The Sam Howell Thread

punch it in · 12-20-2023, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

While the season has been a disaster I don't think it's fair to say the coaches have quit. EB especially wants to put good tape out there with the offense for whatever his next opportunity is.

Quit was a poor choice of words. I should have said failed.

BaltimoreSkins · 12-20-2023, 10:26 AM

I will confess I am not as high on Sam as I was at the beginning of the season but in the end my opinion is useless. I think next year we will have the first in over 25 years a GM to HC formula that the rest of the league has used. I trust they will have the film they need on Sam to make a decision that will set us on the right path.

davy · 12-20-2023, 11:31 AM

If I'm the new GM and I'm confident of turning this franchise around quickly with much better coaching, better use of players already here, some sensible FA pickups and a good draft. I'm asking myself, "Am I going to be picking this high again in the near future?".

If the answer to that is no, it becomes very, very difficult not to take one of the top 2/3 QBs.

MTK · 12-20-2023, 11:34 AM

I think Sam is definitely back next season, but as the starter? Nah. We'll draft someone or sign someone.

If someone told you back in August Sam was going to lead the league in INTs, pick sixes, and sacks, there's no way you'd say yeah, sign me up for some more of that.

skinsfaninok · 12-20-2023, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I think Sam is definitely back next season, but as the starter? Nah. We'll draft someone or sign someone.

If someone told you back in August Sam was going to lead the league in INTs, pick sixes, and sacks, there's no way you'd say yeah, sign me up for some more of that.

I didn’t realize he led the league in pick 6s… damn.

Yeah that’s brutal

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MTK · 12-20-2023, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I didn’t realize he led the league in pick 6s… damn.

Yeah that’s brutal

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He's thrown 4, Mac Jones and Bryce Young have thrown 3, bunch of other guys have thrown 2.

Meks · 12-20-2023, 12:21 PM

I personally also think the scheme and playcalling is hot trash. All it does is attribute to Sam looking and playing worse.

MTK · 12-20-2023, 03:50 PM

I thought the long ball was supposed to be his strength? He seems to miss everyone deep.

rocnrik · 12-20-2023, 06:09 PM

Sam knows he has the last three games to shine .. if he doesn't then it's his loss because the new regime will pick a QB .. To me Sam looks like he is "shell shocked "and is in panic mode .. I guess all the sacks and picks can take its toll .. I don't see him as the answer unless he shows a lot in the next 3 weeks ..

Chief X_Phackter · 12-20-2023, 06:27 PM

I don't know if I'm buying the whole shell shocked thing. He gets sacked a lot, that's who he is. That's who he has been for years.

skinsfan69 · 12-20-2023, 06:32 PM

If Sam was a first round rookie I wonder how the conversation would be going? We would not be ready to give up on him. Yet because Sam is short by NFL standards, and he's a 5th rounder, everyone has mostly mailed it in.

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-20-2023, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If Sam was a first round rookie I wonder how the conversation would be going? We would not be ready to give up on him. Yet because Sam is short by NFL standards, and he's a 5th rounder, everyone has mostly mailed it in.

If we were picking 12th, it would be a moot point. He would get another shot. But we're heading towards a top-5 pick (although we might fuck this up against the Jests), and that's QB country. Especially w/ a new GM/HC that didn't pick Howell.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-25-2023, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If Sam was a first round rookie I wonder how the conversation would be going? We would not be ready to give up on him. Yet because Sam is short by NFL standards, and he's a 5th rounder, everyone has mostly mailed it in.

Josh Rosen was a rookie and they moved on from him after 1 year as they should have

jamf · 12-20-2023, 07:30 PM

We are here to win games not give people opportunities to grow their careers.

Dwayne Haskins was a first rounder and tall but he shit the bed so he had to go.
Russ Wilson is short and a late round pick but he won early and often so he got paid.

How about we get players that play well for once?

rocnrik · 12-20-2023, 10:04 PM

Jamf .. I hear you but I'm not sure we have had the coaches to get the best out of ANY of our players .. I find it hard to believe our talent is as bad as the team looks ... to me it starts at the top .. What scares me most about our top pick is look at San Fran ( no dispute they are a well run organization.. yet they whiffed on Trey Lance .. if we whiff on another top 5 pick then it sets us back years .. there will be 2 QBs picked before us .. so we are looking at a reach at pick 4 instead of picking a sure fire lock in Harrison Jr or top Left tackle .. the VERY BEST talent evaluators are not very successful with this QB thing .. it's because outside the obvious top guy the rest are reaches .. if we pass on Harrison Jr and pick Daniels out of LSU and he fails then what then .. that's why everyone was hoping Sam could be the guy .. doesn't look like he will but no guarantees our top pick if QB will be ANY better .. I would be all in on trading our Number one pick to a team for a known QB ( Herbert for sure) .. he is who we should have taken anyway. But Chargers would never do that .. would they ??

12-20-2023, 10:26 AM	#2
BaltimoreSkins Pro Bowl Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Parkton, MD Posts: 5,533	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I will confess I am not as high on Sam as I was at the beginning of the season but in the end my opinion is useless. I think next year we will have the first in over 25 years a GM to HC formula that the rest of the league has used. I trust they will have the film they need on Sam to make a decision that will set us on the right path. __________________ Who does number 2 work for?

12-20-2023, 11:31 AM	#3
davy Impact Rookie Join Date: May 2004 Location: England Posts: 918	Re: The Sam Howell Thread If I'm the new GM and I'm confident of turning this franchise around quickly with much better coaching, better use of players already here, some sensible FA pickups and a good draft. I'm asking myself, "Am I going to be picking this high again in the near future?". If the answer to that is no, it becomes very, very difficult not to take one of the top 2/3 QBs. __________________ “Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.”

12-20-2023, 11:34 AM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I think Sam is definitely back next season, but as the starter? Nah. We'll draft someone or sign someone. If someone told you back in August Sam was going to lead the league in INTs, pick sixes, and sacks, there's no way you'd say yeah, sign me up for some more of that. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-20-2023, 12:21 PM	#7
Meks Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Jersey Age: 38 Posts: 5,413	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I personally also think the scheme and playcalling is hot trash. All it does is attribute to Sam looking and playing worse. __________________ R.I.P #21SEAN TAYLOR

12-20-2023, 03:50 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,427	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I thought the long ball was supposed to be his strength? He seems to miss everyone deep. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-20-2023, 06:09 PM	#9
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,589	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Sam knows he has the last three games to shine .. if he doesn't then it's his loss because the new regime will pick a QB .. To me Sam looks like he is "shell shocked "and is in panic mode .. I guess all the sacks and picks can take its toll .. I don't see him as the answer unless he shows a lot in the next 3 weeks ..

12-20-2023, 06:27 PM	#10
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,470	Re: The Sam Howell Thread I don't know if I'm buying the whole shell shocked thing. He gets sacked a lot, that's who he is. That's who he has been for years.

12-20-2023, 06:32 PM	#11
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,143	Re: The Sam Howell Thread If Sam was a first round rookie I wonder how the conversation would be going? We would not be ready to give up on him. Yet because Sam is short by NFL standards, and he's a 5th rounder, everyone has mostly mailed it in.

12-20-2023, 07:30 PM	#14
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,183	Re: The Sam Howell Thread We are here to win games not give people opportunities to grow their careers. Dwayne Haskins was a first rounder and tall but he shit the bed so he had to go. Russ Wilson is short and a late round pick but he won early and often so he got paid. How about we get players that play well for once?

12-20-2023, 10:04 PM	#15
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,589	Re: The Sam Howell Thread Jamf .. I hear you but I'm not sure we have had the coaches to get the best out of ANY of our players .. I find it hard to believe our talent is as bad as the team looks ... to me it starts at the top .. What scares me most about our top pick is look at San Fran ( no dispute they are a well run organization.. yet they whiffed on Trey Lance .. if we whiff on another top 5 pick then it sets us back years .. there will be 2 QBs picked before us .. so we are looking at a reach at pick 4 instead of picking a sure fire lock in Harrison Jr or top Left tackle .. the VERY BEST talent evaluators are not very successful with this QB thing .. it's because outside the obvious top guy the rest are reaches .. if we pass on Harrison Jr and pick Daniels out of LSU and he fails then what then .. that's why everyone was hoping Sam could be the guy .. doesn't look like he will but no guarantees our top pick if QB will be ANY better .. I would be all in on trading our Number one pick to a team for a known QB ( Herbert for sure) .. he is who we should have taken anyway. But Chargers would never do that .. would they ??

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