The Sam Howell Thread

[Meks]

Ahhh the howell hate is hilarious.. if not here, somewhere, he'll get a chance with a real supporting cast of o-line and coaches.. til then no judgement from me. I still think he'll be just fine if his mentality isn't completely shot from this dumpster fire.

[skinsfaninok]

Is Sam doesn’t play another down this season (probably won’t)

His final stats will be 3624 yards
19 TDS
17 INTs
4 Fumbles
2 lost

He leads the league in total TOs and Sacks taken.

There was some awesome flashes this season from Sam, the two eagles games he was ridiculously good.

The Bills game (5 TOs)
Was ridiculously bad.

I still think with a good OL and Run game he could be a Ryan Fitzpatrick type starter. His accuracy issues are very similar to Ryan’s were and some decisions he makes.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Is Sam doesn’t play another down this season (probably won’t)

His final stats will be 3624 yards
19 TDS
17 INTs
4 Fumbles
2 lost

He leads the league in total TOs and Sacks taken.

There was some awesome flashes this season from Sam, the two eagles games he was ridiculously good.

The Bills game (5 TOs)
Was ridiculously bad.

I still think with a good OL and Run game he could be a Ryan Fitzpatrick type starter. His accuracy issues are very similar to Ryan’s were and some decisions he makes.


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Went south when he started playing better defenses. He’s shown enough to continue to develop here and in a better more balanced system surrounded by actual talented players, I think he would be an asset.

Its insufferable to hear the Sam bashing from guys like Sheehan and other talking heads while ignoring not only a bad Oline, but below par talent like Logan Thomas who can’t block, second year dud Johan Dotson, Brian Robinson mediocre, Antonio Gibson who failed to live up to his potential, bust Dyami Brown, etc.

When we talk about complete rebuild, include these positions as well.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Went south when he started playing better defenses. He’s shown enough to continue to develop here and in a better more balanced system surrounded by actual talented players, I think he would be an asset.

Its insufferable to hear the Sam bashing from guys like Sheehan and other talking heads while ignoring not only a bad Oline, but below par talent like Logan Thomas who can’t block, second year dud Johan Dotson, Brian Robinson mediocre, Antonio Gibson who failed to live up to his potential, bust Dyami Brown, etc.

When we talk about complete rebuild, include these positions as well.

Agreed. It's what the kids call "cringe" as fuck.

[sdskinsfan2001]

The good thing about Howell is he's basically free for 2 more years. Drafting another QB doesn't mean he's gone. He's a 5th rounder. That is where you draft back-up type QB's.

He can win the position w/ new coaches or be a good back-up. I think he's definitely 1 of the best 64 QBs in the league, so we have a spot for him.

[Are Jay]

Going to order a Caleb jersey.

[SFREDSKIN]

Too funny, so much for Brissett starting on Sunday:

Brissett lands on injury report with a tight hammy. Very interesting if they have to go back to Sam. Never good to land on injury report on a Friday.

Fuller, St.-Juste, Butler, Larsen, Leno all out for Sunday's game.

Jacoby Brissett was limited with a hamstring injury. He reported tightness after practice yesterday. Questionable for Sunday.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Last year Heinicke 'nudged' the Coaching staff to start Sam. Maybe this is Jacoby's subtle way of nudging...

Or he has no desire to play behind that O-line.

[rocnrik]

Caleb Williams under same circumstances would fail also ...

[jamf]

Dotson and McLaurin will both be over 1000 yards next year and the Oline will give up half the sacks all because Sam is no longer shitting the bed at QB.

I can't wait to hear Sam supporters talk about how much talent he has going into his 3rd rookie season and how he just needs a chance with 5 all pro linemen and 3 superstar WRs. Dude will end up on someone's practice squad next year and you guys will still make excuses for him, "He is shellshocked, EB ruined him".

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by jamf

Dotson and McLaurin will both be over 1000 yards next year and the Oline will give up half the sacks all because Sam is no longer shitting the bed at QB.

I can't wait to hear Sam supporters talk about how much talent he has going into his 3rd rookie season and how he just needs a chance with 5 all pro linemen and 3 superstar WRs. Dude will end up on someone's practice squad next year and you guys will still make excuses for him, "He is shellshocked, EB ruined him".

Dotson has turned into a literal ghost this year. Gotta get the ball to the outside WRs more, that's for sure.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by jamf

Dotson and McLaurin will both be over 1000 yards next year and the Oline will give up half the sacks all because Sam is no longer shitting the bed at QB.

I can't wait to hear Sam supporters talk about how much talent he has going into his 3rd rookie season and how he just needs a chance with 5 all pro linemen and 3 superstar WRs. Dude will end up on someone's practice squad next year and you guys will still make excuses for him, "He is shellshocked, EB ruined him".

I wouldn't be surprised if the new GM traded Jahan......he has not impressed.

[skinsfan69]

I 100% want Sam back next year. You got a young guy w/ some talent and keep developing him. Really hoping the new regime VALUES the QB position because Ron DID NOT. You have to think starter, vet back up and one guy developing.

With that said Sam needs to go back in the lab. He seems to not see the field very well, maybe he can't see over the defenders. Some short guys struggle with that although Brees never did. Sam has a long way to go but he has shown some really good stuff. Needs better coaching, better system and like I said, needs to keep developing. Maybe he is a really good back up in this league, nothing wrong w/ that. But I don't feel like you shut the door on him. That would be a mistake.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I 100% want Sam back next year. You got a young guy w/ some talent and keep developing him. Really hoping the new regime VALUES the QB position because Ron DID NOT. You have to think starter, vet back up and one guy developing.

With that said Sam needs to go back in the lab. He seems to not see the field very well, maybe he can't see over the defenders. Some short guys struggle with that although Brees never did. Sam has a long way to go but he has shown some really good stuff. Needs better coaching, better system and like I said, needs to keep developing. Maybe he is a really good back up in this league, nothing wrong w/ that. But I don't feel like you shut the door on him. That would be a mistake.

The only way you move him is if you draft 2 QB's this year and someone offers something higher than wear you drafted him. So a realistic trade probably wouldn't happen until after the draft, if at all. But otherwise, yeah, you definitely keep him on the roster next season.

Note - I would highly doubt that the new front office sees Fromm as a viable No. 2 QB. He will probably be gone. And Brissett will probably sign somewhere else with a better opportunity to start all season. Going to need to add at least 2 QB's this off-season, to add with Howell.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I am conflicted my 2 cents are that if we draft a QB bring in a solid vet for leadership and stability. Does Sam go back to QB3 then if the draft pick pans out? I know there are more teams that need a QB than there are QBs in the draft. If someone misses their guy perhaps we can get some draft capitol from someone for Sam. There is no way they release him on a rookie deal though that is just crazy talk