12-14-2009, 11:24 AM | #121 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
And Tom Bradys and Marques Coltons can be found in the 6th and 7th rounds, so why even bother drafting QBs and WRs before then? We found Chris Horton in the 7th - why would anyone give up more than that for Troy Polamalu? Atleast one TE is drafted in the first round almost every year. Just because you can find a pro-bowl player in the later rounds, doesn't mean its easy or that its even likely to happen. If a team is in dire need of ANY starting position on offense or defense, and there's a young pro-bowler available, most teams would consider giving up a 1st rounder as opposed to gambling on a draft pick.
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12-14-2009, 11:28 AM | #122 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
I would trade Landry before I trade Cooley. There's no need to trade Cooley, I would cut ARE and possibly trade Santana Moss at the WR positions and have Thomas, Kelly and Mitchell be the starters while we find another young guy which we might already have on the roster or PS.
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12-14-2009, 11:56 AM | #124 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
Yes, we should do it, that's an awesome deal. I'd miss him, but we gotta get this team straight.
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12-14-2009, 12:00 PM | #126 | |
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12-14-2009, 12:06 PM | #127 |
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3rd or 4th rounder, there are teams out there that need a WR, Baltimore comes to mind.
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12-14-2009, 12:10 PM | #128 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
.....NO. Were just going to trade away one of our best players, simply trade away our Pro Bowler? I got a better idea. The stock for Davis is going up, since he's not a Pro Bowler how about we trade him?
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12-14-2009, 12:44 PM | #129 | |
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12-14-2009, 01:04 PM | #130 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
I would trade cooley for a #1 in a second and I would consider trading him for a #2. 1st & 3rd is a pipedream.
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12-14-2009, 01:17 PM | #131 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
Cooley is one of my favorite Redskins, but I would trade him for a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick without any hesitation for a few reasons.
First, there are very few, if any, tight ends in the league who are worth a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick. Tony Gonzalez, perhaps the best tight end in the history of the game, was traded for a 2nd round pick. Granted, Gonzalez is much older than Cooley, but he's also a much better player. Jeremy Shockey, who is younger but not as good as Gonzalez, was traded for a 2nd round pick as well. I just don't think that a guy with so-so blocking skills and who puts up 800 yards per season is worth a 1st round pick and a 3rd round pick. Second, Fred Davis is developing into a very nice player. I don't think he's as good as Cooley right now, but he's got more athleticism and upside. If Cooley returns to full-time duty next season, I can't see Davis reeling in more than 25 passes for 250 yards. That's a pretty insignificant return on Davis' talent. I think Davis could step into Cooley's shoes and match his production. Third, Chris Cooley will be 28 next season. Odds are that he will be at the apex of his career. In other words, if Cooley were a stock, he'd be set to reach his "high" next season. What's that old saying about when to buy and sell stocks? Fourth, we have so many needs at other positions right now. We need extra picks to acquire an offensive tackle, an offensive guard, a center, a quarterbacks, a running back, etc. |
12-14-2009, 01:32 PM | #132 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
that would be stupid, why don't we trade all of our young players that are making an impact and keep all the older players, don't get me wrong I like Cooley, but at this point we really look better with the team we are fielding right now, they all seem to be on the same page. Why fuck with that because there are a bunch of man crushes on Cooley? Give me Davis all day he's a huge specimen that's only going to get better, we've seen what Chris can do and he's good at it but Davis is still learning and he's our best goal line threat..IMO
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12-14-2009, 01:38 PM | #133 | |
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I am reminded of a statement Shawn Springs made last year during his "exit" interview on ESPN980. I'm paraphasing but he said something very close to this:
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12-14-2009, 01:43 PM | #134 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
I'd trade Cooley for a 2nd rounder in a heartbeat, that would be a valuable pick to use on a O lineman. Why would we keep two TE with so many needs cause we can't get a #1 for him, cap or not you keep your best scoring threat Davis, and ship Cooley's ass on the 1st thing smoking.
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12-14-2009, 02:03 PM | #135 |
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Re: Chris Cooley for a 1st and a 3rd -- would you do it?
Keep both Cooley and Davis to have the best 2 tightend set in football. I just hope after this season when cooley is healthy they don't, "betts" Fred and put him back on the shelf that would be dumb.
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