Grade the Redskins Moves So Far

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Smoot, some of the ES insiders have been hinting that Jim Haslet is on borrowed time, and that if Raheem Morris can pick up the 3-4 defense, then he'll be the new DC the following year. Heard any rumblings?

Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year

It's almost humorous that after two terrible seasons there would be any anticipation/expectation about how Mike and Kyle will run the team beyond 2012. Win some games and make the team competitive then we'll "talk" lol...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year

I wonder who those people are? Do you think they'll survive if we win 4-6 games?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I wonder who those people are? Do you think they'll survive if we win 4-6 games?

Who will survive? All of them?

We're going to win more than 6 games so it's not a concern to me

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I wonder who those people are? Do you think they'll survive if we win 4-6 games?

There would have to be injuries of catastrophic proportions for us to win 4-6 games this season. Even IF that's the case, the hopes of a short leash on Shanny are wasted. He's locked in for 5 yrs, especially with a rookie QB. There may be some movement on assistants (Haslett's deal is up after this year) but the big 3 (MS, BA, KS) will be here for the duration.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Following year I don't know about that. I don't think Haslett has ever really comfortably established himself here and I don't believe he and Shanahan (Mike) always see eye to eye.

Anyhow, there are plenty of people who believe that ultimately MS will move full-time up stairs and the new leaders of the team on the field will be Kyle and Raheem-with one as head coach and the other as assistant/associate head coach/coordinator.

But I don't expect that to be next year

Now, this was a serious question and serious insight on the long term future of the Skins....Morris as DC sounds promising...even HC potential sounds interesting...Shanny JR was 2 years ago a sure thing in the minds of many as a future HC...now...not so much...we shall see.

It is good to have 2 potential HC on staff....ever remember the old days when most of us were freaking out because Gregg Williams was spurned as successor of Gibbs II....boy was I wrong!

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Now, this was a serious question and serious insight on the long term future of the Skins....Morris as DC sounds promising...even HC potential sounds interesting...Shanny JR was 2 years ago a sure thing in the minds of many as a future HC...now...not so much...we shall see.

It is good to have 2 potential HC on staff....ever remember the old days when most of us were freaking out because Gregg Williams was spurned as successor of Gibbs II....boy was I wrong!

It's good to have experience on the coaching staffs. A lot of NFL have coordinators and even position coaches who were once head coaches or those who will likely be head coaches in the future. If Raheem Morris ends up being the head coach of the Redskins someday, that would be a good thing. I'm not sure Kyle Shanahan is ready for such a demanding position.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Now, this was a serious question and serious insight on the long term future of the Skins....Morris as DC sounds promising...even HC potential sounds interesting...Shanny JR was 2 years ago a sure thing in the minds of many as a future HC...now...not so much...we shall see.

It is good to have 2 potential HC on staff....ever remember the old days when most of us were freaking out because Gregg Williams was spurned as successor of Gibbs II....boy was I wrong!

I think there is a lot we don't know and a little that we do. All we know is what we see. How much wiggle room was KS given by his father? I look at the first year and ignore it because I think it was more the coaching staff getting to know what they had. Then they pretty much got rid of half the players. On top of that they really didn't have a running game that first year so I think KS was given more play calls. The second year I think MS took more control and added more of the running game.

Basically I think this year will be more telling. With a better running game, better QB play, an upgrade at WR and hopefully with a OL that knows their assignments better we will see better plays and better play calls.

[REDSKINS4ever]

I like the way Montgomery and Lichtensteiger has played. They are indeed solid contributors to the Redskins offensive line. I haven't witnessed Montgomery allowing the type of penetration that Casey Rabach allowed. Will Montgomery really isn't a bad center/guard. He's just underrated. As for Lichtensteiger, I'm satisfied with the way he's play for the Redskins on the offensive line the past couple of seasons. I expect him to be even better when he comes back from his ACL injury.

[hail_2_da_skins]

I voted B, better than expected. I like the move up to get RGIII or Luck. The organization realized that the quarterback play was mediocre and needed to make a drastic move. They gave up too much because there are too many other teams with similar situations. I like the aggressive move. The grade could have been an A if Fletcher was under contract. I think the salary cap penalty has made the Fletcher deal difficult. I'm skeptical about the wide receiver upgrades. I think there will be a lot of competition in training camp, but I don't see any clear #1 and #2 receivers. The secondary upgrades added depth, nothing more.

[SmootSmack]

When I wrote pretty ordinary, I didn't mean in terms of the magnitude of the move in terms of its "front page headline" ability, but in terms of pretty ordinary as in we didn't get better or even get worse. We kind of just stayed the same

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When I wrote pretty ordinary, I didn't mean in terms of the magnitude of the move in terms of its "front page headline" ability, but in terms of pretty ordinary as in we didn't get better or even get worse. We kind of just stayed the same

Wow. RG3 gives us a chance at greatness. Our franchise put all there eggs in the RG3 basket. He will either make us a contender or set us back five + years. I would call this the biggest move we have made in Redskins history.

[NC_Skins]

Seems one of the ES insiders breaking some good news on Twitter.

Busy day tweeps but caught a break real quick. Jackson you know about already. London will be done before Monday. Expect some restructuring of contracts before Monday as well.

Good to have LF back in the fold.


Actually, JLC was on top of this as well.

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[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I would call this the biggest move we have made in Redskins history.

I would say this RGIII trade comment is an overstatement.
It is arguable that this isn't even the biggest QB trade in Redskins history...ever hear of an inter-divisional trade involving a guy named Sonny?

And in terms of just QB's...and "biggest moves" and not"trades...ever hear of Sammy Baugh?...Championships, Hall of Fame? Move from Boston to DC?

Don't get me wrong..it is a major dice roll...but unless RGIII ends up a perennial Pro-bowler, or even an occasional one, it is another Redskins mistake.
Sure, if he wins multiple Superbowls, I will agree...but until then....he is just another rookie with more Skins Fan's high hopes.

I like him too...but he is just a single player that hasn't done anything yet...which is why we now have a reasonable rookie cap.
I hope as strongly as you do...I just recommend a more tempered level of expectation.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I would say this RGIII trade comment is an overstatement.
It is arguable that this isn't even the biggest QB trade in Redskins history...ever hear of an inter-divisional trade involving a guy named Sonny?

And in terms of just QB's...and "biggest moves" and not"trades...ever hear of Sammy Baugh?...Championships, Hall of Fame? Move from Boston to DC?

Don't get me wrong..it is a major dice roll...but unless RGIII ends up a perennial Pro-bowler, or even an occasional one, it is another Redskins mistake.
Sure, if he wins multiple Superbowls, I will agree...but until then....he is just another rookie with more Skins Fan's high hopes.

I like him too...but he is just a single player that hasn't done anything yet...which is why we now have a reasonable rookie cap.
I hope as strongly as you do...I just recommend a more tempered level of expectation.

Yes I have heard of them, but show were it cost as much to make the trade. SHOW ME!! Were are talking about the MOVES, not the end result.