Rumor: Eagles and Rams Finalizing Trade Involving McNabb

[CultBrennan59]

Some one on here said that we'd be lucky to get a third rounder for Campbell, well that would have been true before Charlie Whitehurst got traded to seattle, but after that ridiculous trade for a guy whose never thrown a NFL pass, Jason is probably worth a second rounder now. And if this Mcnabb trade goes through, then expect us to get Bradford and expect Jason to be traded on the same day.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Some one on here said that we'd be lucky to get a third rounder for Campbell, well that would have been true before Charlie Whitehurst got traded to seattle, but after that ridiculous trade for a guy whose never thrown a NFL pass, Jason is probably worth a second rounder now. And if this Mcnabb trade goes through, then expect us to get Bradford and expect Jason to be traded on the same day.

Seahawks got off easy, in fact we I think of the maneuvering the Seahawks went with to get him I'm reminded of the Staples guy. Campbell is only worthy to carry the helmet of Whitehurst. You guys will rue the day Whitehurst was traded to the NFC. Come my children and join the Knights of Whitehurst.

Perfect Post for #5,000. Man who would have thought I would have ever lasted after my Andre Carter thread back in 2006.

[SBXVII]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I could have sworn there was a topic on how none of the most recent playoff/SB teams didn't have a top 1st round LT. and perhaps the same could be said of QB's but it amazes me how much people are playing on the fact that "we have to have a top 1st round LT." Especially with several considerations...

1- Shanahan gets equivilant level of play out of mid to late round OL talent.
2- The proto typical zone blocking LT's coming out of the draft are not seen as worthy of a 1st or 2nd round pick.
3- Originally I had heard Okung was not fit for a team utilizing zone blocking. Supposedly he had bad lateral movement and was more built for man-to-man blocking. Most recently some of these reports have softened.

Then theres the lets trade back for more picks theory...

1- Someone has to want to trade (unless as someone put it to me...we simply force another team to take the deal. ).
2- We are willing to except taking a player who's figured to go mid to late round zone blocker late in the first round.
3- Possibly willing to take lesser talent QB like JC and hope he can be developed possibly within a year if JC decides to leave.

[doughtydoubter]

Originally Posted by backrow

If this rumor is true, it certainly takes the luster, the sheen, and the brightness off of our Grossman signing!

wha? your trying to tell me that my sexy rexy jersey wont be picked up for thousands on ebay in a decade??

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Why would Philly trade one of the top QB's in the NFL with a proven track record for a high 2nd round pick? It just doesn't make sense.

How much longer will he be there? How long can they keep Kolb happy not starting?

Sometimes you move on.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Some one on here said that we'd be lucky to get a third rounder for Campbell, well that would have been true before Charlie Whitehurst got traded to seattle, but after that ridiculous trade for a guy whose never thrown a NFL pass, Jason is probably worth a second rounder now. And if this Mcnabb trade goes through, then expect us to get Bradford and expect Jason to be traded on the same day.

I doubt that, there's still excitement behind Whitehurst for whatever reason. There's no reason to be "excited" about Campbell. He's probably worth a mid-4th or later by now.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I could have sworn there was a topic on how none of the most recent playoff/SB teams didn't have a top 1st round LT. and perhaps the same could be said of QB's but it amazes me how much people are playing on the fact that "we have to have a top 1st round LT." Especially with several considerations...

1- Shanahan gets equivilant level of play out of mid to late round OL talent.
2- The proto typical zone blocking LT's coming out of the draft are not seen as worthy of a 1st or 2nd round pick.
3- Originally I had heard Okung was not fit for a team utilizing zone blocking. Supposedly he had bad lateral movement and was more built for man-to-man blocking. Most recently some of these reports have softened.

Then theres the lets trade back for more picks theory...

1- Someone has to want to trade (unless as someone put it to me...we simply force another team to take the deal. ).
2- We are willing to except taking a player who's figured to go mid to late round zone blocker late in the first round.
3- Possibly willing to take lesser talent QB like JC and hope he can be developed possibly within a year if JC decides to leave.

I'm sure that's the case w/ Indy. New Orleans original starter was hurt (IR?) so while i'm pretty sure he was a 1st rd pick it doesn't really count. Outside of that I think most playoff teams had/have 1st rd LTs.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

How much longer will he be there? How long can they keep Kolb happy not starting?

Sometimes you move on.

Exactly. As the saying goes, it's better to part with a player a year early than a year late. They get the first pick in the second round for a QB who turns 34 this year, and they have Kolb ready to take the reins. McNabb will be a good starter for maybe another 2 or 3 years, then he's done. I think this is a smart move by the Eagles. Andy Reid knows what he's doing. Kolb has shown he can play, and they still have Vick as well.

It will be interesting to see if we take Bradford, or just rob some team dying to trade up and grab him. There will be takers.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Exactly. As the saying goes, it's better to part with a player a year early than a year late. They get the first pick in the second round for a QB who turns 34 this year, and they have Kolb ready to take the reins. McNabb will be a good starter for maybe another 2 or 3 years, then he's done. I think this is a smart move by the Eagles. Andy Reid knows what he's doing. Kolb has shown he can play, and they still have Vick as well.

It will be interesting to see if we take Bradford, or just rob some team dying to trade up and grab him. There will be takers.

No doubt.. for those that say Campbell won't be here more than a year.. well he's got several years before he hits 34.. the Rams 2nd round pick would be great for them if they didn't think that they could get the Lombardi this year

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

No doubt.. for those that say Campbell won't be here more than a year.. well he's got several years before he hits 34.. the Rams 2nd round pick would be great for them if they didn't think that they could get the Lombardi this year

On a side note, if they get McNabb, Steven Jackson's fantasy value just blew up.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I could have sworn there was a topic on how none of the most recent playoff/SB teams didn't have a top 1st round LT. and perhaps the same could be said of QB's but it amazes me how much people are playing on the fact that "we have to have a top 1st round LT." Especially with several considerations...

1- Shanahan gets equivilant level of play out of mid to late round OL talent.
2- The proto typical zone blocking LT's coming out of the draft are not seen as worthy of a 1st or 2nd round pick.
3- Originally I had heard Okung was not fit for a team utilizing zone blocking. Supposedly he had bad lateral movement and was more built for man-to-man blocking. Most recently some of these reports have softened.

Then theres the lets trade back for more picks theory...

1- Someone has to want to trade (unless as someone put it to me...we simply force another team to take the deal. ).
2- We are willing to except taking a player who's figured to go mid to late round zone blocker late in the first round.
3- Possibly willing to take lesser talent QB like JC and hope he can be developed possibly within a year if JC decides to leave.

I keep seeing this like Shanahan doesn't need talent on the o-line. Why did he draft Ryan Clady in the first round? That would be pretty stupid for a guy that can get the same level of play from a mid to late rounder wouldn't it?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I keep seeing this like Shanahan doesn't need talent on the o-line. Why did he draft Ryan Clady in the first round? That would be pretty stupid for a guy that can get the same level of play from a mid to late rounder wouldn't it?

I stayed up and watched the "America's Game" of the 1998 Broncos season, and it was exciting to watch Shanahan coach up a bunch of 6th, 7th and UDFA's on that line as Terrell Davis ran for 2000 yds. I don't think the point is that you want to only have late rounders/UDFA's but more so, that as a coach, MS has shown the ability to get the most out of them. The show made me even more confident that whoever and however Shanahan brings in, he and his staff will get the most out of them, and we won't see a repeat of the 2008-2009 debacles.

I really recommend watching that NFL Channel video if you want to get excited about Shanahan's "upside".

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I stayed up and watched the "America's Game" of the 1998 Broncos season, and it was exciting to watch Shanahan coach up a bunch of 6th, 7th and UDFA's on that line as Terrell Davis ran for 2000 yds. I don't think the point is that you want to only have late rounders/UDFA's but more so, that as a coach, MS has shown the ability to get the most out of them. The show made me even more confident that whoever and however Shanahan brings in, he and his staff will get the most out of them, and we won't see a repeat of the 2008-2009 debacles.

I really recommend watching that NFL Channel video if you want to get excited about Shanahan's "upside".

I have no doubt that Shanahan gets the most out of his o-linemen, I don't see that as an excuse not to draft the best you can get. Apparently he felt the same way when he drafted Clady.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Seahawks got off easy, in fact we I think of the maneuvering the Seahawks went with to get him I'm reminded of the Staples guy. Campbell is only worthy to carry the helmet of Whitehurst. You guys will rue the day Whitehurst was traded to the NFC. Come my children and join the Knights of Whitehurst.

Perfect Post for #5,000. Man who would have thought I would have ever lasted after my Andre Carter thread back in 2006.

Congrats on your 5,000th Dirt! The Andre Carter thread of 06, let's bring that one back & see what it looks like now!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I have no doubt that Shanahan gets the most out of his o-linemen, I don't see that as an excuse not to draft the best you can get. Apparently he felt the same way when he drafted Clady.

I must be reading something wrong...... you say Shanahan drafted him, yet on Wiki it says he was drafted in 08. Shanahan was fired prior to the 08 draft, or am I incorrect?