Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Young, Sweat, Ioannidis, Payne, Allen, Settle, Foster, Anderson, Holcomb, Collins, Dunbar (if he can stay healthy)

The potential to be a special defense is there

still need 1 more Safety to replace Montae but that can be done. Another CB wouldn't hurt either

[AnonEmouse]

I draft Young for 3 reasons.

We'd have an immediate impact player a la Watt/Bosa that would make the rest of the line better immediately.
In a 4-3 we need a steady tackle and tackle/end combination inside as well as the rushers outside. We'd have 6 young DL that could play in almost any effective combination, including a 5 man line to remove the need for a blitzing LB and 6 man short yardage line. That means we can concentrate on getting LBs that are not pass rushers but pure run stuffers and coverage guys. And that group could play together consistently for 2-3 years before we have to worry about the group breaking up with FA.
We can't let Young go to the Giants and face him every year.

[Schneed10]

I would say a lot more is needed at the linebacker level. Cole Holcomb is fine as a depth guy but I'd like a lot more athleticism at that position. Covering the Zach Ertz's and Evan Engram's of the world takes some serious speed. Reuben Foster helps a lot there but I need a lot more at LB. If Cole Holcomb is one of your opening day starters I think you've given the opposing offense an area to attack with a game plan built around an athletic tight end.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I would say a lot more is needed at the linebacker level. Cole Holcomb is fine as a depth guy but I'd like a lot more athleticism at that position. Covering the Zach Ertz's and Evan Engram's of the world takes some serious speed. Reuben Foster helps a lot there but I need a lot more at LB. If Cole Holcomb is one of your opening day starters I think you've given the opposing offense an area to attack with a game plan built around an athletic tight end.

Im really interested in what Ron thinks about the linebacker talent. Will be interesting to see how he approaches it in the offseason.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I would say a lot more is needed at the linebacker level. Cole Holcomb is fine as a depth guy but I'd like a lot more athleticism at that position. Covering the Zach Ertz's and Evan Engram's of the world takes some serious speed. Reuben Foster helps a lot there but I need a lot more at LB. If Cole Holcomb is one of your opening day starters I think you've given the opposing offense an area to attack with a game plan built around an athletic tight end.

Speed is a concern at LB for sure, If u look at both teams last night they had good speed at LB. I agree with u

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I would say a lot more is needed at the linebacker level. Cole Holcomb is fine as a depth guy but I'd like a lot more athleticism at that position. Covering the Zach Ertz's and Evan Engram's of the world takes some serious speed. Reuben Foster helps a lot there but I need a lot more at LB. If Cole Holcomb is one of your opening day starters I think you've given the opposing offense an area to attack with a game plan built around an athletic tight end.

If the rams don’t tag him, I would go after Cory Littleton ILB.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I would say a lot more is needed at the linebacker level. Cole Holcomb is fine as a depth guy but I'd like a lot more athleticism at that position. Covering the Zach Ertz's and Evan Engram's of the world takes some serious speed. Reuben Foster helps a lot there but I need a lot more at LB. If Cole Holcomb is one of your opening day starters I think you've given the opposing offense an area to attack with a game plan built around an athletic tight end.

I agree with you 100%, We don't know what we are getting with Foster if he even plays, a mid round guy (3rd) round guy I like is Patrick Queen out of LSU if he lasts that long, he is in that Deion Jones mold, fast, athletic, can run with TEs. If he is there I would definitely take a long look at him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I agree with you 100%, We don't know what we are getting with Foster if he even plays, a mid round guy (3rd) round guy I like is Patrick Queen out of LSU if he lasts that long, he is in that Deion Jones mold, fast, athletic, can run with TEs. If he is there I would definitely take a long look at him.

His tape is making him move up the ranks IMO, which sucks.

There are a few Free agent options tho..

1. Blake Martinez (very good in coverage)
2. Cory Littleton (same as Blake)
3. Hasson Reddick (good all around athlete)

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

His tape is making him move up the ranks IMO, which sucks.

There are a few Free agent options tho..

1. Blake Martinez (very good in coverage)
2. Cory Littleton (same as Blake)
3. Hasson Reddick (good all around athlete)

I LOVE the way Blake Martinez plays football. He has great instincts, he's around the ball a lot, he is a solid tackler and he can really cover. Plus, he's strong and tough. If I had a vote on Redskins FA's I'd say go for Blake!

[KI Skins Fan]

Holcomb is not slow. Also, he was a rookie last season; he'll get better.

Foster is a big concern. He isn't close to being able to play yet and there's no way to know if he'll be able to play at the same level when he returns. If he recovers fully, he should make a big difference at LB.

I think Anderson could surprise as a LB. He is a good football player.

I think we have a chance to be good at LB without adding anyone but I'd love to add more talent at LB in the draft, at least.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Holcomb is not slow. Also, he was a rookie last season; he'll get better.

Foster is a big concern. He isn't close to being able to play yet and there's no way to know if he'll be able to play at the same level when he returns. If he recovers fully, he should make a big difference at LB.

I think Anderson could surprise as a LB. He is a good football player.

I think we have a chance to be good at LB without adding anyone but I'd love to add more talent at LB in the draft, at least.

Will Compton was 6'1, 238 pounds, and ran a 4.52 at the combine. Holcomb is 6'1, 231 pounds, and ran a 4.51 at the combine.

I agree he'll get better and he'll of course get stronger. But Compton got exposed in coverage and so will Holcomb in 1-1 matchups against good TEs. It might not be a speed issue, either, it could be a matter of quicks and lack of length.

He's got good instincts and can knife in occasionally to the ballcarrier. But he can't shed blocks and will struggle against bigger TEs who have speed. Don't get me wrong, he can contribute, but I think guys like them serve well in depth roles. I want my LBs longer and more athletic to keep up with today's TEs.

[Chico23231]

I like our prospects...Cole, SDH and Ryan Anderson...Foster leg is a problem tho.

Ryan Anderson as a SAM looks like a natural fit.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I like our prospects...Cole, SDH and Ryan Anderson...Foster leg is a problem tho.

Ryan Anderson as a SAM looks like a natural fit.

Yes, he does. Only our former dumb shit coaches could see him as a 3-4 OLB. To his credit, Anderson soldiered on out of position and made a contribution. Now, like you, I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do as a SAM LB.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Why not try to have our cake and eat it to?

Teams are going to go CRAZY for Tua as the draft approaches and the only away a team can guarantee getting him is to trade up to 2. So, if someone offers us a HAUL, then lets take it. But it doesn't mean we can't also get Young. We could trade back up with Detroit to draft Chase.

Since we'd be trading up to 3 and not selecting a QB, the market would dictate that we not have to give up nearly as much as we acquired in moving out of 2. Sure, it would be risky as someone could always outbid us for Detroit's spot or they could just decide to take Tua, so there is risk there. But its also possible we could end up netting Chase Young (at 3) AND another first (or multiple later picks).

[skinsfanmdc]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Why not try to have our cake and eat it to?

Teams are going to go CRAZY for Tua as the draft approaches and the only away a team can guarantee getting him is to trade up to 2. So, if someone offers us a HAUL, then lets take it. But it doesn't mean we can't also get Young. We could trade back up with Detroit to draft Chase.

Since we'd be trading up to 3 and not selecting a QB, the market would dictate that we not have to give up nearly as much as we acquired in moving out of 2. Sure, it would be risky as someone could always outbid us for Detroit's spot or they could just decide to take Tua, so there is risk there. But its also possible we could end up netting Chase Young (at 3) AND another first (or multiple later picks).

They are taking chase young lol.