The Sam Howell Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Howell is still good friends with Drake Maye, so if he is the pick then makes great sense to keep Sam around to ease his transition to the NFL

Maybe but it is also awkward like hey bud welcome to the team…here is my job. Also Sam isn’t exactly a seasoned vet who understands what it takes to have a career in the NFL. All I know is they need to take one of the big 3 quarterbacks with the second pick.

[That Guy]

a vet qb would be about a 5m/year difference. Even if he's the #3, he's essentially free. People are being weird about this for no reason.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by That Guy

a vet qb would be about a 5m/year difference. Even if he's the #3, he's essentially free. People are being weird about this for no reason.

Agree. Howell has shown enough that the new regime would at least view him as a developmental piece. His floor is a solid no. 2…that has significant value where most starting QB miss time during the season in today’s NFL.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by That Guy

a vet qb would be about a 5m/year difference. Even if he's the #3, he's essentially free. People are being weird about this for no reason.

Agreed. Sam's going nowhere...

[AnonEmouse]

Can he go on the PS or not? Would he have to be waived first? Matter of opinion I know, but he's solid #2 material and if he loses out to a vet that's injury prone, keeping him in house makes sense.

[mooby]

I'd love to keep Brissett and Sam and a new top draft pick but that's unrealistic. New staff will have to decide to keep Sam or JB - can't have all that cap money invested in 2 backups. We def. need a vet presence for a new rookie qb if we're going that route, and I don't think Sam is that guy yet.

[HTTR]

There may be a team that sees SH as redeemable, a guy with great tools who spent his first real NFL season working in a burning dumpster. If being a starter is the path SH wants to be on, let him go. I’d be more comfortable with a Brissett-Maye combo than SH-Maye (or fill in your vet-#2 pick combo)


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[AnonEmouse]

JB will be looking for a starting gig. Doubt he takes a new contract to stay as #2. That likely means #2 pick (Maye?), SH and a yet to be signed veteran in teh QB room for training camp. They're unlikely to trade SH without at least equivalent options in place, which is why I suggested he could go on the PS.

[punch it in]

Hard pass on Penix. I don’t like lefties.

[rocnrik]

Penix just played his way out of the first round .. pass

[punch it in]

I didn’t like him in the first before the game. Now I would not like him at all.

[MTK]

One game isn’t going to decide his fate.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Michigan's defense has been great all season. That's why they went 15-0. Definitely can't knock Penix for not looking great against the best team in the country.

I didn't watch the game, as I no longer care about college football unless its FSU, but it sounds like he was pretty beat up. I just can't get around his likeliness to get hurt, to go with him in the Top 5. But if he stays healthy, he could be the best of the bunch. It's a normal failure risk rate + a higher injury possibility rate, that makes it a no for me in the Top 5.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Michigan's defense has been great all season. That's why they went 15-0. Definitely can't knock Penix for not looking great against the best team in the country.

Yes you can. You want to see how these guys perform when they’re under pressure, when the stakes are high. Even when Penix had a clean pocket he was missing guys by a mile. Not saying he can’t develop into a good QB or have a bad game, just that plenty of guys flash in college but have trouble when the competition is upped a level. Michigan was a good test for that and he got a C.


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[Chief X_Phackter]

He had a lot more good games than bad. Michigan wasn't the only good team he played. The injury history is concerning, but some team will draft him in the 1st...probably top 20.