Greg Blache needs to be held accountable!!

[hail_2_da_skins]

Blanche is definitely partially to blame for this unacceptable loss to the Lions. A so-called top defense does not allow the hapless Lions these types of long scoring drives. There is no excuse for not being able to get off the field when necessary. The Lions had long sustained drives and that cannot be explained. If you can't get off the field against the Lions, what about the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants...

1st QTR
99 yards, 12 plays, possession 5:50, 21 yd touchdown pass

2nd QTR
74 yards, 11 plays, possession 5:26, 39 yd field goal
86 yards, 18 plays, possession 6:53, 26 yd field goal

4th QTR
85 yards, 8 plays, possession 3:44, 2 yd touchdown run

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Send a message and start at the real top. Fire Vonny Cerrato for putting this team together. I vaguely remember him saying two years ago that he was accountable. Pay back is a bitch.

Not to mention that, by all accounts, Zorn was a Vinny hire. He made a strong push for the guy. Failure by Zorn is failure by Vinny, even apart from his personnel decisions.

[Crat92]

We need to tackle a helluva lot better!

[freddyg12]

I said several times this summer that I expected this defense to fall in statistical categories, give up more yards, but also get more turnovers. So far, everything but the turnovers is coming to fruition.

By the end of last year, this defense wasn't that good. I know they were often on the field a long time, but they couldn't stop below avg. offenses like Baltimore & S.F. when it counted. Statistically, last year they were overachievers, but there were several games when the team needed a big stop & they couldn't do it.

I think Blache has a decent fundamental system, but his blitzing is so obvious; watch the safefites & LBs before a play; 90% of the time whoever creeps up to the line is the one blitzing! There's no element of confusion that GW's defenses had, when QBs didn't know which guys were coming. That is coaching & is all on Blache.

Another problem in all 3 games this year; the D plays so much better in the 2nd half. It's as if it takes a whole half for them to warm up & make adjustments. They gave up 275 yards (terrible) in the 1st half yesterday, 106 (great) in the second. That's not a sign of a well coached, well prepared team.

I'm not saying Blache should be replaced, but I think it's obvious that at times like this the HC needs to assert himself on the DC & let him know that he's got to make some changes, even if they're minor. Can Zorn do that? I'm not sure.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Rogers has always struggled with the biggest, most physical of wide receivers, but Bryant Johnson now qualifies? Really?

Something has to be wrong with him. He's just not winning his jams at the line of scrimmage and even when he's running step for step down the field he's not in good position. He's not right.

How can we he jam someone when Blache has him 10 yards off the line of scrimmage?

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

I questioned whether the defense would take a step back after Greg Williams left. The first year not so much. Blache stuck with most of the schemes Greg Williams used and our defense played decent. Greg used to rush the CBs and the safeties. It seems like he is doing less of that this year. We go with older lineman over more talented youth. Our Dbs play 10 yards off the ball. We only rush 4 D lineman. We put Orakpo at LB where is he a liability in coverage instead of using him on the D line.

We aren't good at tackling. Our secondary scheme sucks and we get no pressure on the QB so it makes the job even harder for the secondary. Has Blache not realized that "The Orakpo Experiment" is not working. You only hear his name during the game when he lines up as a rushers. I just feel like Blache is stubborn and has moved away from the Greg Williams scheme because he has become full of himself.

Someone commented and said that Greg Blache said that sacks are overrated. That tells of him being so full of himself that he thinks his schemes are better than common sense when it comes to football. At one point in the first half the Lions were 9-11 on 3rd down conversions. We can stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We have our issues on offense. But our D has underachieved by a long shot.

If your players are having problems tackling you make them work on it. If what you are doing is not working adapt and try something else. You can't keep doing the same things and expect different results. We go out and sign AH, draft Orakpo and pay D Hall all this money and our defense gets worse. Go figure!!

Can't blame Blache for the FO paying out gobs of dough for our FAs. Can't blame Blache when our DBs are getting beat. The poor bastard only can be effective as the talent on the field allows him to be. As for Zorn, the guy can't coach period. Lousy playcalling for sure, but let's face it, the WCO is archaic, a fossil, from the 80's-early 90's. Not only that but he is working with Gibbs personnel that was brought in here for a long ball air game. Can't put square blocks into round holes. Thomas, Kelly, and even Mitchell will be wastes of space with the WCO. Could you imagine this trio if Gibbs offense or even Norv's was still in place? Bottom line is I agree with Matty, everyone is at fault, even JC. Sure the system sucks, but players still need to execute. JC had a big game, but watching him in person, he was a lot less poised than Stafford, still threw dangerous passes(lucky he didn't get picked 3-4 times), and looked like he was out of it at times(3-4 lost snaps). All in all the team from top to bottom is mediocre and I hate to say it although I laughed at the Sporting News preseason 4-12 prediction, unless the ship is righted soon that is going to be a reality!!!!

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Blanche is definitely partially to blame for this unacceptable loss to the Lions. A so-called top defense does not allow the hapless Lions these types of long scoring drives. There is no excuse for not being able to get off the field when necessary. The Lions had long sustained drives and that cannot be explained. If you can't get off the field against the Lions, what about the Cowboys, Eagles, Giants...

1st QTR
99 yards, 12 plays, possession 5:50, 21 yd touchdown pass

2nd QTR
74 yards, 11 plays, possession 5:26, 39 yd field goal
86 yards, 18 plays, possession 6:53, 26 yd field goal

4th QTR
85 yards, 8 plays, possession 3:44, 2 yd touchdown run

I think the first drive ending in a touchdown needs an asterisk because the defense had stopped them.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Our corners played well. Look at how long Stafford had to throw on so many plays, including his 21 yrd. run. The coverage on the td was tight too. Sure, they got beat on some plays but they held C. Johnson under 50 yards. We need a pass rush!

Well, the one thing that Blache's scheme did well yesterday was that it marginalized Calvin Johnson, who is their best weapon. But he also gambled that his run defense could make the Lions force Stafford to put it up, and he lost that one badly.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I think the first drive ending in a touchdown needs an asterisk because the defense had stopped them.

Pretty sure we didn't stop anyone yesterday.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

You are assuming as Redskins have for the last decade, that we have quality talent instead of over paid players. That is a big assumption. Good players make good plays. Good players stop receivers. Good players don't play 10 yards off because they are afraid they will get beat. Good players make tackles.

Does a coach just implement scheme? Should they teach technique? Do they just draw up X's and O's and say go out there and execute. No you put your players in a position to suceed. My comment was this. A good coach makes average players better. Makes a good player excel. You know your players weaknesses and put them in a posiiton where they are not exploited. IF they aren't tackling well you teach them the proper technique. If they are a defensive lineman you teach them moves to get pass offensive lineman. You try to make your players better. They still have to go out there and make plays. I am not saying that all our players are pro bowl caliber. Coach Gibbs used to make players better. That's why he won 3 superbowls. That's what you do when you are a good coach on defense or otherwise. If you are a coach you tell your players to play closer to the line of scrimmage. Or do the players call all the shots on defense and call their own plays and coach themselves on how to get better? If so why do we need Blache?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, the one thing that Blache's scheme did well yesterday was that it marginalized Calvin Johnson, who is their best weapon. But he also gambled that his run defense could make the Lions force Stafford to put it up, and he lost that one badly.

GT, what's your take on the difference between halves, 1st half: Lions 275 yrs, 2nd half: 106. 3rd downs: 1st half: 8 of 10 ? 2nd: 1 of 6

Was there any significant adjustment, did they play harder?

This is a trend so far this year.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

GT, what's your take on the difference between halves, 1st half: Lions 275 yrs, 2nd half: 106. 3rd downs: 1st half: 8 of 10 ? 2nd: 1 of 6

Was there any significant adjustment, did they play harder?

This is a trend so far this year.

Kevin Smith's injury made the third downs a much longer proposition. That was the biggest difference.

Redskins got to Stafford a few times in the second half, virtually nothing on him all of the first half.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Kevin Smith's injury made the third downs a much longer proposition. That was the biggest difference.

Redskins got to Stafford a few times in the second half, virtually nothing on him all of the first half.

Smith definitely found cutback lanes that Morris & the rook didn't. When you do your game review I'll be interested to see if you notice any adjustments. I thought it looked like they were just bringing Horton & Doughty up more, but overall it just seems like they play harder in the 2nd half after they've dug a whole for themselves.

[firstdown]

Not sure why blach is taking so much heat. After 3 games our O has scored 30 points which is 10 per game. 14 of those points came after the game was pretty much over and teams where playing prevent which with our O does not make much sense. So if we take off those 14 points we have scored 16 points at a little over 5 per game. That works out to be a little over 1 point per qtr. but some how our problem are on Blach.

[dmvskinzfan08]

I definitely agree that if Kevin Smith didn't get hurt the game would not have been as close because they would have chewed up more of the time on the clock when they were already dominating the clock.