Media Bias

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Great article I wish most of the posters on this board would read it and understand where Sullivan stands in our great political divide. But I bet most of them won't.

The media is tearing this country apart.

Read it.

Not a great article imo. Seems like Sullivan has a standard formula. Points out both sides having problems early on .. then spends the remaining 99% of the article focusing on painting the left as the ones to blame.

Rittenhouse was a vigilante right wing 17 year old who wanted confrontation and made sure he got a chance you use his gun and kill people.

Id argue having a 17 year old wanting to put himself in a situation where he could kill liberals is reflective of just how dangerous the violent rhetoric of the right and right wing media is to the impressionable, young and dumb.

Theres a lot of exploitable dumb in this country.

if you think left leaning media is the problem with Rittenhouse ... you might be knee deep in believing whatever narrative the far right is telling you to believe.

Rittenhouse is the product of right wing media.

17 year olds with AR 15s is the problem.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

An amazing article documenting the msm wrong on these big stories:

2016 election. Rittenhouse. Covington. Russian collusion. Vaccines. Bounties on US soldiers. Lab-leak theory. Jussie Smollett. The Pulse shooting. The Atlanta shootings. Hunter Biden laptop. Inflation. Steele Dossier.

The MSM got every single one wrong.

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/...s-collapse-650

When All The Media Narratives Collapse
In case after case, the US MSM just keeps getting it wrong.

Come in here and explain why the mainstream media got all these stories wrong and explain why you still believe anything they say?

And that is the rub chico ,no one here has ever said they believe everything the MSM says . You're full of shit .

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

And that is the rub chico ,no one here has ever said they believe everything the MSM says . You're full of shit .

Problem is we're all susceptible to media and propaganda. There are people in this forum bought into and still believe some of the media narratives that Sullivan pointed out.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Problem is we're all susceptible to media and propaganda. There are people in this forum bought into and still believe some of the media narratives that Sullivan pointed out.

That is assumption.

[Giantone]

chico , this is for you!


https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/15/media...ory/index.html

Alex Jones Loses Sandy Hook Families’ Lawsuits Over Conspiracy Theories

A Connecticut judge found InfoWars host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones liable by default in a defamation lawsuit brought by families of victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre.

Superior Court Judge Barbara Bellis said that Jones’ refusal to hand over documents and financial records rendered him liable after years of dodging court orders to surrender the papers.

“All the defendants have failed to fully and fairly comply with their discovery obligations,” Bellis said during a virtual hearing, according to CNN.

The Monday decision in the lawsuit brought by eight families comes weeks after a judge in Texas found Jones liable for damages in three other cases brought by the parents of victims who were killed in the 2012 mass shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, that claimed the lives of 20 first-graders and six educators. The gunman, 20-year-old Adam Lanza, turned the gun on himself after the massacre.

On his show, Jones had portrayed the mass shooting as a “false flag” operation involving “crisis actors” seeking to boost gun control measures and failed to back up the bogus assertions.

Alex Jones’ Last Ditch Defense in Sandy Hook Lawsuit: Depose Hillary Clinton

After making the false claims, Jones repeatedly ignored court orders to provide evidence in the cases against him brought by the families of victims from the massacre who have accused Jones of enriching himself by spewing lies about the shooting.

In an effort to demonstrate the alleged link between Jones’ profits and his conspiracy theories about the shooting, lawyers for Sandy Hook families had requested detailed financial records and analytics that they said Jones ducked for more than two years.

Bellis concluded on Monday that Jones’ attorneys had provided only “sanitized, inaccurate” financial records and had repeatedly disregarded her rulings to supply the parents’ lawyers with more complete data, according to the Hartford Courant.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

That is assumption.

????

I can name names of people in this forum who buy into a couple of the examples Sullivan pointed out (certainly his CRT example).

[sdskinsfan2001]

[punch it in]

Think you have me confused with Nonniey. Im not claiming to be an expert on CRT. Just pointing out what the right has done to it. A million articles anyone here can read on that. I’ve posted more than one.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Think you have me confused with Nonniey. Im not claiming to be an expert on CRT. Just what the right has done to it. A million articles anyone here can read on that. I’ve posted more than one.

That's the problem with the internet. It's huge. Well, it's a blessing and a curse. Anyone can find articles to support their position on any topic. I'm sure there are a million articles that people on the right can use too.

I don't have kids and if I did, they sure as hell wouldn't go to public schools. And that was true long before CRT was a blip on the radar. So I don't know much about it 1 way or another. Hence why I never join in on the arguments about it.

Really, I just wanted to use spiderman meme lol.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

That's the problem with the internet. It's huge. Well, it's a blessing and a curse. Anyone can find articles to support their position on any topic. I'm sure there are a million articles that people on the right can use too.

I don't have kids and if I did, they sure as hell wouldn't go to public schools. And that was true long before CRT was a blip on the radar. So I don't know much about it 1 way or another. Hence why I never join in on the arguments about it.

Really, I just wanted to use spiderman meme lol.

Lol.

Yes we can read whatever we want but when the right comes out and says oh this goes against MLK’s teachings and its racist - but MLK’s own daughters and contemporaries say that is manufactured nonsense ill go with them. Again CRT was meant to get rid of racism not hide
it. This isn’t really debatable. It has become the rights new boogie man SD. It is laughable.

The left wants to teach and understand CRT to end racism. The right wants to turn it into something it is not so they can bark about another boogie man the left is unleashing on Americans. Let’s face it a big ole chunk of the rights base isn’t exactly fond of anything that makes whites look bad or helps black and brown people. It is fuckin comical.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol.

Yes we can read whatever we want but when the right comes out and says oh this goes against MLK’s teachings and its racist - but MLK’s own daughters and contemporaries say that is manufactured nonsense ill go with them. Again CRT was meant to get rid of racism not hide
it. This isn’t really debatable. It has become the rights new boogie man SD. It is laughable.

I wish there was a 5 year ban on using MLK in political arguments.

I'm not talking about what you just said. I mean literally in the country, no one can use him to try to prove a point. That guys name gets brought up so improperly all of the time.

It's like people think if you reference MLK you automatically win the argument no matter how stupid your argument is.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I wish there was a 5 year ban on using MLK in political arguments.

I'm not talking about what you just said. I mean literally in the country, no one can use him to try to prove a point. That guys name gets brought up so improperly all of the time.

It's like people think if you reference MLK you automatically win the argument no matter how stupid your argument is.

Totally agree. He has rolled over so many times in his grave he doesn’t know which way is up.

The cherry on the top has to be the far right using him as a front man for anti CRT bullshit though.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I wish there was a 5 year ban on using MLK in political arguments.

I'm not talking about what you just said. I mean literally in the country, no one can use him to try to prove a point. That guys name gets brought up so improperly all of the time.

It's like people think if you reference MLK you automatically win the argument no matter how stupid your argument is.

MLK is the strawman punch it trying to insert here

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol.

Yes we can read whatever we want but when the right comes out and says oh this goes against MLK’s teachings and its racist - but MLK’s own daughters and contemporaries say that is manufactured nonsense ill go with them. Again CRT was meant to get rid of racism not hide
it. This isn’t really debatable. It has become the rights new boogie man SD. It is laughable.

The left wants to teach and understand CRT to end racism. The right wants to turn it into something it is not so they can bark about another boogie man the left is unleashing on Americans. Let’s face it a big ole chunk of the rights base isn’t exactly fond of anything that makes whites look bad or helps black and brown people. It is fuckin comical.

Punch you are so full of shit. JFC. It’s not about teaching CRT or not teaching American history which includes black history. At least y’all have moved from CRT doesn’t exist. That lie wasn’t working out I guess.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Punch you are so full of shit. JFC. It’s not about teaching CRT or not teaching American history which includes black history. At least y’all have moved from CRT doesn’t exist. That lie wasn’t working out I guess.

You are so confused and so far down the right rabbit hole I don’t even know how to respond. Lol. Angry too. The right has ya right where they wanted you. Angry and afraid of their new boogie man.

Oh and “ so full of shit” is a personal attack. Is anyone gonna scold Chico for this? Anyone?

I mean it isn’t like someone called him a Trumper which would be equally mean.