The Wilson Blueprint

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Just an FYI, Winston plays from under center too. They could sit him and let KC play until he's ready. If I were to bet on it I would say they don't make a move, but stranger things have happened. You also have to remember that Gruden didn't draft either QB.

Winston isn't Gruden's type of QB to begin with(neither is RGIII really). Besides, they aren't going to let a 1st round QB sit on the bench a couple years to progress. The owner and GM will most likely see to that because there will be extreme pressure to play him. Gruden is going to want a talent QB that's already polished enough to step in much like Kirk could. (without the turnovers though) Coaches are under extreme pressure to win. It's hard to win when you are working with raw talent that's learning stuff he should have learned during his 4 years during college. That's why I would never draft a spread offense QB unless he's sitting 2-3 years.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Are we really having a discussion about Jameis Winston. That guy is going to be in trouble and a bust.

Please move on to fixing the defense and the Oline. You fix those are we have the playmakers to kill it on offense. Griffin included. You want to draft a late round QB to take over Captain Turnover spot go for it. Dont talk to me about Winston though unless you want to create a media firestorm all over again and have the player burned to the ground once he makes his trademark idiotic mistakes. Hide the crab cakes in Baltimore Winston is coming!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Are we really having a discussion about Jameis Winston. That guy is going to be in trouble and a bust.

Please move on to fixing the defense and the Oline. You fix those are we have the playmakers to kill it on offense. Griffin included. You want to draft a late round QB to take over Captain Turnover spot go for it. Dont talk to me about Winston though unless you want to create a media firestorm all over again and have the player burned to the ground once he makes his trademark idiotic mistakes. Hide the crab cakes in Baltimore Winston is coming!

We're 1-5 and going nowhere except to a top 5 pick. Time to talk draft and we're not even at the halfway point!!!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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I agree, he's just too immature. Can't imagine how he's going to act once he gets cash in his pocket. But if he didn't have off the field issues, and had the maturity of RG3 or Luck, it would w/out question have to be considered.

Yeah, I agree. On talent alone Jameis is da bomb. But factor in his psyche and there is no way in heck you spend a high pick on him and hand him lots of cash.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If they draft Winston, RG3 would be traded. Let's say Buffalo or the Jets gives their 1st rounder and a legit o-linemen? That would give the Skins two high draft picks and a starter. They'd have to think hard about something like that of it presented itself. Don't think it will happen as RG3 probably has little trade value.

Winston already does one thing better than RG3 does. He throws the ball before guys come out of their breaks. He also plays from under center. Winston would be be a huge risk, maybe too much risk, but he looks very ready for the NFL game.

if the redskins draft winston i will literally stop being a redskins fan. it wouldnt even be a hard choice. no way i could root for that guy.

RG3 will be the man.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If they draft Winston, RG3 would be traded. Let's say Buffalo or the Jets gives their 1st rounder and a legit o-linemen? That would give the Skins two high draft picks and a starter. They'd have to think hard about something like that of it presented itself. Don't think it will happen as RG3 probably has little trade value.

Winston already does one thing better than RG3 does. He throws the ball before guys come out of their breaks. He also plays from under center. Winston would be be a huge risk, maybe too much risk, but he looks very ready for the NFL game.

I like your thinking, but I seriously doubt Buffalo or the NY Jets would trade a 1st rounder AND a legit 0-lineman for RGIII. I'm doubting RGIII would command a first round pick right now. Maybe toward the end of the season, if he gets back in there and plays really well. But then again, if he gets back in there and plays really well, why trade him?

Also, do we know that Winston is reading defenses and making that committed throw before his receivers are coming out of their breaks, or is he simply throwing to the designed destination no matter what? It's kind of hard to tell on the collegiate level sometimes. Anyway, even if Winston has all the tools and smarts of a Joe Montana/Tom Brady/Drew Brees/Warren Moon.....he's a HUGE risk for off the field trouble and the Redskins have enough issues as it is.

[mlmdub130]

Seriously? We are discussing drafting Winston possibilities? Wtf? No chance that happens. RG is our guy, just need to give him some time. I have a feeling he is going to finish this season strong giving us some positivity in a very bleak year so far.

And just a side note, for all the talk about how Winston is some huge off the field risk, I don't buy it. Everyone was screaming from the hill tops about how risky Cam Newton was going to be and that seems to have been blown way out of proportion. From everything I've seen of Winston on the field, the kid can play, and I think he will hold his own in the NFL.

[MTK]

lol @ drafting another QB

[donofriose]

The skins should trade 3 first round picks with Jacksonville or Oakland to make sure they get that number one pick.

[mredskins]

At this point ride the RGIII bus unti lthe wheels completely fall off or hopefully stay o nand spin. In the meantime build a team around him OL and secondary. If RG3 fails then at the very least you have a strong team to build around your new QB.

RG3 is cheap at this point so money that would go to a veteran QB can be better spent on true areas of need. At this point wasting a draft pick or FA ($) on a QB is foolish.

[WillH]

Maybe we can just use FA to address our other needs. We have all our picks this year right, and will likely have high picks. Why not trade down and draft 3 QB's in the first couple rounds and have them battle it out for the starting job?

lol

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

Seriously? We are discussing drafting Winston possibilities? Wtf? No chance that happens. RG is our guy, just need to give him some time. I have a feeling he is going to finish this season strong giving us some positivity in a very bleak year so far.

And just a side note, for all the talk about how Winston is some huge off the field risk, I don't buy it. Everyone was screaming from the hill tops about how risky Cam Newton was going to be and that seems to have been blown way out of proportion. From everything I've seen of Winston on the field, the kid can play, and I think he will hold his own in the NFL.

Newton was deemed a risk b/c he was flamboyant and questions existed as to his ability to be "pro-ready" day 1.

Winston is a risk b/c he is an accused rapist, thief and general head case. Big difference.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

lol @ drafting another QB

This.

[skinsguy]

Just to clarify, what I meant by liking how skinsfan69 thinks is the mere fact of being able to trade a player for draft picks and accumulate multiple high round picks to help fill out the roster, all the while drafting a guy who appears to fill the position of said traded player just fine.

Obviously though, I don't agree for a second that trading Robert Griffin III is even remotely something the Redskins should do. To me, he's shown flashes of being a franchise quarterback, but he has to do that on a consistent basis and most importantly, stay healthy. I don't really understand the suicide dives off the RGIII bandwagon, but I understand that until he plays a full season, there's always going to be some room for concern.

But if anything, Cousins has solidified my fanatic following of one Robert Griffin III. I like Cousins and think both him and Robert are high quality character guys, and he's someone you still would like to have on your team in a backup role, but we can clearly see Cousins is not the answer. And what keeps RGIII from being the answer won't be because of his play, but his health. I expect Robert to come in and play well. But I'm very concerned about him staying healthy. Which goes back to what I've been repeating over and over again - improve that offensive line, and that will fix a lot of problems.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Newton was deemed a risk b/c he was flamboyant and questions existed as to his ability to be "pro-ready" day 1.

Winston is a risk b/c he is an accused rapist, thief and general head case. Big difference.

I thought Newton was a risk partly because he stole laptops at Florida or some such mess.