John Beck Era Begins

firstdown · 10-19-2011, 05:33 PM

I wonder if Rex will drop the clip board.

JoeRedskin · 10-19-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I wonder if Rex will drop the clip board.

More likely he will try to toss it to Kyle and it will be intercepted.

Dirtbag59 · 10-19-2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

More likely he will try to toss it to Kyle and it will be intercepted.

To bad Los isn't here. That would have made for a great setup to continue this joke.

SBXVII · 10-19-2011, 05:53 PM

Yay.

I'm just as glad as the rest of you so see what we got in Beck. All summer long it was kinda implied Beck would start and when Rex got the nod I was just as let down and confused as the rest of you. But ... there was a reason Rex got the nod and having said that I really hope Beck does not let us down.

In no way am I implying Rex is the best thing since sliced bread but what makes him a turd? No one really explained that well yesterday other then to say...."your missing the point." I wasn't. He can't run to save his life. He doesn't have a very strong arm to throw very deep. I get it. But if we are basing this off his INT's over 4 starts this year? his INT's match up with the best. Maybe Beck comes in and can score more points some how, good. But I'm more worried it's not the QB play so much as the WR not making plays.

NYCskinfan82 · 10-19-2011, 05:56 PM

This will let us know if the QB we draft next year will start right away or sit for a year or two. Go Beck.

SBXVII · 10-19-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

This will let us know if the QB we draft next year will start right away or sit for a year or two. Go Beck.

Whoever we bring in as QB for the 1st round needs to start. Neither Beck nor Grossman are franchise QB's. I think the coaching staff and fans know there is a drastic need for a better QB on this team.

Dirtbag59 · 10-19-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

This will let us know if the QB we draft next year will start right away or sit for a year or two. Go Beck.

Need to give it at least a couple games. Rex was a sure fire pro bowler after the Giants game. Consistency is key.

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

Whoever we bring in as QB for the 1st round needs to start. Neither Beck nor Grossman are franchise QB's. I think the coaching staff and fans know there is a drastic need for a better QB on this team.

Even if you throw in Barkley and Jones I still don't see a rookie QB not named Luck that would be able to run the offense in 2012 better then Beck or Grossman (or Leinart for that matter).

SOUL-SKINS · 10-19-2011, 06:09 PM

Question.....I don't follow college football all that much. So my question is what qb coming out of college in next years draft fits shannys style best? Jones, Barkley, Luck??.... Or someone else I don't know about.

skinsfaninok · 10-19-2011, 06:12 PM

Depends on which system? KS or MS lol luck fits best but no way we get him so I'd go with someone like Barkley or Moore

Dirtbag59 · 10-19-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

Question.....I don't follow college football all that much. So my question is what qb coming out of college in next years draft fits shannys style best? Jones, Barkley, Luck??.... Or someone else I don't know about.

Luck fits everyone's system. Jones is comparable physically to Luck. Barkley kind of scares me when I hear comparisons to Mark Sanchez.

irish · 10-19-2011, 06:16 PM

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Bottom line. As Rex himself said, he had a chance to prove there was no doubt he should be the starter and didn't. He has been in the league longer than Beck. More experience, more knowledge of Kyle's system. This was his chance and he didn't take advantage. Now let's see if Beck does

What will make things really interesting in Skins QB-land is if Beck ends up posting better numbers than Rex but the team goes 1-4.

Dirtbag59 · 10-19-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

What will make things really interesting in Skins QB-land is if Beck ends up posting better numbers than Rex but the team goes 1-4.

As always the individual cog should be evaluated. I understand why a QB should get more leash before a benching due to the complexity of the position and the time and reps needed to implement a game plan but still. If Beck is playing well while the defense suddenly stops pulling it's weight then you don't punish Beck. That would have been like the Saints benching Brees during his record setting season where they went 7-9 due to poor defense (The year before they won the Super Bowl no less).

SirClintonPortis · 10-19-2011, 06:28 PM

You know, the whole experience vs. "upside" debate really is similar to Obama vs. McCain, except everyone wanted the experienced guy. Just sayin'.

irish · 10-19-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

As always the individual cog should be evaluated. I understand why a QB should get more leash before a benching due to the complexity of the position and the time and reps needed to implement a game plan but still. If Beck is playing well while the defense suddenly stops pulling it's weight then you don't punish Beck. That would have been like the Saints benching Brees during his record setting season where they went 7-9 due to poor defense (The year before they won the Super Bowl no less).

Of course you dont bench a QB for bad defensive play but if Beck has better numbers but the O still struggles to score points it will be interesting to see what happens. I think now that the change has been made, unless Beck is really terrible, the Skins have to stick with him for the rest of the year.

KI Skins Fan · 10-19-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Depends on which system? KS or MS lol luck fits best but no way we get him so I'd go with someone like Barkley or Moore

You live in Norman, OK and you didn't mention Landry. What's wrong with Landry?

10-19-2011, 05:33 PM	#91
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: John Beck Era Begins I wonder if Rex will drop the clip board.

10-19-2011, 05:53 PM	#94
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: John Beck Era Begins Yay. I'm just as glad as the rest of you so see what we got in Beck. All summer long it was kinda implied Beck would start and when Rex got the nod I was just as let down and confused as the rest of you. But ... there was a reason Rex got the nod and having said that I really hope Beck does not let us down. In no way am I implying Rex is the best thing since sliced bread but what makes him a turd? No one really explained that well yesterday other then to say...."your missing the point." I wasn't. He can't run to save his life. He doesn't have a very strong arm to throw very deep. I get it. But if we are basing this off his INT's over 4 starts this year? his INT's match up with the best. Maybe Beck comes in and can score more points some how, good. But I'm more worried it's not the QB play so much as the WR not making plays. Last edited by SBXVII; 10-19-2011 at 05:54 PM.

10-19-2011, 05:56 PM	#95
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 55 Posts: 3,803	Re: John Beck Era Begins This will let us know if the QB we draft next year will start right away or sit for a year or two. Go Beck.

10-19-2011, 06:09 PM	#98
SOUL-SKINS Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 896	Re: John Beck Era Begins Question.....I don't follow college football all that much. So my question is what qb coming out of college in next years draft fits shannys style best? Jones, Barkley, Luck??.... Or someone else I don't know about. __________________ TODD COLLINS WILL ALWAYS HOLD A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART

10-19-2011, 06:12 PM	#99
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,114	Re: John Beck Era Begins Depends on which system? KS or MS lol luck fits best but no way we get him so I'd go with someone like Barkley or Moore __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

10-19-2011, 06:28 PM	#103
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: John Beck Era Begins You know, the whole experience vs. "upside" debate really is similar to Obama vs. McCain, except everyone wanted the experienced guy. Just sayin'. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

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