Skins vs. Eagles Post-Game

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Lots of reasons we lost. Special teams was a main culprit obviously.

But my issue yesterday was this. KC got us in position to win the game but when it counted he missed passes. The INT was ehhh...they happen. But he missed a couple throws that we really needed him to hit. I am afraid that is what he is as a QB.

Did Mark Rypien make all the clutch throws after his fifth start?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

It will all play out. Giants next. It's funny how Cam Newton through for over 400 his first game but they lost so everyone still doubts. Cousins goes over 400 and loses but we have people celebrating like we winning.

Please quote me one person in this thread who is "celebrating like we winning."

Please quote me one person in this thread who has "no doubts" about Cousins based on yesterday's performance.

Also, interesting choice of comparators, just sayin'.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

The criticism of Cousins is about what I expected from the diehard RGIII fans, they want Cousins to fail.
Question: were you as tough on RGIII after he took a dump on the field in the first half of the Texans game. RGIII's offense put up six points in the entire game against a team that had lost 14 games in a row. Did he have us in position to win that one going down the stretch?

I just don't get the black-or-white world you live in.

RGIII is one of our QB's. I support and cheer for him and, when deserved, criticize him. Because he is one of our QB's, I never root for him to fail.

Cousins is one of our QB's. I support and cheer for him and, when deserved, criticize him. Because he is one of our QB's, I never root for him to fail.

I know that I am not the only one who feels this way.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Breeland can take DHall spot.

I love what I've seen from Breeland so far. Now if we could get some young, promising safeties in there.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Lots of reasons we lost. Special teams was a main culprit obviously.

But my issue yesterday was this. KC got us in position to win the game but when it counted he missed passes. The INT was ehhh...they happen. But he missed a couple throws that we really needed him to hit. I am afraid that is what he is as a QB.

So after 5 starts and really no work with first team you're saying this is what he is as a QB? You don't think the timing with Garcon, DJax and co will improve? Or maybe you prefer that high school offense we saw week one. Actually I really hope you're right cause if KC is what we saw yesterday then he's a Pro Bowl QB. For this week, what should have been 37 points on the road is something any NFL team would take. At least for this week, I can not blame the offense or Cousins for the loss.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I just don't get the black-or-white world you live in.

RGIII is one of our QB's. I support and cheer for him and, when deserved, criticize him. Because he is one of our QB's, I never root for him to fail.

Cousins is one of our QB's. I support and cheer for him and, when deserved, criticize him. Because he is one of our QB's, I never root for him to fail.

I know that I am not the only one who feels this way.

Nope. I'm with you on this. I love both of these guys and I'd hate to see either one of them go, and hoping if such happens, it's because one or the other (or someone else) has firmly proven himself to be the franchise quarterback for the Washington Redskins.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Lotus

IMO he missed passes early, too, but receivers bailed him out with fine catches. Near the end he missed so badly that he could not be bailed out.

He missed on a couple passes late. Early in the game and even into the second half he was putting balls in the tightest damn windows possible. A couple of them may have appeared to be off, but they were actually placed where only the wr could make a play. Dude was nothing short of superb(especially for fifth start of his career).

[over the mountain]

has anyone heard anything from cousins, garcon or gruden about what happened on the 4th down play?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He missed on a couple passes late. Early in the game and even into the second half he was putting balls in the tightest damn windows possible. A couple of them may have appeared to be off, but they were actually placed where only the wr could make a play. Dude was nothing short of superb(especially for fifth start of his career).

I was talking about several passes which were not well-placed: pointlessly behind the receiver, etc.

[tshile]

meriweather, the guy we were supposed to be happy to have back, blew a kick coverage for a TD and at least twice got beat by a WR one on one that led to a big play/TD.

get rid of this guy. he has zero redeeming qualities.

[Lotus]

From what I could tell, Trenton Robinson enabled the kickoff return TD by getting out of his lane and creating a big hole. Then Meriweather missed the tackle. At least that's what I saw.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I was talking about several passes which were not well-placed: pointlessly behind the receiver, etc.

You say several. I say a few. Every qb in the league misses every single game. The kid was aces yesterday. QB is thee last thing im worried about rite now as a Skins fan.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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So after 5 starts and really no work with first team you're saying this is what he is as a QB? You don't think the timing with Garcon, DJax and co will improve? Or maybe you prefer that high school offense we saw week one. Actually I really hope you're right cause if KC is what we saw yesterday then he's a Pro Bowl QB. For this week, what should have been 37 points on the road is something any NFL team would take. At least for this week, I can not blame the offense or Cousins for the loss.

As spectacular as RG3 was in 2012, he was 3-6 in his first 9 starts. It's illogical to think KC has peeked and will never get better.

Hopefully the winning starts to go along with the nice stat lines.

[JoeRedskin]

Cousins had a better arm than I expected. He put some zip on some of those balls.

At the same time, game on the line, 1st down at the opponent's 40, the QB has to manufacture some yards.

The constant knock on Romo is that he gets greats stats, does lots of amazing stuff to get wins, but, ultimately (and consistently), can't make "the play" when it critical that he do so.

There is lots (LOTS) of blame to go around for Sundays loss. KC gets his fair share of it. My only question is: Can he improve and make "the play"? OR, as FRPLG fears, is this who he is and there ain't no more.

I reserve judgment. I think KC generally acquitted himself well in his 5th start against a good division rival on their field in a game that was a real slugfest. At the same time, to really stake a claim for the job, KC needs to take the team on his shoulders and win at crunch time.

In 2012, RGIII did that and, honestly, given a little time, I believe he will do it again. For now, however, we roll with KC and I hope he tears up the opposition (just like I hoped for RGIII).

It will be a very fortunate dilemma if at the end of this season we have 2 guys who can start and win in this league at QB.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I was talking about several passes which were not well-placed: pointlessly behind the receiver, etc.

There isn't a QB in the history of the league that hasn't thrown a few bad balls every game. Foles had 2 that should have been intercepted and overthrew several more. I do think there might be an endurance issue with Kirk that will get solved with more starts. Just not used to playing full games week in and week out.