Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08

[skinsfan69]

People...the Giants are a better football team than we are. They are better where it counts most. In the trenches!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Are you serious?? I mean really?? Stand JC up next to any other NFL
QB out there right now and tell me how much better he is DURING GAME TIME, and screw the f*cking numbers. That first throw Portis was hanging there middle field wide open and he never even looked, not once did he turn his head.. he was just lookin for Moss.. never even turned left.. and I saw it all night long. Last drive Randal El was WIDE open and he chose to throw deep to moss and Randal El had a straight shot into th endzone. He didn't even look. If I were Zorn I'd be beating my head against a wall trying to figure out how the hell to bench his ass and now get fired.. what a f*cking mess!

OK.. now I'm going to bed.. God Help the Skins!

I'm sorry but you can't just pin the fault on a single person. For everytime JC f'ed there was a missed block by the o-line, receivers dropping the ball, and plays being negated by penalties. Gamecalling wasn't that great either. Honestly the only people that did well and helped us not get blown out of this game was the Defense (gave up only 16 pts even with so many 3 and outs by the offense), Brooks punting (how many punts were inside the 20?), and Portis who ran well (and should have ran some more). So people stop trying to pin this on JUST Campbell, this is a team and as a team they all bear the blame.

[Bushead]

I just think the most frustrating thing wasn't Jason's play or the Defense or anything like that. It was those routes that were obviously short of the first down!

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Bushead

I just think the most frustrating thing wasn't Jason's play or the Defense or anything like that. It was those routes that were obviously short of the first down!

Right... well throw the damn ball where it is supposed to be and not always look for the check down, and maybe we wouldn't miss those first downs..

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm sorry but you can't just pin the fault on a single person. For everytime JC f'ed there was a missed block by the o-line, receivers dropping the ball, and plays being negated by penalties. Gamecalling wasn't that great either. Honestly the only people that did well and helped us not get blown out of this game was the Defense (gave up only 16 pts even with so many 3 and outs by the offense), Brooks punting (how many punts were inside the 20?), and Portis who ran well (and should have ran some more). So people stop trying to pin this on JUST Campbell, this is a team and as a team they all bear the blame.

QBs set the tone, they run the offense.. he does NOT do that AT ALL. He sits and wonders and looks.. and then he throws.. You need a QB to lead and make plays and BE YOUR MAN. He's a sorry damn excuse for a QB.. ....

I'm obvioulsy not happy.. actually I'm PISSED. BENCH HIS ASS!

[The Goat]

C'mon fellas, nobody can be irked about this game. We overachieved and kept the margin within ten in a game that should have been much closer to my prediction of 42-6. Simply put, we are team w/o a NFL caliber offense, which by necessity means our defense should get worn in most games and allow the opponent to run up the score in the 2nd half. That did not happen and so I don't see how any fan can honestly complain. WE KEPT THE SCOREBOARD RESPECTABLE!!!

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Right... well throw the damn ball where it is supposed to be and not always look for the check down, and maybe we wouldn't miss those first downs..

what......you guys are extreme he can throw that doesn't mean that the receivers is open.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

People...the Giants are a better football team than we are. They are better where it counts most. In the trenches!

And at the QB position, at WR, at head coach and at the secondary. They're NFL champs, and we're spinning our wheels - again.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm sorry but you can't just pin the fault on a single person. For everytime JC f'ed there was a missed block by the o-line, receivers dropping the ball, and plays being negated by penalties. Gamecalling wasn't that great either. Honestly the only people that did well and helped us not get blown out of this game was the Defense (gave up only 16 pts even with so many 3 and outs by the offense), Brooks punting (how many punts were inside the 20?), and Portis who ran well (and should have ran some more). So people stop trying to pin this on JUST Campbell, this is a team and as a team they all bear the blame.

Honestly the people that just blame JC don't know shit about football and it's typical knee jerk reaction. JC does deserve some blame cause he just doesn't seem to come off to his 2nd and 3rd wr yet. He doesn't seem to have good field vision yet. But he is going to need more time in this offense and everyone needs to be patient. He certainly doesn't have anyone like Plax. Burress to throw to. We have below average wr's and an average line. Plus why all the dink and dunk passes? WTF was that all about? Looked like the 06 offense to me.

As far as the defense, they stunk and Taylor either should not have been in there or he's simply not ready to play NFC East football. Both he and Carter were terrible tonight. And we really miss the presence of #21 and that position needs to be addressed next year. But regardless of how bad the defense played we only gave up 16 points on the road. This one is on the offense. Should have kept Al around for one more year!!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

And at the QB position, at WR, at head coach and at the secondary. They're NFL champs, and we're spinning our wheels - again.

I agree totally; however, I would argue the Giants are not a good football team this year. We made them look pretty efficient but @ week 16 I will be very surprised if NY has a winning record. Sure they will have a better record than Zorn and Co. but that simply means they are less shitty.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I agree totally; however, I would argue the Giants are not a good football team this year. We made them look pretty efficient but @ week 16 I will be very surprised if NY has a winning record. Sure they will have a better record than Zorn and Co. but that simply means they are less shitty.

I agree that the Giants won't tear it up. If they were a great football team, they would have beat us by 30 points or more, given the way we played. Our offense was pitiful.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

QBs set the tone, they run the offense.. he does NOT do that AT ALL. He sits and wonders and looks.. and then he throws.. You need a QB to lead and make plays and BE YOUR MAN. He's a sorry damn excuse for a QB.. ....

I'm obvioulsy not happy.. actually I'm PISSED. BENCH HIS ASS!

Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.

You mean never, right?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

And at the QB position, at WR, at head coach and at the secondary. They're NFL champs, and we're spinning our wheels - again.

Well when you have turnover like we do then sometimes it's going to show on the field. Right? Eli has been in one offense his whole career. He also has a stud in Plx. Burress and we just don't have that type of physical presence on the field. He made Eli look good on a couple throws. And while Eli is a better QB than JC he sure threw some terrible passes too.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

You mean never, right?

Pretty much.