Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[5superbowls3wins]

Maybe they’re holding onto TW, because they know he’ll show once Bruce Allen is gone and Allen’s day are numbered?


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[VTSkins1961]

I used like TW but not now. Has no honor.. you signed a contract. honor it low life. Id trade him to some crappy team...

[Warthog]

The problem with BA playing tough and sending a “message”, is that it hurts the team in 2 ways:

1. The team needs either TW playing at LT or they need a First round draft pick to replace him. Right now the OL is a disaster and barely holding together. Since TW has proved that he will not play here, they need to trade him.

2. What message is BA sending other players on the Redskins, FA and their agents by playing tough with Allen? BA basic message is: “If he won’t play for us, he won’t play anywhere!!” This just confirms what the USA TODAY study on NFL GM’s said last year. Bruce Allen was voted LAST of the NFL’s GM’s for trustworthiness and preparation. Why come to a team where you can’t trust the GM? Why come to a team that would rather hold a petty grudge against a player than do what’s BEST for BOTH sides?

This holdout confirms what the NFL thinks of BA , Snyder and the Redskins franchise. Poorly run, chaotic, untrustworthy and a team that holds personal grudges. Why would a responsible FA come here? why would a homegrown player at the pro bowl level stay here? The answer is - they don’t. Scherff will leave. The only FA players that want to play for the Redskins is doing so in order to CASH IN on their previous playing ability. Most don’t play anywhere near their ability or hype. Mostly because BA and Snyder are poor judges of talent. Also, because this is just a way station in their FA career.

Let TW go while we can still get a very good draft pick for him!


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[sdskinsfan2001]

Didn't want a new thread and I picked his replacement 1st, so figured I would post it here:

3: R1P3 - OT ANDREW THOMAS - GEORGIA
67: R3P3 - TE JARED PINKNEY - VANDERBILT
109: R4P3 - LB JACOB PHILLIPS - LSU
142: R4P36 - OT YASIR DURANT - MISSOURI
149: R5P3 - CB TROY PRIDE JR. - NOTRE DAME
218: R7P3 - G DONELL STANLEY - SOUTH CAROLINA
219: R7P4 - S BRIAN COLE - MISSISSIPPI STATE

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Didn't want a new thread and I picked his replacement 1st, so figured I would post it here:

3: R1P3 - OT ANDREW THOMAS - GEORGIA
67: R3P3 - TE JARED PINKNEY - VANDERBILT
109: R4P3 - LB JACOB PHILLIPS - LSU
142: R4P36 - OT YASIR DURANT - MISSOURI
149: R5P3 - CB TROY PRIDE JR. - NOTRE DAME
218: R7P3 - G DONELL STANLEY - SOUTH CAROLINA
219: R7P4 - S BRIAN COLE - MISSISSIPPI STATE

I think the Redskins will end up at #2. I don't see them out finishing anybody but Miami. If there are lots of quarterbacks in the draft teams are high on I think I would trade down for multiple picks.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I think the Redskins will end up at #2. I don't see them out finishing anybody but Miami. If there are lots of quarterbacks in the draft teams are high on I think I would trade down for multiple picks.

I say we get #1 at 1-15. We lose to Miami and then Jay goes home

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I think the Redskins will end up at #2. I don't see them out finishing anybody but Miami. If there are lots of quarterbacks in the draft teams are high on I think I would trade down for multiple picks.

Good idea, they will need help almost everywhere. If they cannot get a first for Trent, then take a few high picks.

It is going to be a major rebuilding for a few years. Probably gone Norman, Reed, Davis, Keenum, McCoy, Peterson, Trent, Scherff, Kerrigan and more.

[mitch e]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I think the Redskins will end up at #2. I don't see them out finishing anybody but Miami. If there are lots of quarterbacks in the draft teams are high on I think I would trade down for multiple picks.

I don't see what difference it makes with our FO, they could screw up a wet dream!

[Warthog]

We could really use a 1st round draft pick for a TW trade..


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[CRedskinsRule]

With Diggs possibly unhappy in Minn. does anyone see a TW for Diggs swap possible?

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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

With Diggs possibly unhappy in Minn. does anyone see a TW for Diggs swap possible?

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I'd be on the phone right now for it

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

With Diggs possibly unhappy in Minn. does anyone see a TW for Diggs swap possible?

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According to an article I read in Hogshaven Trent Williams has an estimated wins added of less than 1. I imagine Diggs would be higer than that.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

According to an article I read in Hogshaven Trent Williams has an estimated wins added of less than 1. I imagine Diggs would be higer than that.

Lunacy. Keeping your quarterbacks upright and healthy is worth more than one win.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lunacy. Keeping your quarterbacks upright and healthy is worth more than one win.

I was surprised by the claim. I cannot find a nfl analytics similar to war in baseball. I imagine it exists. I will confess my research was somewhat limited. My internal dialogue went something like this “do I want to research nfl wins above replacement or visit the boobs thread?”

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

According to an article I read in Hogshaven Trent Williams has an estimated wins added of less than 1. I imagine Diggs would be higer than that.

That is probably because the Redskins have so many weaknesses. If you are headed for 1-15 replacing a scrub with a stud isn't going to do much unless that position is QB.