2012 redskins

skins89moss · 12-03-2011, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

I'll be the first to admit Landry was having an excellent season before he got injured in 2010. But for whatever reason he hasn't been the same player this season at all. Maybe it's because he's injured, but it's also his fault he's still dealing with that Achilles. How many players do you see get a serious injury like an Achilles and not get surgery on it?

And don't sit there and act like he didn't just do exactly what I said above last week in Seattle. He tried to lay the wood and that guy that plays for Seattle just bounced off him and gained an additional 10 yards. And that's not the first time that's happened. Add in the fact that he doesn't have a pick this season and you can say all you want about his impact, but the facts are showing it's just not there this season. Atogwe has been underwhelming too and that only magnifies the problem.

All that said, do I want him back next season? If I ran the team, I'd tell him to go do whatever he needs to do to be healthy next season, I'd give him a one year deal, and I'd let him know he's got one more chance to show this team he can be an elite player. Because we all know he will want to be paid like an elite player, but I'm not seeing the production to match it so far.

Its good you would tell Laundry that you would give him a 1 year deal if you were in charge. The thing is he is a free agent at the end of the season. So unless we franchise tag him or offer him a contract you wont be getting a 1 year deal from LaRon. It's no way he is going to risk a injury for a 1 year deal. Either we roll the dice and sign him to a long term deal or franchise tag him for trade bait. When LaRon is healthy he is a beast so we just have to keep our fingers cross that he will get healthy this off season and work out with our training staff. We need to keep our players and pay them instead of bring in more Adam Archelettas who are free agent busts.

GTripp0012 · 12-03-2011, 08:55 AM

Look, I think it says a lot about Landry's value that no one thinks he's been at his best this year or even particularly good, and yet he's been perhaps the only above average performer in our secondary this year. It also says a lot about Atogwe, Hall, and Wilson. Though I think in Josh Wilson's case, we got what was advertised.

Chico23231 · 12-03-2011, 11:31 AM

Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013

mooby · 12-03-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013

Now that's a better question. With Landry I am confident if he's healthy and willing to learn from his mistakes, he can easily be the player he's supposed to be. With D.Hall I'm not sure we want to pay him 6.8 mil for uneven play next season.

T.O.Killa · 12-03-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Now that's a better question. With Landry I am confident if he's healthy and willing to learn from his mistakes, he can easily be the player he's supposed to be. With D.Hall I'm not sure we want to pay him 6.8 mil for uneven play next season.

I know it looks like alot of money, but I think it is probably average CB money. I would consider him at least close to average.

tc2deuce · 12-03-2011, 01:01 PM

FREE AGENT TARGETS
Demetrius Bell OT, Ben Grubbs OG, Nick Hardwick C, EJ Henderson LB, Curtis Lofton LB, Brent Grimes CB or Brandon Carr CB, Marques Colston WR, or VJAX WR
DREAM SCENARIO-- (snatch up Brees to mentor Barkley )

Chico23231 · 12-03-2011, 01:05 PM

I would be favor to have D Hall return 1 more year, would like to see us draft a CB this year. When it comes to the draft this year ideally I would like to see us:

round 1: QB
2: CB
3: G/C
4: ILB
5: FS

I like the value/quality of rated prospects in each of those positions in those rounds as well.

SFREDSKIN · 12-03-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013

I hope he goes and they draft someone in the 2nd round to replace him. He's not worth the money he's getting paid.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-03-2011, 02:07 PM

Like I said if we don't go QB in rd 1 I want Morris Claiborne

Chico23231 · 12-03-2011, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Like I said if we don't go QB in rd 1 I want Morris Claiborne

either him, tackle from USC or Justin Blackmon

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-03-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

either him, tackle from USC or Justin Blackmon

Kalil is going top 3. I'd add Trent Richardson to that list.

T.O.Killa · 12-03-2011, 04:21 PM

Thank god we took Williams over Okung. I think Okung is hurt all the time. At least Williams play most games and is pretty good when he is in there.

Ruhskins · 12-03-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

I would be favor to have D Hall return 1 more year, would like to see us draft a CB this year. When it comes to the draft this year ideally I would like to see us:

round 1: QB
2: CB
3: G/C
4: ILB
5: FS

I like the value/quality of rated prospects in each of those positions in those rounds as well.

We may not have a 2nd rounder if we need to move up to get our QB. I would rather look at free agency to bolster our secondary. Although, needs in the secondary may shift depending on what happens to Landry and how much we can rely on Atogwe as a FS.

I still think that our defense would like much better if we had a complimentary offense.

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Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Thank god we took Williams over Okung. I think Okung is hurt all the time. At least Williams play most games and is pretty good when he is in there.

Most definitely. He's a good player, but he slowly becoming unreliable in terms of staying healthy.

GusFrerotte · 12-03-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS4ever

The Redskins will no doubt draft another running back. I'd be surprised if Torain doesn't end up on the team. But I think he's trade bait rather than the Redskins just releasing him.

Shoot McNabb just got released and his resume is a lot more impressive than Torain's. I don't see Torain getting too many looks bud.

GusFrerotte · 12-03-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

We may not have a 2nd rounder if we need to move up to get our QB. I would rather look at free agency to bolster our secondary. Although, needs in the secondary may shift depending on what happens to Landry and how much we can rely on Atogwe as a FS.

I still think that our defense would like much better if we had a complimentary offense.

Most definitely. He's a good player, but he slowly becoming unreliable in terms of staying healthy.

WE are a top 8 pick for sure, if not top 5. Not everyone is going to need a QB, and even if they did the QB class is very deep.

12-03-2011, 08:55 AM	#107
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: 2012 redskins Look, I think it says a lot about Landry's value that no one thinks he's been at his best this year or even particularly good, and yet he's been perhaps the only above average performer in our secondary this year. It also says a lot about Atogwe, Hall, and Wilson. Though I think in Josh Wilson's case, we got what was advertised. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-03-2011, 11:31 AM	#108
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,419	Re: 2012 redskins Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013 __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-03-2011, 01:01 PM	#111
tc2deuce Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 363	Re: 2012 redskins FREE AGENT TARGETS Demetrius Bell OT, Ben Grubbs OG, Nick Hardwick C, EJ Henderson LB, Curtis Lofton LB, Brent Grimes CB or Brandon Carr CB, Marques Colston WR, or VJAX WR DREAM SCENARIO-- (snatch up Brees to mentor Barkley )

12-03-2011, 01:05 PM	#112
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,419	Re: 2012 redskins I would be favor to have D Hall return 1 more year, would like to see us draft a CB this year. When it comes to the draft this year ideally I would like to see us: round 1: QB 2: CB 3: G/C 4: ILB 5: FS I like the value/quality of rated prospects in each of those positions in those rounds as well. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

12-03-2011, 02:07 PM	#114
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,165	Re: 2012 redskins Like I said if we don't go QB in rd 1 I want Morris Claiborne __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

12-03-2011, 04:21 PM	#117
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: 2012 redskins Thank god we took Williams over Okung. I think Okung is hurt all the time. At least Williams play most games and is pretty good when he is in there.

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