consistantly run all over.
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
Does anybody have any insight as to what Williams will do with Lemar, Rocky, Marcus, London and Lance at his disposal. He must be salivating at the thought of all that hard-hitting, high motor personnel that he'll be able to apply his gifted defensive genius to.
I get the feeling that the Skins are in full "all or nothing" mode. GTripp highlights the salary situation in the next couple of years which the Skins may be looking at as well. Perhaps Gibbs/Williams/Saunders/Danny and Yoda realize that even darker times are ahead so it's better load up to win right now. If Williams has some sort of new swarming LB defense (3-4 hybrid) that he thinks will revolutionize how defenses are played then I can't argue against that. If it's just going to be "same ole, same ole" then I don't see any overwhelmingly positive gain out this as opposed to drafting a stud D-lineman earlier in the draft.
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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Granted the FO knows more about the talent on the roster than anyone but did they see in the last 3 games that Rocky has no ability to man that position? Did they determine that moving Marshall to the outside automatically renders him ineffective? This is a move you make when you are one player away, not coming off of a 5-11 season with GLARING holes in the defensive line and pass rushing ends.. I hate to play the what if game but the '05 offseason set this team back for years by making 2 dumb decisions, letting Smoot and Pierce go because we seemingly felt there was something else better out there. We are doing the same thing with McIntosh. We don't know what he'll be over 16 games but after wasting a pick to go get him they are replacing him with someone elses superstar. If OLB was a need, why not get Cato June who is the same age, slightly less accomplished but would cost a HELL of a lot less in compensation ($+draft position). I'm not saying Briggs is not a good LB but he's a luxury item to this current roster, not a necessity.
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Re: NFL Network: Bears' Briggs, 31st Pick for Skins' 6th Pick?
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The problem is we don't have any other picks until round 5 -- and there will not be any defensive linemen at that late stage to help where we need it most. This year's draft is deep at DL, but not that deep. If we take this deal and get the 31st pick, we won't have any bargaining power to trade down -- so there definitely won't be anything else "in the works" if this happens. Teams ran all over us at the defensive line first -- so it follows that we need to address the front four first. Briggs won't matter at that point. |
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