Fire Ron Rivera Now - Post Game Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think Ron has the respect of a lot of people league wide, and he is a professional coach in terms of how he conducts himself. With that being said I've lost confidence in his ability to lead this team. JDR should've been long gone, Ron has too much loyalty to the people he likes.

https://twitter.com/RefTheDistrict/s...96833052811318

51 games as a HC and we have led at halftime in 15 of those games. It's unfathomably bad. I think the only reason Ron has lasted this long is a weird set of circumstances and his professionalism.

So he is a nice guy with good manners. Awesome. Now let’s get an actual HC.
He is terribly unprepared week after week after month after year.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by mooby

I think Ron has the respect of a lot of people league wide, and he is a professional coach in terms of how he conducts himself. With that being said I've lost confidence in his ability to lead this team. JDR should've been long gone, Ron has too much loyalty to the people he likes.

https://twitter.com/RefTheDistrict/s...96833052811318

51 games as a HC and we have led at halftime in 15 of those games. It's unfathomably bad. I think the only reason Ron has lasted this long is a weird set of circumstances and his professionalism.

I saw that tweet. That is 27% of games. Of the 41 games losing or tied. I’d like to know how many are tied. It is a bit disingenuous to lump tied in with losing. I could go look but not going to waste time doing that. My guess is that we are trailing in about 60% of games which is pretty bad.

I did just revisit this season trailing at half time in 4 of 5 games. One game winning at half was Eagles game

[punch it in]

This season is so all over the map.

2-0…..

Blown out by a good team we suck….

We went toe to toe with a Super Bowl team….

Blown out by a bad team we really suck….

Judging by this pattern we should win our next three.

[skinsfaninok]

I wouldn’t trade 17 , id get him help on the outside and move Dotson to the slot.

Everyone else is on the table for a trade imo. Our DL is supposed to be top 5 and they play like mid level. It’s annoying as fuck


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[SFREDSKIN]

Get rid of Young!! He sucks, he’s a bum!! STFU!!

Per Keim:

Chase Young had a pass rush win rate of 42.9 percent in the second half Thursday according to ESPN Stats & Information. Was constantly near the QB. For context: he's at 18.6 percent for the season (15th among DE's with at least 50 pass rushes).

[jamf]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Get rid of Young!! He sucks, he’s a bum!! STFU!!

Per Keim:

Chase Young had a pass rush win rate of 42.9 percent in the second half Thursday according to ESPN Stats & Information. Was constantly near the QB. For context: he's at 18.6 percent for the season (15th among DE's with at least 50 pass rushes).

Have you seen our QB play? He should be working at Jiffy Lube.
Jiffy Lube is the king of garbage time stats!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by jamf

Have you seen our QB play? He should be working at Jiffy Lube.
Jiffy Lube is the king of garbage time stats!

You should be working at Jiffy Lube, you don't know shit about QB's.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Get rid of Young!! He sucks, he’s a bum!! STFU!!

Per Keim:

Chase Young had a pass rush win rate of 42.9 percent in the second half Thursday according to ESPN Stats & Information. Was constantly near the QB. For context: he's at 18.6 percent for the season (15th among DE's with at least 50 pass rushes).

Who is saying he is a bum? That being said for the number 2 overall pick id like him in the top 5. Lol

[jamf]

Vincent Rivera(nephew) is linebackers coach.
Vieselmeyer (head coach catholic HS) is our Dbs coach.
We got fucking bums. The good ole boy network always brings us down.

[Burgold]

I've never heard any coach say...[they were gassed]what the Hell??? that's for lack of conditioning which falls on the coaching staff, Mr. Harris and Co. I'm sure will fix this after the season...did anyone notice the look on Magic's face during the game...HE WASN'T SMILING...Rivera's ass is toast and good riddance!!

[AnonEmouse]

Saw an article on FB suggesting Harris was embarrassed (or should have been) by that performance. I can't see how that's not the final nail in the coffin for Ron. The question is how much embarrassment can he take before enough is enough. I can't help thinking, going to the end of the season proves nothing, even if they can turn the season around enough to compete. Ron can't be anything but fired now, so why wait?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Saw an article on FB suggesting Harris was embarrassed (or should have been) by that performance. I can't see how that's not the final nail in the coffin for Ron. The question is how much embarrassment can he take before enough is enough. I can't help thinking, going to the end of the season proves nothing, even if they can turn the season around enough to compete. Ron can't be anything but fired now, so why wait?

I think he doesn’t wanna seem like an impatient dude like Snyder. But this isn’t Marty after one year. This is Ron coming up short for four years. It would be a good move imo because you are winning 6-7 games tops as it stands.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I think he doesn’t wanna seem like an impatient dude like Snyder. But this isn’t Marty after one year. This is Ron coming up short for four years. It would be a good move imo because you are winning 6-7 games tops as it stands.

Ron has came up short most of his career except for a few seasons in Carolina and one super bowl appearance:

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/RiveRo0.htm

3 times only in 13 years as HC with double digit wins. One super bowl appearance.

I will never understand how everyone talked him up coming in here like he was some game changer and world beater. Obviously he was the "best of the worst" to be able to work for Dan Snyder and everyone knows that, but why was there so much talk that he was going to "finally" be the right coach to turn things around? Was it just more recycled hope that our next HC would be the one that finally broke the cycle?

The man has done nothing since coming here. He is regularly outsmarted and out schemed. His favorite thing to do this season is stand on the sideline with his arms crossed while we suffer blowout losses.

I am in the opinion of others here that waiting until the end of the season to fire Ron is pointless. It's obvious that he was not going to survive the ownership takeover. Josh Harris and company firing Ron now is not the same as Dan firing Marty mid season. Josh is not Dan, and Ron Rivera sure as hell isn't Marty. If the ownership knows at this point that guys are not going to be here, go on and cut their losses and move us all forward.

[AnonEmouse]

I can see the patience factor, but in his shoes I'd be thinking 1 more loss like that, maybe 2, and I'd have no choice but to pull the trigger. I'd also have an eye on the trade window and FA market. We could potentially upgrade a couple of positions, particularly OL, but the longer RR is in place, the less likely that is (if he was going to make a move he'd have done it by now). If he hopes to have a decent season he has to fire RR & JDR soon. If he has more of an eye on next season, they may last until game 17. But they're lame ducks now, so I can't see the point waiting. And with EB the logical interim, if not full replacement, that's got to be creating an unhealthy dynamic?

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

I can see the patience factor, but in his shoes I'd be thinking 1 more loss like that, maybe 2, and I'd have no choice but to pull the trigger. I'd also have an eye on the trade window and FA market. We could potentially upgrade a couple of positions, particularly OL, but the longer RR is in place, the less likely that is (if he was going to make a move he'd have done it by now). If he hopes to have a decent season he has to fire RR & JDR soon. If he has more of an eye on next season, they may last until game 17. But they're lame ducks now, so I can't see the point waiting. And with EB the logical interim, if not full replacement, that's got to be creating an unhealthy dynamic?

he has to has some feelers out there to see what GM is available . . .