The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

[redskin29633]

This is not my worst nightmare, but it's on the list. Since I did not see McNabb's name in the thread, I can safely say that I prefer every QB mentioned in this thread ahead of Sanchez. New York papers have been running stories about how Sanchez has regressed this season and how Jets need to start over at QB position. Please do not encourage talk of Redskins becoming the Jets "dumping ground" for an over-hyped and over-valued QB.

[12thMan]

Both Bradford and McCoy have major issues holding onto the ball while in the pocket, but if I had to choose one over the other and put him behind the Redskins offensive line, it would be Sam Bradford.

Colt McCoy is 6'1" and Sam Bradford is 6'4", that would be a huge difference playing in the NFC East where you'd face some of the more prolific pass rushers twice a year. Rex at 6'1" has also had his share of batted down passes playing in the NFC East And if I'm not mistaken, McNabb at 6'2" had some issues with getting balls batted down during his time here.

Looking at their respective stat lines over the first two years, the amount of time they've turned the ball over, their QB rating are nearly the same, both play for horrible teams, it's just really difficult to say who's definitively a "project" and who isn't. So I'd go with the guy more physically promising, a year younger, and has shown some flashes of being a quality NFL quarterback.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Both Bradford and McCoy have major issues holding onto the ball while in the pocket, but if I had to choose one over the other and put him behind the Redskins offensive line, it would be Sam Bradford.

Colt McCoy is 6'1" and Sam Bradford is 6'4", that would be a huge difference playing in the NFC East where you'd face some of the more prolific pass rushers twice a year. Rex at 6'1" has also had his share of batted down passes playing in the NFC East And if I'm not mistaken, McNabb at 6'2" had some issues with getting balls batted down during his time here.

Looking at their respective stat lines over the first two years, the amount of time they've turned the ball over, their QB rating are nearly the same, both play for horrible teams, it's just really difficult to say who's definitively a "project" and who isn't. So I'd go with the guy more physically promising, a year younger, and has shown some flashes of being a quality NFL quarterback.

I'd like to think some of what your concerned about could be fixed with better protection and giving the QB room to move around the pocket or rolling him out.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Both Bradford and McCoy have major issues holding onto the ball while in the pocket, but if I had to choose one over the other and put him behind the Redskins offensive line, it would be Sam Bradford.

Colt McCoy is 6'1" and Sam Bradford is 6'4", that would be a huge difference playing in the NFC East where you'd face some of the more prolific pass rushers twice a year. Rex at 6'1" has also had his share of batted down passes playing in the NFC East And if I'm not mistaken, McNabb at 6'2" had some issues with getting balls batted down during his time here.

Looking at their respective stat lines over the first two years, the amount of time they've turned the ball over, their QB rating are nearly the same, both play for horrible teams, it's just really difficult to say who's definitively a "project" and who isn't. So I'd go with the guy more physically promising, a year younger, and has shown some flashes of being a quality NFL quarterback.

You know, that's a really good argument. I'd still go McCoy, but this is very well stated 12th.

[Uncle Skins]

In both cases of Manning & Sanchez, if their former teams can't find uses or success with them then why would Our Washington Redskins? I'll consider them options only if the prices are negligible.

Don't come to a dead end with these guys & expect that Our Skins will just swoop in to take them for premium prices.


I'd only entertain talking trade for a 5th round pick and below.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skins

In both cases of Manning & Sanchez, if their former teams can't find uses or success with them then why would Our Washington Redskins? I'll consider them options only if the prices are negligible.

Don't come to a dead end with these guys & expect that Our Skins will just swoop in to take them for premium prices.


I'd only entertain talking trade for a 5th round pick and below.

I agree with you on the 5th round pick,however the skins and Shanahan have shown the league over and over again they will overpay to get what they want.What did Shanny give up to get Mcnabb? A second and a 4th I think.I can easily seeing them giving up a 1st rounder to get Sanchez,hopefully theyve gotten smarter and they wont but it wouldnt surprise me

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree with you on the 5th round pick,however the skins and Shanahan have shown the league over and over again they will overpay to get what they want.What did Shanny give up to get Mcnabb? A second and a 4th I think.I can easily seeing them giving up a 1st rounder to get Sanchez,hopefully theyve gotten smarter and they wont but it wouldnt surprise me

How is one example "over and over"? And how often have we traded a first round pick in recent years. Plus Kolb was traded for a 2nd and a young starting DB, and hadn't accomplished anything really. Ditto similar situations for Whitehurst and Schaub. The rules are different when it comes to QB. Though it seems the less you've accomplished as an NFL QB, the more valuable you are.

I personally wouldn't be against a 3rd and conditional 2013 for Sanchez. Draft someone like Harnish or Moore late to be your long term project. Keep Rex as the veteran backup, if he stays

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How is one example "over and over"? And how often have we traded a first round pick in recent years. Plus Kolb was traded for a 2nd and a young starting DB, and hadn't accomplished anything really. Ditto similar situations for Whitehurst and Schaub. The rules are different when it comes to QB. Though it seems the less you've accomplished as an NFL QB, the more valuable you are.

I personally wouldn't be against a 3rd and conditional 2013 for Sanchez. Draft someone like Harnish or Moore late to be your long term project. Keep Rex as the veteran backup, if he stays

I wasnt talking just draft picks,I'm talking about throwing big money at players too to get them here.The one example is just for Shanny,but the skins under Snyder have overpaid a number of free agents.My point being the skins will overpay to get what they want whether its draft picks or money

[WaldSkins]

The offenses Bradford and Sanchez are in are pretty weak from a coaching stand point. Some coaching from the Shannahan's would only improve there play.

[redskin29633]

I like Bradford, but must admit that he looks injury prone to me. I've seen tackles where his knees or ankles have been bent and twisted in ways that left me wondering if he could get up and continue. His rush awareness is such that you wonder if he is a serious injury waiting to happen. Seems a little bit like Rex in that rushers are on him before he realizes that he needs to react. Internal clock malfunctions frequently.

[Chico23231]

"According to ESPN Stats & Information, Sanchez entered the day having completed just 10 passes more than 20 yards down field and was 4-of-24 when targeting Santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress on deep passes."

piss poor

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

"According to ESPN Stats & Information, Sanchez entered the day having completed just 10 passes more than 20 yards down field and was 4-of-24 when targeting Santonio Holmes and Plaxico Burress on deep passes."

piss poor

Holmes and Burress need to take some of the responsability here,both of them have drop many a ball thrown by Sanchez,Jets are finding out why the Giants did'nt bring him back.....runs crappy routes and drops as many as he catchs

[TenandSix:Unacceptable]

Hell no to Sanchez.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I wasnt talking just draft picks,I'm talking about throwing big money at players too to get them here.The one example is just for Shanny,but the skins under Snyder have overpaid a number of free agents.My point being the skins will overpay to get what they want whether its draft picks or money

It's been different under Allen and Shanahan. They don't sell the farm for free agents and they don't get bent over in trades like Vinny was famous for.


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[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's been different under Allen and Shanahan. They don't sell the farm for free agents and they don't get bent over in trades like Vinny was famous for.


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It has been better,but look at the draft picks they gave up for an OLD qb.I sure feel we got bent over in the Mcnabb trade.If they really want Sanchez they would probably give up a first to get him