06-10-2015, 11:47 AM | #106 |
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Re: Not drafting a QB a mistake?
This poor, unfortunate thread has suffered long enough. Kept alive by the determined efforts of its desperate Daddy, it has survived much longer than its deserved one word answer - "No." - would have portended. Yet its life has been torturous - for us. Now it's time to take it off life support and let it pass away peacefully.
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06-10-2015, 12:18 PM | #107 |
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The thing about discussions which require, at their core, speculation about conclusions with no definitive answers is that they can continue ad nausem with someone always able to say "but, what about [insert new speculative fact]."
However, the consistent criticism of posters who offer relevant speculation different from the original speculation, simply b/c it is not the original speculation, is somewhat tedious. The entire discussion is based on woulda, coulda, shoulda. Fun for a while on any topic but, clearly this one, has run its course. Should we have chosen a QB in the draft? 30gut: Yes. Everyone else (essentially): We trust in Scotty McC so probably not but maybe, only time will tell. Let me help on the TE question to save us all some trouble. Should we have chosen a TE in the draft? 30gut: Yes. Everyone else: We trust in Scotty McC so probably not but maybe, only time will tell. As a further time saver, just go back and insert "TE" for "QB" in the various posts b/c it is essentially the same premise, question and implied conclusion.
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We should have drafted Billy White Shoes Johnson.
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For me its not about degrees of upside in comparison to what we have because the draft is crap shoot you just never know. The QBs in this draft could all suck or not. For me its about process and QB development in a WCO system. I like the way Ted Thompson, Reid and Holmgren and now McCarthy approached the QB position via the draft they take (waste) at least 1 every draft. Quote:
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Given that RG3 and Cousins still fit the mold of young'ns with something to prove, I'd rather have McCoy than a rookie at the 3rd spot on the depth chart.
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And they wouldn't necessarily have to cut Colt; Jay/FO/Dan just need to choose between Griff or Kirk and they can't seem to be of the same accord when it comes to that decision. |
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06-10-2015, 05:05 PM | #113 | |
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They need to base their board on their scouting acumen and not the perception of what 31 other teams will do. If you have a guy rated as a 5th rounder and then panic and grab him in the 3rd because you convinced yourself that he would be taken by another team then, then all you did was panic and not stay true to your board. You passed over a lot of players that you had rated higher due to panic. If you have a guy rated as a 3rd rounder but pass on him in rounds 3 and 4 because you believe he will be there in the 5th, then you did not stay true to your board. If you base QB's above all else, then that will come out when you are rating players and deciding on your draft order. If you are desperate for a safety, then that will come out when you rate the player. Once you have that complete though, stay the course. |
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They also adjust their board as the draft unfolds. If their is a run a certain position then naturally the other prospects at that position get moved up...etc... No GM wants to draft a player, even if they like that player, higher then they need to. GMs talk all the time about wanting a player and thinking/hoping a player will fall to them and sweating it out..sometimes they're right but sometimes their wrong. |
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again, which QB should we have taken? i still haven't seen a name that'd be better than the guys on our roster, even given 1-2 years.
so if there weren't better choices available, why would we pick one? same with TE, who would we have taken over the guys we have? at TE there might have at least been an upgrade over depth, but then we'd lose depth at a spot we actually took. feel free to name names though, otherwise we have to assume you want a generic replacement level player, but that's not an upgrade and we've already got a bunch of those. |
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Also, why bring up the quote of 'take a player one round early, not 1 pick late' and then turn around and talk about waiting to draft a player based on your feel of what 31 other teams will do? 2 ends of the spectrum that can never go hand in hand with each other. |
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To me bringing back McCoy was useless cause he's never going to be a full time starter. OK back up and all, but just can't drive the ball downfield. He was on the street and not one team wanted him. Had they kept that pick, and drafted Grayson, maybe he competes next year. That would have also given KC all or most of the 2nd team reps. Regardless, I do believe that we'll have a new starting QB for the Redskins next year. This year was obviously about building out the rest of the roster. |
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An example of adjusting a draft board at a position happened with WRs the past 2 seasons. A team might have a say a 2nd round grade on Nelson Agoholor or Kelvin Benjamin but based on how the draft played out if you didn't take them round 1 you weren't getting them. Quote:
The draft is fluid not static. There are many different scenarios and situations at play that are interrelated and require different means of management. So sure sometimes Bill's idiom of 'better 1 round early then 1 pick' is the right approach for certain situations or like a Russell Wilson and many other Seattle "reaches" or sometimes waiting on a hidden gem that your scouts and coaching staff have identified undervalued is the right play as in a Alfred Morris or a Keenan Robinson. |
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Your question has already been covered. And I don't profess know which QBs will or won't be better then our guys......and neither do you.
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I've already stated i don't think anyone pans out to do great things pages ago, so i'm accountable. you decided not to make any predictions cause then we could look back and say that you were wrong, and, well we can't have that now can we? if you're not going to put up, then it's probably time to stop this pointless exercise. either there's someone that would be better than who we've got or there isn't. the vacuous "we should pick somebody, but i have no idea who" leads to thinking up imaginary players that might be better than the ones that were actually available in this draft. if you're going to say you have no idea and i don't either, great, then we'll defer to the experts, which decided it wasn't a good idea. /thread. |
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