To 2021 and Beyond .... current politics

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I posted numbers and facts. You post emotions and non sequitor.

Lol I see you capping months and manipulating the data....I’ll take the last 4 here...and 35 months here ( cause that makes sense)...and I’ll do the avg here and let’s not focus on doubling national debt...or give credit of job growth past this point...or talk zero% wage growth percentage here with Obama...or impact of tax policy.

Just re read the article...it’s cool. I understand your upset at trump economy where his policies directly impacted folks lives.

What was your impact policy directive from Obama? His brilliant legislation?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

2014 median income was 58k
2016 62.8k (rate increase of 2.4k per year)
2019 68.7k (1.96k increase per year)

Yet another trend that President Obama started that Voldemort inherited. While he couldnt keep up with President Obama's pace, few could, I give him credit for not royaly screwing it up.

President Obama saved America from the recession. Good bless that man.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N

set the graph to ten years and re read the article.

Why are you so mad about record economic fundamentals across the board in the trump Presidential years? Why do you hate to see people do well especially black and Hispanic? I don’t get it...it must be that Baltimore political influence of keep people broke and desperate...never doing a fucking thing for them, after 40 years of Democratic rule.

Oh Trump helped folks get off food stamps at an enormous rate as well...under Obama welfare increase, even as the economy recovered...why is that?

Yet you complain about not getting covid handouts stimulus checks, while that money should go to the most in need. Figures

[SunnySide]

roughly 158 million americans recd some form of stimulus check form the most recent $600. Not all of the 158M americans recd the full $600 bc of sliding scale income caps.

221.2 Billion Dollars = if 158 million americans get the full 1,400 (the actual number wont be this high bc this doesnt take into account the reduced pmts on sliding scale income)

350 Billion = state/local/tribe relief

170 B = schools k-12 (repub only want 20B going to schools)

20 B = national vaccine program

^^ thats 761.2 billion dollars .. where the fuck is the other 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS GOING to from the dems 1.9T proposal? Ive read a "slew of other programs" ...

Dems need to give me a god damn pie chart explaining this to me like im a five year old.


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/02/coro...lief-bill.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ck-calculator/

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

roughly 158 million americans recd some form of stimulus check form the most recent $600. Not all of the 158M americans recd the full $600 bc of sliding scale income caps.

221.2 Billion Dollars = if 158 million americans get the full 1,400 (the actual number wont be this high bc this doesnt take into account the reduced pmts on sliding scale income)

350 Billion = state/local/tribe relief

170 B = schools k-12 (repub only want 20B going to schools)

20 B = national vaccine program

^^ thats 761.2 billion dollars .. where the fuck is the other 1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS GOING to from the dems 1.9T proposal? Ive read a "slew of other programs" ...

Dems need to give me a god damn pie chart explaining this to me like im a five year old.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/02/coro...lief-bill.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ck-calculator/

Please CC me on this pie chart email. I'd also like to know. But this applies to any spending bill no matter who passed it.

[SunnySide]

Covid was a silver platter handed to the man .. all he had to do was show the tiniest bit of leadership .. instead he viewed it as some personal hoax attack on him. in times of national crisis (9/11 .. war) presidents get a huge bump bc the country usually comes together in tough times.

Instead he somehow fucked that up. Fuck him.


Also .. the economy DOES NOT equal the stock market. The economy was not great. GDP was plateud and never made it to 4% annually as promised, the tax proposal and cuts passed under "budget reconciliation" by the Rs for the 1% and corporations DID NOT pay for themselves and cost us money .. all the while we racked up huge national debt when we were not in a recession or depression ...and we started a trade war with China that caused us to over bail out our farmers just so Rs could buy the farmer votes.

if you think the economy was great ... you should probably stop eating those crayons.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Covid was a silver platter handed to the man .. all he had to do was show the tiniest bit of leadership .. instead he viewed it as some personal hoax attack on him. in times of national crisis (9/11 .. war) presidents get a huge bump bc the country usually comes together in tough times.

Instead he somehow fucked that up. Fuck him.


Also .. the economy DOES NOT equal the stock market. The economy was not great. GDP was plateud and never made it to 4% annually as promised, the tax proposal and cuts passed under "budget reconciliation" by the Rs for the 1% and corporations DID NOT pay for themselves and cost us money .. all the while we racked up huge national debt when we were not in a recession or depression ...and we started a trade war with China that caused us to over bail out our farmers just so Rs could buy the farmer votes.

if you think the economy was great ... you should probably stop eating those crayons.

That’s a hellavu take buddy. I guess the vaccination was just what then what to Biden

On what planet would you argue the economy was bad? Lol...forget the stock market, nobody mentioned it. Read the fundamentals, speak for themselves...not only did unemployment see records..but all time record low for minorities. The biggest thing is we saw wage growth, something not seen under Obama.

You have to be a complete hack to think the economy was bad under trump. Best part is the strategy and policy directives answer.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Covid was a silver platter handed to the man .. all he had to do was show the tiniest bit of leadership .. instead he viewed it as some personal hoax attack on him. in times of national crisis (9/11 .. war) presidents get a huge bump bc the country usually comes together in tough times.

Instead he somehow fucked that up. Fuck him.

Also .. the economy DOES NOT equal the stock market. The economy was not great. GDP was plateud and never made it to 4% annually as promised, the tax proposal and cuts passed under "budget reconciliation" by the Rs for the 1% and corporations DID NOT pay for themselves and cost us money .. all the while we racked up huge national debt when we were not in a recession or depression ...and we started a trade war with China that caused us to over bail out our farmers just so Rs could buy the farmer votes.

if you think the economy was great ... you should probably stop eating those crayons.

Originally Posted by Chico23231

That’s a hellavu take buddy. I guess the vaccination was just what then what to Biden

On what planet would you argue the economy was bad? Lol...forget the stock market, nobody mentioned it. Read the fundamentals, speak for themselves...not only did unemployment see records..but all time record low for minorities. The biggest thing is we saw wage growth, something not seen under Obama.

You have to be a complete hack to think the economy was bad under trump. Best part is the strategy and policy directives answer.

This is why there is no point about discussing Trump further here. And I agree with Chico. That being said, it doesn't even matter who is right, we're all in completely opposite ends of reality. There is just no chance for reasonable debate. We all have our sides (SunnySide, myself absolutely included, if not the most guilty).

[Chico23231]

Covid silver platter....just an unbelievable take.

Sunnyside you know I love ya. Still not the boldest take... mooby came over agreeing w/me saying shooting unarmed rioters was in scope. Probably my fav moment.

[CRedskinsRule]

So. Let's all take a deep breath - Chico you know you arent going to win arguments here about the last 4 years, and both sides live in the state of hypocrisy so let's not try to attack Biden for things Trump and Obama and Bush all were guilty of.

The Democrats have the House Senate and Presidency so at this point the Republicans need to set down and make the case when it is election time. Every issue does not have to be the end of the world.

Marijuana- legalize it and commute en masse misdemeanor drug convections since 2000

Federal Minimum wage - add CoLA to it (dont understand why they didnt do something like that to begin with) and set it at 15

Immigration i dont know the solution but put something in place.

Obamacare - fix it. The republicans couldnt repeal it so now come up with a plan that actually works.



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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So. Let's all take a deep breath - Chico you know you arent going to win arguments here about the last 4 years, and both sides live in the state of hypocrisy so let's not try to attack Biden for things Trump and Obama and Bush all were guilty of.

The Democrats have the House Senate and Presidency so at this point the Republicans need to set down and make the case when it is election time. Every issue does not have to be the end of the world.

Marijuana- legalize it and commute en masse misdemeanor drug convections since 2000

Federal Minimum wage - add CoLA to it (dont understand why they didnt do something like that to begin with) and set it at 15

Immigration i dont know the solution but put something in place.

Obamacare - fix it. The republicans couldnt repeal it so now come up with a plan that actually works.



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To be clear I dont think all these policies are good but the Rep.s lost so I recognize the Dems need to and should pass the programs they campaigned on.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Didn't take long to try to make DC a state. Such a fucking joke. Can't wait to hear about how democrats want this because it's fair. And absolutely nothing to do with a guaranteed 2 Senators forever and how many ever house seats they can get. When the democratic party says something is fair, you know if you're not a Democrat you're about to get fucked. May the deep state live on forever!!

Puerto Rico is next, which shockingly is 2 more senate seats forever, and how many ever house seats they can get. But that has nothing to do with it. It's "fair".

Note - I don't actually blame Puerto Rico for wanting to be a state. You keep territories for long enough they should want a piece of the apple pie. Not actually against them becoming a state even if conservatives don't have a chance there. They're an island, not like they can just create their own county in 2021.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Didn't take long to try to make DC a state. Such a fucking joke. Can't wait to hear about how democrats want this because it's fair. And absolutely nothing to do with a guaranteed 2 Senators forever and how many ever house seats they can get. When the democratic party says something is fair, you know if you're not a Democrat you're about to get fucked. May the deep state live on forever!!
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You do know they have been pushing for this for decades ?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You do know they have been pushing for this for decades ?

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Mike Rowe in 2024. I love that guy.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Ibram X. Kendi can go fuck himself. Professor for Boston University, peddling things like if you're black there is nothing wrong about you and if you're white there is nothing right about you. While making great money. Thanks Captain Obvious. 99% of all people don't equate their skin color to being righteous. Most universities are indoctrination camps at this point.

On top of that, he actually specified males, so I guess women are safe, but sex isn't really a thing anymore, so he stole everyone's rights to describe themselves. What a racist, sexist pig. But he's a liberal, and not white, the double victory to say or do whatever you want.